Saturday, July 4, 2009

JESUS' CRUCIFIXION & RESURRECTION FACTS

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positron666 quoted: "John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

Notice how he ignores 'This commandment have I received of my Father' to base his claim Isa (pbuh) is God?

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Which words are clearer???
John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.

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"This commandment have I received of my Father."

Did "This Commandment or Law have I received of my Father" make Yeshua inferior than His Father??? No, the earlier words of Yeshua are crystal clear that He has His own POWER. For Yeshua to associate that God is His Father clearly identified Himself as equalled to God.
John 5:17  But Jesus said to them: My Father worketh until now, and I work.
John 5:18  And for this, the Jews sought the more to kill him, not only because he had broken the sabbath, but because he had said of GOD, that he was his Father, and had equalled himself with GOD.
[Murdock, Aramaic Translation]


Yeshua have to identify Himself that He is sent by His Father otherwise his people will be confused as there are 2 Gods. Yeshua came down from Heaven to proclaim works of His Father and not His own works.

These words of Yeshua confirm that He and His Father are of one will, one deeds and one Glory.

John 5:30  I CANNOT of the will of myself do any thing; but as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just; for I seek not my will, but the will of Him who sent me. [Etheridge]

1. JESUS has His own power (John 10:18) to empower his disciples. Luke 10:19 JESUS said: "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my Name shall they cast out devils

2. JESUS spoke in greater authority than Scribes and Moses. Mark 1:22 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes. Moses could not even spoke with authority and his brother Aaron was made a prophet for him. Yet Moses was made a God to Pharaoh by LORD GOD. JESUS was made GOD in similitude to MOSES. Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Deuteronomy 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, LIKE UNTO THEE, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. John 10:34 JESUS answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, "Ye are Gods."

3. JESUS had the Glory of God that is not given but eternal. John 17:5 And now glorify thou me, my Father, with thyself, in that glory which I HAD with Thee before the world was. Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my Name: and my GLORY will I NOT give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of His glory:


4. JESUS was not created but came through virgin birth; He is called The Son of God as He was conceived by the Holy Spirit of God and not in the similitude of Adam created from the dust of the ground. John 10:36 do ye say to him, whom the Father, hath sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said to you, I am the Son of God? Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, 'The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of 'The Son of GOD'."

5. JESUS shall return in His own power and great glory to rule the earth. Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in His Glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his Glory:


6. JESUS shall be the Chief Judge on the Day of Judgment. Mat 25:32 And before Him shall be gathered ALL NATIONS: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats Mat 25:41 Then shall HE say also unto them on the Left Hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into Everlasting Fire, prepared for the Devil and his Angels

7. JESUS is GOD as LORD Almighty called Him GOD just as LORD made Moses a GOD! Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. John 10:35 [JESUS said] If He called "them Gods", unto whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken

8. JESUS accepts worship from men and women. Mat 28:9 And lo, JESUS met them, and said to them: Hail, ye. And they came and clasped his feet, and worshipped him. Blind man healed by JESUS worshipped Him: John 9:38 And he said: My Lord, I believe: and he fell down, and worshipped him.

9. JESUS was sanctified by God and was set apart as holy and sinless. Only GOD is sinless and Holy. John 10:36 do ye say to him, whom the Father, hath sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said to you, I am the Son of God?

10. JESUS is GOD as He could forgive sins on earth which the Scribes testified that no man can, except God only! Mark 2:7 Who can forgive sins but GOD only? Mark 2:10 But that ye may know that the Son of Man hath POWER on earth to forgive sins

11. JESUS says His Father is GOD and equaled himself with GOD. John 5:17 But JESUS said to them: My Father worketh until now, and I work. John 5:18 And for this, the JEWS sought the more to kill him, not only because he had broken the Sabbath, but because he had said of God, that he was his Father, and had equalled himself with GOD.

12. JESUS did not deny to the charge for claiming Himself as God. Quoting the Law in John 10:34-35 was to defend himself and not to deny the charge. John 10:33 The JEWS answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a MAN, makest thyself GOD.



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Why did Jesus appear as a gardener if he was spirit? A spirit cannot die again, so nothing physical would harm him if he were spirit; he could walk where he pleased. John 20:15, Luke 24:16,31
Yet Jesus hid himself from danger. Luke 4:29-30, Luke 24:31

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Of course Yeshua came in the Flesh as a perfect man as those who did not confess so shall be labeled as anti-Christs.
1John 4:3  And every spirit which confesseth not that Jesus the Messiah hath come in the flesh, is not of God; but he is of the false Messiah, of whom ye have heard that he cometh, and now is he already in the world.

1Jn 4:15  Whoever confesseth Jesus to be the Son of God, God abideth in him, and he abideth in God.
1Jn 4:16  And we have believed and known the love, which God hath towards us: for God is love, and whoever abideth in love, abideth in God.

1Jn 5:10  Whoever believeth in the Son of God, hath this testimony in himself. And whoever believeth not God, hath made him a liar, by not believing the testimony which God hath testified concerning his Son.
1Jn 5:11  And this is the testimony, that God hath given to us life eternal, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12  Every one that taketh hold of the Son, taketh hold of life; and every one that taketh not hold of the Son, hath not life.
1Jn 5:13  These things have I written to you, that ye may know that ye have life eternal, ye who believe in the name of the Son of God.
1Jn 5:20  And we know that the Son of God hath come, and hath given us knowledge that we might know the True One; and that we might be in the True One, in his Son Jesus the Messiah; He is the true God, and the life eternal.


Yeshua did not appear as a gardener but it was the emotional Mary Magdalene who had mistaken Him even though the angel assured her that He was risen.

Mark 16:6  But he said to them: Be not affrighted. Ye are seeking Jesus the Nazarean, who was crucified. He is risen; he is not here. Behold the place where he was laid.
Mar 16:7  But go, tell his disciples and Cephas: Lo, he precedeth you into Galilee; there will ye see him, as he said to you.
Mar 16:8  And when they heard, they fled and left the sepulchre; for astonishment and trembling had seized them; and they said nothing to any one, for they were in fear.
Mar 16:9  And in the morning of the first day of the week, he arose; and he appeared first to Mary Magdalena, from whom he had cast out seven demons.  [Murdock]

Yeshua was called "O God" in Hebrew 1:8 before He came to the world in the manner of a man so that He can die for the sins of the mankind. He concealed His eternal Glory by the veil of His Flesh.

Heb 1:1  In many ways, and many forms, God anciently conversed with our fathers, by the prophets:
Heb 1:2  But in these latter days, he hath conversed with us, by his Son; whom he hath constituted heir of all things, and by whom he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3  who is the splendor of His GLORY, and the IMAGE of Himself, and upholdeth all by the Energy of His word; and by Himself he made a purgation of sins, and sat down on the Right Hand of the Majesty on High.
Heb 1:4  And he is altogether Superior to the Angels, as he hath also inherited a name which excelleth theirs.

Heb 1:5  For to which of the angels did God ever say, "Thou art my SON, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"
Heb 1:6  And again, when bringing the first begotten into the world, he said: "Let all the angels of God worship him."
Heb 1:7  But of the angels he thus said: Who made his angels a wind, and his ministers a flaming fire.
Heb 1:8  But of the Son he said: "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; a righteous sceptre is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Heb 2:7  Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honor, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Heb 2:8  Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
Heb 2:9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Heb 2:10  For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
Heb 2:11  For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
Heb 2:12  Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.


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Why would the tomb need to be opened if Jesus were resurrected in spirit?

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The entrance to the tomb was sealed by a huge stone and was heavily guarded by Roman soldiers (Matthew 27:62-66). The opening of the tomb is necessary to demonstrate that the glorious power of GOD is at work to scare off the soldiers who may hinder His disciples and apostles from witnessing the linen cloths which once covered the dead body of Yeshua.

The Shroud or linen cloth that covered the body of Yeshua is found today, speaks louder than the critics could possibly deny that He was not crucified. If this shroud was confiscated by the Roman soldiers and was destroyed, then the Christians would lose an important evidence of His crucifixion outside the Biblical account.

Now the scientific evidence of the shroud has been amazingly convincing that Yeshua was indeed crucified and died. All the blood stains on the shroud matches the description of injuries of Yeshua as narrated in the Gospel.


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Why would a spirit roll up the burial shroud or place aside the bindings? Luke 24:12, John 20:5

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Obviously you have misunderstood the message in the Gospel.

Now there are 2 pieces of linen cloths used for burial cloth according to the Jewish burial custom of the first century. A larger linen cloth or shroud measuring around 4.4 x 1.1m will cover from head to the feet of the dead man while the face cloth 84 x 53 cm or Sudarium will cover only the face and head.  Photo of Sudarium is found here http://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm


"Jewish tradition demands that if the face of a dead person was in any way disfigured, it should be covered with a cloth to avoid people seeing this unpleasant sight. This would certainly have been the case with Jesus, whose face was covered in blood from the injuries produced by the crown of thorns and swollen from falling and being struck.

It seems that the face cloth or sudarium was first used before the dead body was taken down from the cross. But it was not discarded when it was buried as the dead Lazarus had the linen face cloth covered his face as told in John 11:44. This fits in with what we learn from the gospel of Yeshua according to John, which tells us that the face cloth or napkin had been bound upon his head, but folded up and laid apart in one place as told in John 20:7.

The shroud laid in its original position undisturbed where the Body of Yeshua was once laid. It was the napkin that was detached from the shroud and folded up by itself. Now it was a miracle witnessed by John the Apostle who saw the burial 2 days earlier that the face cloth had bound the head of the dead Yeshua. John was amazed and recorded what he saw as the napkin became detached from the shroud and folded up by itself.

The Jewish custom for the napkin to be folded up properly and placed on the table means the man have not finished his meal and would return to the table.

So the spiritual significant for the folded up face cloth means that Yeshua would return to earth to fetch the born again Christians in the clouds (not on earth which would be destroyed by fire,) known as the Rapture! Some of the Christians who have not died shall be changed into the glorified or immortal body which will never die similar to the Body of Yeshua. The glorified body has flesh and bones and not a spirit; yet the glorified body can pass through physical wall and can become invisible like an angel.

Mat 22:30  For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

1Co 15:51  Behold, I tell you the mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we all shall be changed:
1Co 15:52  suddenly, as in the twinkling of the eye, at the last Trumpet, while it calleth; and the dead will arise without corruption, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53  For this which is corruptible shall put on incorruption, and likewise (this) which dieth shall put on immortality.

1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jeshu died and arose, so also Aloha those who have slept in Jeshu will bring with him.
1Th 4:15  But this we say to you by the word of our Lord, that we who [may be] remaining at the coming of our Lord, [we] who [then may] live, will not precede those who have slept.
1Th 4:16  For our Lord himself with the mandate, and with the voice of the Chief of angels, and with the trumpet of Aloha, will come down from heaven, and the dead who are in the Meshiha will arise first;
1Th 4:17  and then we who remaining [may be] alive, shall be rapt with them together in clouds, to the meeting of our Lord in the expanse;* and so always with our Lord shall we be.[* Or, in heaven, as aar, may be understood. Compare SCHLEUSNER, sub voce, No. 2.]
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.  [Etheridge]


If a man merely fainted from crucifixion, he would not be able to remove the face cloth without removing the shroud that covered his body. So here one can imagine that it was the power of Yeshua in action where no man could remove the face cloth without removing the shroud which have linen strips bundled over it at the regions of the neck, hands and feet.

As in the case of the Lazarus raised from the dead after 4 days, he was bound at his hands and feet when he came forth the tomb at the command of Yeshua with merely 3 words "Lazarus, come out!"

John 11:43  And when he had said these (words), he cried with a high voice, Loozar, come without!
John 11:44  And he, the dead, came forth, his hands and his feet being bound with bandages, and his face in a linen cloth. Jeshu saith to them, Release him, and let (him) go. [Etheridge]


Let's examine the words of the Gospel writers in details about the linen cloths.

Luke 24:12  But Simon arose, and ran to the sepulchre, and looked in, and saw the linen lying by itself: and he went away wondering in himself at what had occurred.  [Murdock, Aramaic Translation]

John 20:5  And he [John] looked in, and saw the linen cloths lying: but he did not go in.
John 20:6  And after him came Simon; and he entered the sepulchre, and saw the linen cloths lying;
John 20:7  and the napkin, that had been wrapped about his head, was not with the linen cloths, but was folded up, and laid in a place by itself.
[Murdock, Aramaic Translation]


John clearly differentiates between this smaller face cloth, the sudarium, and the larger linen cloth or shroud that had wrapped the body of Yeshua. Both Luke 24:12 and John 20:5 mention the shroud lying undisturbed.  John 20:7 mentions the face cloth or napkin thathad wrapped upon the head of Yeshua was detached from the shroud, folded up, and laid in a place by itself.

A larger piece of linen is known as The Shroud of Turin is found and kept at Turin in Italy. The face cloth or Sudarium that is found and kept at Oviedo in Spain. Both the sudarium and shroud of Turin has same blood stains of type AB.

The Shroud of Turin has failed the Carbon 14 test basically because of the fire in 1532 which almost destroyed it. The dust of the smoke had contaminated the shroud which produced the skew data of the Carbon14 reading. But a Swiss Textile historian Flury-Lemberg had examined the shroud of Turin and testified that the Shroud was the first century linen cloth. Flury-Lemberg is not a Christian. But she merely testified that the linen of the shroud matched the quality of the linen of the first century found at Masada in Palestine. Biography of Flury Lemberg is found at
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/previous_seasons/case_shroudchrist/interview.html

Quote about Flury Lemberg:

She first noticed that the entire cloth was crafted with a weave known as a three-to-one herringbone pattern. "This kind of weave was special in antiquity because it denoted an extraordinary quality," she says. (Less fine linens of the first century would have had a one-to-one herringbone pattern). That same pattern is present on a 12th century illustration that depicts Christ's funeral cloth, which, she says, is "extremely significant, because it shows that the painter was familiar with Christ's Shroud and that he recognized the indubitably exceptional nature of the weave of the cloth." Flury-Lemberg also discovered a peculiar stitching pattern in the seam of one long side of the Shroud, where a three-inch wide strip of the same original fabric was sewn onto a larger segment. The stitching pattern, which she says was the work of a professional, is surprisingly similar to the hem of a cloth found in the tombs of the Jewish fortress of Masada. The Masada cloth dates to between 40 B.C. and 73 A.D. The evidence, says Flury-Lemberg, is clear: "The linen cloth of the Shroud of Turin does not display any weaving or sewing techniques which would speak against its origin as a high quality product of the textile workers of the first century."


Now Christians have good evidence from the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium that Yeshua was indeed crucified and died on the Cross.

JESUS AND RESURRECTION FACTS

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Doesn't matter if I'm not following the majority. Even Allah warns us of doing that. Surah 6:116

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Let's see whose words is the truth:-

Surah 6:116 Pickthal
If thou obeyedst most of those on earth they would mislead thee far from Allah's way. They follow naught but an opinion, and they do but guess.

Deuteronomy 19:15  One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Now, it is not the majority shall decide which words are from GOD but the validity of the 2 truthful eye-witnesses which made the difference. So the words of your Book is mere opinion similar to any wise man. The Law of God in the Torah is that matters. On the Day of Judgment the words of men shall perish in thin air as only the words of Yeshua shall stand the test of time.

Mat 5:17 [Yeshua said]  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19  Whosoever therefore shall BREAK one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The words of Yeshua are the commandments of God. So listen to this Law of God.
Matthew 18:16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Did Quran pass the test of 2 truthful witnesses to establish the truth of the words in your Book??? I have told you that Iblis is very cunning and your allah cannot command him to obey his order as he refused to worship Adam. So you are now in danger of being deceived by Iblis if you still refused to believe the words of Yeshua and apply it to test the truth of your Book.

Quran is not the words of Gabriel nor from God. Muhammad is not a valid eye-witnesses to all the accounts in the Quran and therefore not a valid witness according to the Law of God. He did not write the Quran himself but it was written by uninspired men who are not prophets nor apostles.

"Conclusion: Based God's law on the account of 2 or 3 truthful witnesses, the matter is established that Yeshua was crucified and rose from His dead on the Third Day:

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Anyone who believes in the Second Coming doctrine is in for a big surprise. And don't say you weren't warned, sport. :P

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You may not be surprised on the Day of Judgment unless you have not renounced Yeshua as the Savior once you were a Baptist Christian. The grace of Yeshua will be exhausted if you keep attacking the works of the salvation plan of God. How did Noah save his family from the big flood???

"2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were EYEWITNESSES of his majesty."

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Caught you in a lie.

"Then all the disciples forsook him and fled." Mat. 26:56, Mark 14:50
Peter? Luke 22:54 denies Jesus 3 times, Luke 22:62

They all ran off.
Oh wait... Is that.. Is that a contradiction in your Book? :D

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Are you so foolish for not looking further the works of Simon Peter? If you cannot read the whole Book of the Bible, do not comment on anything by looking a few verses which do not reflect the whole picture of the life of Peter.

Mat 26:55  At that hour Jesus said to the crowds, "Have you come out as against a robber, with swords and clubs to capture me? Day after day I sat in the temple teaching, and you did not seize me.
Mat 26:56  But all this has taken place that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples left him and fled.
Mat 26:57  Then those who had seized Jesus led him to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders had gathered.
Mat 26:58  And Peter was following him at a distance, as far as the courtyard of the high priest, and going inside he sat with the guards to see the end.

You are corrupting the words of the Bible which shall bring destruction to your soul unless you repent.

Peter have to be restored by 3 times of re-confession. But you may not have time to confess if God take your life tonight! Do not fool and mock God.

John 21:14  This was now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after he was raised from the dead.
Joh 21:15  When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."

Joh 21:16  He said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."

Joh 21:17  He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." Jesus said to him, "Feed my sheep.

Joh 21:18  Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted, but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will dress you and carry you where you do not want to go."
Joh 21:19  (This he said to show by what kind of death he was to glorify God.) And after saying this he said to him, "Follow me."


The testimony of Apostle John and Matthew shall establish the truth.

1Jn 1:1  That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life--
1Jn 1:2  the life was made manifest, and we have SEEN it, and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to us--
1Jn 1:3  that which we have SEEN and HEARD we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1Jn 1:4  And we are writing these things so that our joy may be complete.
1Jn 1:5  This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6  If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
1Jn 1:7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8  If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10  If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


"Peter was amongst the three witnesses"

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According to Scripture, he denied Isa (pbuh) 3 times and ran like a scared little girl.
Or do you deny the Gospels According To in favor of the teachings of a man who is not a Prophet of Allah?

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Apostle John and James also testified about the works of Yeshua.

Jas 1:1  James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes in the Dispersion: Greetings.
Jas 1:2  Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds,
Jas 1:3  for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness.
Jas 1:4  And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
Jas 1:5  If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.
Jas 1:6  But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7  For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8  he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
Jas 1:9  Let the lowly brother boast in his exaltation,
Jas 1:10  and the rich in his humiliation, because like a flower of the grass he will pass away.

Jas 2:19  You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe--and shudder!
Jas 2:20  Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?

You believe in one God and Satan believe that too! What make you difference from Satan to convince God to save your soul and not of the Satan?


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"Jesus was raised alive to God on the day of crucifixion and not died a natural death as based on the words of Muhammad in Quran saying:"

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See previous letters. It is clear and apparent you don't listen or comprehend English.

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Surah 4:157-158 refute your false claim.

"You are not a follower of Jesus and thus you cannot interpret the Holy Scripture of the Christians. Do you believe Jesus is the Lord? If not, you do not have the Holy Spirit in you to guide you and understand the inspired scripture of the Christians."

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Where is your proof of this claim?
Explanation is not proof. :P

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Surah 10:94 Pickthal
And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

Muhammad says in Surah 10:94 that Allah gave the authority to the Christians and Jews to interpret the scripture. So when Muhammad was in doubt, he could ask the People of the Book for clarification.

Christians are superior based on Surah 3:55; followers of Jesus are superior till the Day of Resurrection. So when Christians interpret the scripture, Muslims have to submit to it by obeying Surah 10:94. Allah made no provision to refer to him alone when you  are in doubt. Instead Allah advised Muhammad to ask those who read the scripture before him.

No servant is greater than his Master. No follower is greater than his Leader. So Muslims are not greater or better than Muhammad to interpret the scripture the way you like. Instead ask the People of the Book in accordance with Surah 10:94 when you are in doubt. The interpretation of the scripture from the People of the Book is FINAL. No further argument over the same topic.


Thursday, June 25, 2009

Muslim & Christian Views: IS JESUS GOD?



Over 400 points have been made on the debate of the topic: IS JESUS GOD? For simplicity, I have summarized 12 reasons to believe that JESUS is GOD based on the Scripture of the Holy Bible of the Christians. To view all 400 points made, please click and download the pdf file 548.16Kb for your easy reference.


CONCLUSION: 12 Valid Reasons to believe that JESUS is GOD!

JESUS has His own Power, Authority and Glory from these verses:-

1. JESUS has His own power to empower his disciples. Luke 10:19 JESUS said: "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my Name shall they cast out devils


2. JESUS spoke in greater authority than Scribes. Mark 1:22 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes. Moses could not even spoke with authority and his brother Aaron was made a prophet for him. Yet Moses was made a God to Pharaoh by LORD GOD. JESUS was made GOD in similitude to MOSES. Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Deuteronomy 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, LIKE UNTO THEE, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. John 10:34 JESUS answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, "Ye are Gods."


3. JESUS had the Glory of God before the world was created. God will not give His glory to another. The Glory of GOD only belongs to GOD! John 17:5 And now glorify thou me, my Father, with thyself, in that glory which I had with Thee before the world was. Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my Name: and my GLORY will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of His glory:


4. JESUS was not created but came through virgin birth; He is called The Son of God as He was conceived by the Holy Spirit of God and not in the similitude of Adam created from the dust of the ground. John 10:36 do ye say to him, whom the Father, hath sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said to you, I am the Son of God? Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, 'The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of 'The Son of GOD'."


5. JESUS shall return in His own power and great glory to rule the earth. Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in His Glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his Glory


6. JESUS shall be the Chief Judge on the Day of Judgment. Mat 25:32 And before Him shall be gathered ALL NATIONS: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats Mat 25:41 Then shall HE say also unto them on the Left Hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into Everlasting Fire, prepared for the Devil and his Angels


7. JESUS is GOD as LORD Almighty called Him “GOD” just as LORD made Moses a GOD! Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. John 10:35 [JESUS said] If He called "them Gods", unto whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken


8. JESUS accepts worship from men and women. Mat 28:9 And lo, JESUS met them, and said to them: Hail, ye. And they came and clasped his feet, and worshipped him. Blind man healed by JESUS worshipped Him: John 9:38 And he said: My Lord, I believe: and he fell down, and worshipped him.


9. JESUS was sanctified by God and was set apart as holy and sinless. Only GOD is sinless and Holy. John 10:36 do ye say to him, whom the Father, hath sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said to you, I am the Son of God?


10. JESUS is GOD as He could forgive sins on earth which the Scribes testified that no man can, except God only! Mark 2:7 …Who can forgive sins but GOD only? Mark 2:10 “But that ye may know that the Son of Man hath POWER on earth to forgive sins”


11. JESUS says His Father is GOD and equaled himself with GOD. John 5:17 But JESUS said to them: “My Father worketh until now, and I work.” John 5:18 And for this, the JEWS sought the more to kill him, not only because he had broken the Sabbath, but because he had said of God, that he was his Father, and had equalled himself with GOD.


12. JESUS did not deny to the charge for claiming Himself as God. Quoting the Law in John 10:34-35 was to defend himself and not to deny the charge. John 10:33 The JEWS answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a MAN, makest thyself GOD.



To prove that JESUS is not omniscient by quoting Mark 13:32 shall be futile because He was then speaking as the Son of Man and not as the Son of God. Furthermore the context of Mark 13:32 is about the second return of JESUS Himself. When JESUS says He does not know the day and hour of His own return, it is allegorical that He does not want to reveal it yet.


John 5:30 does not imply that JESUS was powerless but it means He was committed to do the will of His Father and not of His own will which supports “I and my Father are one” – John 10:30. John 5:30 I cannot of the will of myself do any thing; but as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just; for I seek not my will, but the will of Him who sent me. [Aramaic, Etheridge Translation]


To discredit the Bible by using the Bible itself is futile as each book is authoritative on its own merit. As a general principle on understanding of the Scripture, a clearer verse shall prevail over the interpretation of an ambiguous verse. The final evidence is still in favor of the Christians.

I pray that the above comments related to the Debate: IS JESUS GOD? shall help all truth seekers to find the true Savior of the World!




To God be all the Glory! Amen.



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Sunday, February 15, 2009

Bible Authors and Date Written

When was the Bible written and who wrote it?

The following dates are not exact but are very close estimates.

Book

Author

Date Written

Genesis

Moses

1450-1410 B.C.

Exodus

Moses

1450-1410 B.C.

Leviticus

Moses 1445-1444 B.C.

Numbers

Moses

1450-1410 B.C.

Deuteronomy

Moses 1407-1406 B.C.

Joshua

Joshua 1404-1390 B.C.

Judges

Samuel  1374-1129 B.C.

Ruth

Samuel  1375-1050 B.C.

First Samuel

Samuel  1043-1011 B.C.

Second Samuel

 Ezra?  1011-1004 B.C.

First Kings

 Jeremiah?  971-852 B.C.

Second Kings

 Jeremiah?  852-587 B.C.

First Chronicles

 Ezra?  430 B.C.

Second Chronicles

 Ezra?  430 B.C.

Ezra

 Ezra 450  B.C.

Nehemiah

 Nehemiah 445 - 432 B.C.

Esther

 Mordecai? 483-471 B.C.

Job

Job?   ??

Psalms

David 1000? B.C. 

Son of Korah wrote Psalms 42, 44-49, 84-85, 87; Asaph wrote Psalms 50, 73-83; Heman wrote Psalm 88; Ethan wrote Psalm 89; Hezekiah wrote Psalms 120-123, 128-130, 132, 134-136; 
Solomon wrote Psalms 72, 127.

Proverbs

Solomon wrote 1-29
Agar wrote 30
Lemuel wrote 31
 950 - 700 B.C.

Ecclesiastes

Solomon 935 B.C.

Song of Solomon

Solomon  965 B.C.

Isaiah

 Isaiah  740 - 680 B.C.

Jeremiah

 Jeremiah  627 - 586 B.C.

Lamentations

 Jeremiah  586 B.C.

Ezekiel

 Ezekiel 571 B.C.

Daniel

 Daniel 535 B.C.

Hosea

 Hosea  715 B.C.

Joel

 Joel

835 B.C.

Amos

 Amos

 755 B.C.

Obadiah

 Obadiah

 853-841 B.C.

Jonah

 Jonah

785-760 B.C.

Micah

 Micah

 700 B.C.

Nahum

 Nahum

 663 - 612 B.C.

Habakkuk

 Habakkuk

 607 B.C.

Zephaniah

 Zephaniah

 625 B.C.

Haggai

 Haggai

 520 B.C.

Zechariah

 Zechariah

 520 - 518 B.C.

Malachi

 Malachi

 430 B.C.
 
  

Book

Author

Date Written

Matthew

 Matthew  Around A.D. 60-65 

Mark

 John Mark

 Around A.D. 55-65 

Luke

 Luke

 Around A.D. 60 

John

 John  Around A.D. 85-90 

Acts

 Luke   Around A.D. 63-70 

Romans

 Paul

 Around A.D. 57 

1 Corinthians

 Paul  Around A.D. 55 

2 Corinthians

 Paul  Around A.D. 55-57 

Galatians

 Paul  Around A.D. 49 

Ephesians

 Paul

 Around A.D. 60

Philippians

 Paul  Around A.D. 61

Colossians

 Paul

 Around A.D. 60

1 Thessalonians

 Paul

 Around A.D. 51

2 Thessalonians

 Paul

 Around A.D. 51-52

1 Timothy

 Paul

 Around A.D. 64

2 Timothy

 Paul

 Around A.D. 66-67

Titus

 Paul

 Around A.D. 64

Philemon

 Paul

 Around A.D. 60

Hebrews

(Paul, Apollos, Barnabas...?) 

 Around A.D. 60-69

James

 James, brother of Jesus

 Around A.D. 49-50

1 Peter

 Peter

 Around A.D. 62-64

2 Peter

 Peter

 Around A.D. 67

1 John

 John

 Around A.D. 85-90

2 John

 John

 Around A.D. 90

3 John

 John

 Around A.D. 90

Jude

 Jude, half-brother of Jesus

 Around A.D. 65

Revelation

 John

 Around A.D. 90-95

Saturday, December 13, 2008

24 Common Fallacies of Muslims

24 Fallacies of Muslims

1) Allah preserves only the Quran from being corrupted while the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus has been changed or corrupted.

2) The title 'The Son of God" does not mean "God" as there are many sons of God.

3) Jesus is not more than a Prophet and is a Man.

4) Trinity is a pagan teachings from Saint Paul and not the original teachings of Jesus.

5) The Gospel of Jesus that Surah 3:3 is confirming to be the truth, is lost forever.

6) The Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel.

7) The Comforter in John 14:26 is the praised one,  Muhammad who came after Jesus.

8) Jesus was not crucified but was raised up to God directly.

9) The Gospel writers in the 4 accounts of Jesus are not known as the writer's name is not stated therein.

10) Ishmael was the first born son of Abraham about to be sacrificed on the altar.

11) Quran, given by Gabriel, is the final book of authority, superseding the Torah and the Gospel.

12) Christians believe in 3 Gods or Trinity comprises of Allah, Mary and Jesus the Messiah (Quran 5:116)

13) Jesus was made God in the Council of Nicea in 325AD.

14) Jesus prayed to God and so He cannot be God himself.

15) Islam is a divine religion.

16) Jesus has no authority and that all authority are GIVEN by God.

17) Jesus performed no miracle by His own power.

18) Adam & Eve came down from heaven like Jesus.

19) Angels were created to bow down to man.

20) Satan tempted them -  both Adam and Eve or Eve alone?

21) Allah is all-forgiving and most merciful, He has forgiven Adam and Eve, and all who believe in one God and truly repent of their sins.

22) All Muslims will cross-over to Paradise via a Bridge, the speed of travel across the Bridge will depend on the weight of their good deeds in their life time.

23) Jesus will come to earth the second time to fight the anti-Christs and to die in order to fulfill His words in Quran [19:33]

24) Allah is the God of Abraham and all prophets from Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Israel (Jacob) to Jesus are Muslims.


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Muslims have frequently misunderstood the scriptures revealed before the Quran. Allah commanded Muhammad to follow the principle of Surah 10:94.

 But Muslims refused to believe and disobey such practice, to ask those who read scripture before Quran when they are in doubt. Instead many wrong interpretations have been made and taught from generation to generation.

This article is written by someone who is reading the scripture before Quran and is well qualified to interpret the Quran in the context of Surah 10:94.

These are 20 common fallacies of Muslims:-

1) Allah perserves only the Quran from being corrupted while the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus has been changed or corrupted.

Allah has permitted it to be corrupted by the Scribes and that Quran is the final book, superseding the Torah and the Gospel.

Truth: Allah had revealed the Torah and the Gospel earlier than the Quran. According to Surah 3:3, Quran is merely confirming the earlier revealations in the Torah and the Gospel.

The word "confirming" is a present continuous tense which is meant for factual things that is still true today. If it is no longer true today, then the revelation of Surah 3:3 is fake and has no credibility.

2) The title 'The Son of God" does not mean "God" as there are many sons of God. For instance, Luke 3:38   Adam which was the son of God.

Genesis 6:2  That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 1:6  Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Romans 8:14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Truth: There are many sons of God but there is only one begotten God or The begotten Son of God.

John 1:18  No man hath ever seen God; the only begotten God, he who is in the bosom of his Father, he hath declared [him].

John 1:19  And this is the testimony of John [the Baptist] ... (Aramaic Peshitta Translation by Murdock)

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him, should not perish, but should have life eternal.

3) Jesus is not more than a Prophet and is a Man.
Jesus exhibits all the characteristics of the son of man. Jesus wept (John 11:35), tempted of the Devil (Mat 4:1), thirst (John 19:28), slept (Luke 8:23), hungry (Mat 4:2), died (John 19:30).

Truth: While it is right to say Jesus exhibits all the characteristics of the Son of Man, there are 2 sides of a coin and we have to examine the other  side of the coin which is called "The Son of God".

Jesus is the Creator of all things. John 1:1  In the beginning, was the Word; and the Word was with God; and the Word was God.

John 1:2  He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3  Every thing was by his hand; and without him, was not any thing whatever that existed.

John 1:14  And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled with us: and we saw his glory, a glory as of the only begotten from the Father, that he was full of grace and truth.

John 1:15  John testified of him, and cried, and said: This is he, of whom I said, That he cometh after me, and is before me; for he was prior to me.

As Jesus as the Word and His Father was God, the Aramaic version of John 1:1 can be paraphrased to read as "In the beginning, was existing Jesus (the Word); and Jesus (the Word) was existing with His Father; and Jesus (the Word) was existing God.


John 3:31  For he that cometh from above, is above all; and he that is from the earth, is of the earth, and talketh of the earth. He that cometh from heaven, is above all;
Joh 3:32  and what he hath seen and heard, he testifieth; and his testimony, no one receiveth.
Joh 3:33  But he that receiveth his testimony, hath set his seal, that God is true.
Joh 3:34  For he whom God hath sent, speaketh the words of God; for God hath not given the Spirit by measure [to him].
Joh 3:35  The Father loveth the Son, and hath given every thing into his hands.
Joh 3:36  He that believeth on the Son, hath life eternal; but he who obeyeth not the Son, shall not see life. but the wrath of God will abide upon him.
Exodus 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
God cannot give every thing or all authority to a created being as it will violate Exodus 20:3 which people will worship the created being as God.

4) Trinity is a pagan teachings from Saint Paul and not the original teachings of Jesus.

Truth: Paul was a Jew, highly educated in the law of God and believe in one God and one Lord. Trinity means Three-in-Unity, comes from the understanding of the scripture as a whole particularly from John 14:26.

1Cor 8:6 [Paul wrote] yet to us, on our part, there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus the Messiah, by whom are all things, and we also by him.

Act 22:3  [Paul said] I am a man who am a Jew; and I was born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but was brought up in this city, at the feet of Gamaliel, and instructed perfectly in the law of our fathers; and I was zealous for God, as ye also all are.

If Saint Paul was teaching pagan belief, the poisonous snake would have killed him.
Act 28:5  But Paul shook his hand, and threw the viper into the fire: and he received no harm.

Act 28:6  And the barbarians expected, that he would suddenly swell, and fall dead on the ground. And when they had looked a long time, and saw that he received no harm; they changed their language, and said, that he was a god.

5) The Gospel of Jesus that Surah 3:3 is confirming to be the truth, is lost forever.

Truth: Quran 3:3 says it is confirming the truth in the Torah and the Gospel that Allah had revealed earlier to Moses and Jesus respectively. Quran 6:115 says that none can change His words.

So who can corrupt His words the Gospel that Allah revealed earlier and why Allah cannot preserved His Word???

Quran 3:3 Pickthal
He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.

None can change Allah's word

Quran 6:115 Pickthal
Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower.

Of course, Allah did preserve the Gospel of Jesus in the Aramaic Peshitta - the original Gospel or Good News of Jesus.

Truth: The original Gospel of Jesus was preserved in the Aramaic Peshitta Bible.

One of the oldest Aramic Peshitta manuscripts known as the Khabouris Codex is believed to be compiled around 90AD. It has all the 4 accounts on the Gospel or Good News of Jesus were well recorded by the eye-witnesses or interviewed with eye-witnesses and including 18 other books.

1) Aramaic Peshitta New Testament
http://www.dukhrana.com/peshitta

2) Aramaic Peshitta Bible Repository:
Aramaic-English Translation
2.1  http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/
2.2  http://www.peshitta.org/

3) Original Gospel of Jesus in Khabouris Codex http://aramaicbible.us/Khaburis/


6) The Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel.

Truth: There is no single verse in the Quran which teaches Angel Gabriel is also known as the Holy Spirit.

The teachings in the Old Testament and the Gospel do not support such doctrine.

Psalms 51:11  [King David prayed] Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy Holy Spirit from me.

Isaiah 63:11  Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him?

Luke 11:13  [Jesus says] If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
John 14:26  [Jesus says] But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

In conclusion, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God who indwell King David, guide prophets to speak the word of God, and will be given to indwell all disciples or followers of Jesus so as to teach them in all truth. Angel Gabriel was never known as the Holy Spirit.

7) The Comforter in John 14:26 is the praised one,  Muhammad who came after Jesus.

Truth: John 14:26  [Jesus says] But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost [1], whom the Father [2] will send in my name [3], He [singular] shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The "Comforter, Holy Spirit" mention in John 14:26 is a single being as "He" is used to denote the same person. So the Comforter is the Holy Spirit and not an individual.

8) Jesus was not crucified but was raised up to God directly.

Truth: There is no objection that Jesus was raised up to God but there is no truth that Jesus was not crucified at all. Why would Jesus be spared from crucifixion?

Jesus have to prove His credibility as He had declared His mission to His apostles that he would die for 3 days?  Mat 12:40  [Jesus says] For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Mar 10:33  Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
Mar 10:34  And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mat 17:22  And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:
Mat 17:23  And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again.

John 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
John 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
John 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

Revelation 1:18  [Jesus says] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


Outside Bibical evidence: The Shroud of Turin and Jewish historian Josephus
Testimony from the Romans

Cornelius Tacitus (ca. 56-120) was a Roman senator, consul and governor of the Roman province of Anatolia (covering most of modern-day Turkey) as well as one of ancient Rome's greatest historians. Late in his life he wrote a 16-volume history of the Roman emperors, the Annals.

No friend to either Nero or Christians, Tacitus writes that Nero blamed "a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace."

He goes on to explain that "Christus [Christ], from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty [crucifixion] during the reign of Tiberius at the hand of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome ..." (Annals, 15:44, quoted by Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ, 1998, p. 82).

 From these historical sources, none connected in any way with the Bible, we see references to these facts:

    * A group called "Christians" derived its name from "Christus" (Christ).
    * This "Christus" was executed during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of Pontius Pilate (Tiberius reigned A.D. 14-37; Pilate held office from 26 to 36 or 37).
    * This new movement involved "a most mischievous superstition," quite possibly a reference to Christians' belief that Jesus rose from the dead after His crucifixion.
    * This new movement begun by Christians began in Judea and spread to Rome.
    * Early Christians considered Christ to be a divine Being.

Testimony from Josephus

Flavius Josephus, a prominent Jewish historian of the first century, is well known to historians and scholars. Born into a priestly family in A.D. 37, Josephus was well educated and commanded a Jewish detachment in Galilee during the Jewish revolt of 66-70 until his capture by the Romans. At the end of the war he went to Rome with the Roman general Titus, where he lived and wrote until his death about A.D. 100.

Josephus twice mentions Jesus in his monumental work Antiquities of the Jews, written A.D. 90-95. His most extensive quote reads:

"Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,—a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day" (Antiquities, Book 18, chapter 3, section 3).



9) The Gospel writers in the 4 accounts of Jesus are not known as the writer's name is not stated therein.

Truth: The Gospel of Jesus were written between 55 AD and 67 AD except for Gospel by John, while Jesus was crucified around 33 AD. Letters of St. Paul were written between 55 AD and 67 AD. Last Book of Revelation by John was written around 95AD.

Eusebius of Caesarea, who wrote in the fourth century, states that Paul was beheaded in the reign of the Roman Emperor Nero. This event has been dated either to the year 64, when Rome was devastated by a fire, or a few years later, to 67 AD.

So the writing of the Gospel cannot be later than Paul's death in 67 AD except for the Gospel by the account of Apostle John. John was believed to survive until 96AD.

The Gospel of Jesus was the Good News preached to the nation of Israel. These preachings were heard and seen by His Apostles Mathai & Jouchanon and written down in each Book.  Markos & Lukos were disciples or followers of Jesus who were companions of Apostle Paul.

They wrote the Gospel when most of the other apostles of Jesus were alive and able to verify the facts.

There is not a period in Christian history that all believers abandoned the faith but the Gospel was read in the worship service every Sundays

The names of the Gospel writers were passed on by word of mouth. One cannot conceive that the name of the Gospel writer can be forgotten or unknown when the Gospel is used frequently.

Moreover there is no dispute on the names of the Gospel writers at any point of time in history.

The account by Matthew is derived from this verse - Mat 9:9  And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew [Mathai], sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

The account by Apostle John is derived from these verses "the disciple whom he loved". John 19:26  When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

John 19:27  Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Luke and Mark are the disciples of Jesus and companions of Apostle Paul. Luke and Mark could be followers of Jesus earlier than Saint Paul.

Paul's conversion was around 36 AD after an encounter with Jesus while on his way to Damascus from Jerusalem (Acts 9:1-28). Colossians 4:14  Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.
2Timothy 4:11  Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.
Philemon 1:24  Mark, Aristarchus, Demas, Luke, my fellow laborers.



1Pe 1:18  since ye know, that neither with perishable silver, nor with gold, ye were redeemed from your vain doings, which ye had by tradition from your fathers;
1Pe 1:19  but with the precious blood of that Lamb in which is no spot nor blemish, namely, the Messiah:

10) Ishmael was the first born son of Abraham, about to be sacrificed on the altar.

Truth: Ishmael was the first son but not the firstborn of Abraham but he was not the promised son of God made to Sarah.

Genesis 17:21  BUT my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. Exodus 2:24  And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.

Quran 37:113 (Yusuf Ali) And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet, - one of the Righteous. 37:100-104 "O my Lord! Grant me a Righteous (son)!" So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice...



Genesis 16:15  And Hagar bore Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bore, Ishmael.  Gen 16:16  And Abram was fourscore and six years (86) old, when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.

Gen 17:19  And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

Gen 17:20  And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation [no land was promised].
Gen 17:21  BUT my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
Gen 21:4  And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him.
Gen 21:5  And Abraham was a hundred (100) years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him.
Gen 21:12  And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Abraham never went to Arabia to build Kaaba but to the land of Moriah.
Gen 22:2  And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Gen 22:16  And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
Gen 22:17  That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
Gen 22:18  And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.


11) Quran, given by Gabriel, is the final book of authority, superseding the Torah and the Gospel.

Truth: Quran is merely confiriming the earlier revelation sand did not supersede nor abrogate the earlier revelations of Allah.

Quran 3:3 (Pickthal)
He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.

Allah even commanded Muhammad to ask those who read scripture before Quran when he was in doubt which proved that the Torah and the Gospel were true at the time of Muhammad.

Quran 10:94 (Pickthal) "And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers."

If the Gospel was already corrupted so that Quran came along to supersede it, then why Allah still commanded Muhammad to ask those reading corrupted scriptures for intepretation or clarification of the scripture?

12) Christians believe in 3 Gods or Trinity comprises of Allah, Mary and Jesus the Messiah. Quran 5:116 And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?"...

Truth: There is not a single verse in the Gospel that advises the mother of Jesus, Mary to be worshipped as God. 

The Trinity concept was derived from the words of Jesus alone in (Aramaic Peshitta - Murdock Translation) John 14:26  [Jesus says] But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit [1], whom the Father [2]will send in my name [3], he [singular - which means Comforter & Holy Spirit are one person] will teach you every thing, and will remind you of all that I say to you.

13) Jesus was made God in the Council of Nicea in 325AD.

Truth: Jesus was the Word, God made Flesh and dwelt amongst us as stated in John 1:1-14. The Gospel of John was written around 90AD at the latest. So there is no truth that Christians exalted Jesus as God only in the Council if Nicea in 325AD.

14) Jesus prayed to God and so He cannot be God too. (Aramaic Peshitta) Mat 27:46  And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why you leave me?

Truth: Jesus says His Father is God. John 8:42  Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
So what Jesus meant was "Father, Father why you leave me?" to linger on the Cross. Jesus had suffered for 6 long hours from the pains of crucifixion and had fulfilled every prophecy. His mission on earth was accomplished and He asked His Father to terminate his life.
John 19:28  After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

John 19:29  Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a sponge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

John 19:30  When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.


15) Islam is a divine religion.

Truth:  The core of teachings of Islam is from the Quran. Allah hated the Jews and the Christians; how could all-loving God hated His chosen nation of Israel, the Jews? Allah has no Love for mankind and fill them in Hell as fuel for hell-fire.

Quran [005:051] "O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth
not a people unjust."

Quran [009:029] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book (Jews & Christians), until they pay
the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

[009:030] The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the
unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are
deluded away from the Truth!

Comments: The Jews called Jesus blasphemied for addressing Himself as "The Son of God" (John 10:36), how could the Jews believe in another Son of God??? Where is the Torah that show Uzair a son of Allah?

Surah 66:6 (Yusuf Ali) - Allah ask you to save yourself, no savior!
O ye who believe! save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is MEN and Stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who flinch not (from executing) the Commands they receive from God, but do (precisely) what they are commanded.

Sura 11:119 Save him on whom thy Lord hath Mercy; and for that He did create them. And the Word of thy Lord hath been fulfilled: "Verily I shall fill hell with the jinn and MANKIND together." (Pickthal)

16) Jesus has no authority and that all authority are GIVEN by God.

Truth: God will never give all authority to a created being that he may be worshipped as god. Exodus 20:3 "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

In fact,  Jesus has his own authority to be incarnated as the Son of God and humbled to the state of a servant so as to come down from heaven.

John 10:18  [Jesus says] There is no one that taketh it from me; but I lay it down of my own pleasure: for I have authority to lay it down, and authority to resume it again; because I have received this command from my Father.

17) Jesus performed no miracle by His own power.

Truth: The greatest miracle of Jesus was that He was God who put aside His Glory and came to the world born as a little Baby by His power of the Holy Spirit.

John 1:14  And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled with us: and we saw his glory, a glory as of THE ONLY BEGOTTEN from the Father, that he was full of grace and truth.

He co-existed as "The Son of Man" and "The Son of God" in one Body which puzzles all mankind. Jesus is 100% Man because he was born of a virgin woman and 100% God because He proceeded forth from His Father GOD.
Joh 16:27  [Jesus says] for the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I proceeded from the presence of the Father.
Joh 16:28  I proceeded forth from before the Father, and came into the world; and again I leave the world, and go to the Father. (Murdock)

Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one.
John 14:10  [Jesus says] Believest thou not, that I am in my Father, and MY FATHER IN ME? And the words which I speak, I speak not from myself: but my Father, who dwelleth in me, he doeth these works.
John 14:11  Believe, that I am in my Father, and my Father in me. And if not, believe, at least, on account of the works.

In conclusion, The Father always indwell The Son by the presence of the Holy Spirit and they are perfectly united as One LORD and indivisible as 3 Gods.

If Jesus said "I and my Father are 2 Gods", then it is scripturally correct to say Christians believe in 2 or 3 Gods. At this juncture, " Deu 6:4  Hear, O Israel: The YHWH (LORD) our ELOHIM (God) is one YHWH (LORD)

18) Adam & Eve came down from heaven like Jesus.
 
Quran [007:023] They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If thou forgive us not and bestow not upon us Thy Mercy, we shall certainly be lost."

[007:024] (Allah) said: "Get ye down. With enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time."
[007:025] He said: "Therein shall ye live, and therein shall ye die; but from it shall ye be taken out (at last)."

[020:123] He said: "Get ye down, both of you,- all together, from the Garden, with
enmity one to another: but if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from
Me, whosoever follows My Guidance, will not lose his way, nor fall into
misery.

Truth: Adam and Eve dwelled in the Garden of Eden on this planet earth and not in Heaven. "Get ye down" in the verse may mean they were dwelling on higher ground in the Garden of Eden and cast out of it to a lower ground. There is no dust in the Paradise or the Kingdom of God. 
Genesis 2:7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:8  And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Mat 11:27  [Jesus says] All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
John 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (KJV)

No man ever come down from Heaven except the Son of God who came from the presence of the Father.

John 6:38 [ Jesus says] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Note: Jesus came from the Holy God as no man came from Heaven except the Holy One.

19) Angels were created to bow down to man.

[007:011] It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels bow down to Adam, and they bowed down; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those
who bow down.
[017:061] Behold! We said to the angels: "Bow down unto Adam": They bowed down except Iblis: He said, "Shall I bow down to one whom Thou didst create from
clay?"

Truth: Angels are messengers of God and they only carry out the commandements of God. There are guardian angels for the followers of Jesus who shall be heirs of God. Angels are superior than Adam and do not worship man but God only.

2Peter 2:11  Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Psalms 103:20  Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.


[006:115] The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can
change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all.


[007:012] (Allah) said: "What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee?" He said: "I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay."

[007:013] (Allah) said: "Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here:
get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."



CONTRADICTION
20) Satan tempted them -  both Adam and Eve or Eve alone?

[007:019] "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things)
as ye wish: but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."

[007:020] Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to THEM, bringing openly
before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he
said: "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest ye should become angels
or such beings as live for ever."


Genesis 3:4  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Genesis 3:5  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Eve alone was tempted to eat the forbidden fruit and gave part of it to Adam.
Gen 3:12  And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Every one can read that Quran 7:20 Satan whisper to both of them while the Torah says Satan - Serpent tempted Eve only. Adam ate the fruit given by Eve either out of ignorant or love.

Surah 3:3 says it is confirming the Torah and the Gospel, is 100% a false revelation which came from men and not from all-knowing God.


21) Allah is all-forgiving and most merciful, He has forgiven Adam and Eve, and all who believe in one God and truly repent of their sins.

Good deeds out-weighting the bad deeds can save the believers from hell-fire.

[023:102] Then those whose balance (of good deeds) is heavy,- they will attain salvation:
[023:103] But those whose balance is light, will be those who have lost their
souls, in Hell will they abide.

Truth: If God had forgiven Adam and Eve, why they were still expelled from the Garden of Eden? Quran [020:123] He said: "Get ye down, both of you,- all together, from the Garden, with enmity one to another: ..."

The sins may be forgiven but the consequence of sins is death as they were punished and no longer immortal after sinning against God. The curse of sin can only be broken by the shedding of divine Blood.

Matthew 26:28  [Jesus says] For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Hebrews 9:22  And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Romans 6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Galatians 3:13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Gal 3:14  That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

22) All Muslims will cross-over to Paradise via a Bridge, the speed of travel across the Bridge will depend on the weight of their good deeds in their life time.

Truth: There is no single verse in the Quran that there is a Bridge across to Paradise except Surah 3:185 which says every soul will taste death and that those who is removed from the {Hell] Fire will enter Paradise; no direct access to Paradise except via Hell-fire.

Jesus who came from God, said there would be no crossing over from Hell to Paradise.
Luke 16:26  [Jesus says] And with all these, there is a great barrier between us and you; so that they who would pass from here to you, cannot; neither [can they] pass from there to us


Surah 3:185 (Pickthal)
Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion.

Surah 19:68 & Surah 19:71-72 confirmed that all Muslims will enter Hell before waiting for a Savior to be rescued from Hell.


23) Jesus will come to earth the second time to fight the anti-Christs and to die in order to fulfill His words in Quran [19:33] "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!

[19:34] Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about
which they (vainly) dispute.

Truth: Jesus has died once and has conquered the power of death; He will come the second time to judge the world and not to die.
Rev 1:17  [Jesus says}..."Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive FOREVERMORE, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. "

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the Glory of his Father with His angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

John 12:48  [Jesus says] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the Last Day.

Joh 5:21  For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
Joh 5:22  For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Joh 5:23  That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which hath sent him.

Joh 5:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

24) Allah is the God of Abraham and all prophets from Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Israel (Jacob) to Jesus are Muslims.

Truth: AL-ilah or Allah is the name used by the Arabs for supreme god of pre-islamic era. Muhammad destroyed all the 360 pagan gods at the Ka'aba as a form of purification for One God to remain as the Chief God. Allah before Islam had a wife and 3 daughters Al-Uzza, Al-Lat and Manat.

Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat.
Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be...a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry."
Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews."
The Muslim's claim that Allah is the eternal God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence.
Quran 38:5 "Has he made the gods (all) into one God? Truly this is a wonderful thing!"
Islam is nothing more than a purification of Kaabah by destroying 360 pagan gods and making one God out of it. Why the Black Stone at Ka'abah is preserved while all 360 idols were destroyed?

Abraham did not lay the foundation stone at Ka'abah as the Torah did not mention he ever enter Arabia.

Ishmael was a Hebrew and not an Arab because his father Abraham was a Hebrew and Aramaic speaking. All prophets of old are Hebrews and not a single prophet came from Arab descendant.

All Muslims have to recite the Shahada creed which acknowledges one Allah and to recognise Muhammad as the prophet of Allah.

All the prophets from Abraham to Jesus never recite the Shahada nor acknowledge Muhammad as the prophet of Allah. By the standard of practice today, they were not Muslims.

If the followers of Jesus were called Muslims, then the Muslims today are not true Muslims because most of them do not believe in all the revelations of Allah.

Many Muslims deny the Gospel or Good News of Jesus, in the Holy Bible as the original Gospel and yet cannot produce the Gospel which Quran Surah 3:3 is confirming to be true.

It is utterly a concoted notion and fallacy to confess that those prophets prior to Muhammad were Muslims; they were in fact of Hebrews and of Jewish bloodline from Abraham.

Abraham was a Hebrew (Genesis 14:13). Joseph was a Hebrew (Genesis 39:14). Moses was a Hebrew (Exodus 2:6).  Prophet Jonah was a Hebrew (Jonah 1:9). Jesus was a Hebrew and "King of the Jews" (Mat 1:1 & 2:2).

Quran 3:3 says Allah gave the Quran merely for confirming the Torah & the Gospel which was revealed earlier to Moses and to Jesus respectively.

Followers of Muhammad are desperate to get credit from the good name of Jesus and changed his race from Hebrew to Muslim - a blasphemy of the highest degree; a sin that will be condemned eternally in hell-fire.