Saturday, November 10, 2012
Tuesday, October 30, 2012
God is not numerically One but Infinite and united as One in unity.
I am a Trinitarian who can say "Yahushua (Jesus) is the LORD". So what?
John 8:17 And in your law it is written, that the testimony of two persons is certain.
John 8:18 I am one who bear witness of myself, and my Father who sent me, beareth witness of me.
John 8:19 They say to him: Where is thy Father? Jesus replied, and said to them: Ye neither know me nor my Father. If ye had known me, ye would also have known my Father.
Whoever believes that Yahushua is the Father is totally WRONG as The Word of Yahushua refutes and exposes the liars by virtue of
John 8:18 I am one who bear witness of myself, and my Father who sent me, beareth witness of me.
Another Proof of Elohim is more than One Person is based on Psalms 110:1
Psa 110:1 YHWH said unto My LORD: Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Mark 12:35 And Yahushua answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that the Messiah is the Son of David?
Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit, YHWH said to "MY LORD", Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Mark 12:37 David therefore himself calleth Him "LORD"; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.
By virtue of Mark 12:36, there are 4 Persons involved namely Prophet David, the Holy Spirit, Yahuwah (Father) and LORD (Messiah). If the Holy Spirit is just the Power of the Father Yahuwah, why the Holy Spirit is used in Mark 12:36? If the Father is also the Son, why Yahushua declared 2 Persons or 2 men in John 8:17-18?
Any person who believe in the Doctrine of Oneness have breached the Commandments or Doctrine of Lord Yahushua.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of the Messiah, hath not Elohim. He that abideth in the doctrine of the Messiah, he hath BOTH the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him peace:
By virtue of 2 John 1:19 Both the Father and the Son means 2 Persons; it can never mean One Person.
Deut 6:4 was spoken by Prophet Moses in Hebrew and not in English today. So we go back to Hebrew Text.
Deu 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: YaHuWaH our Elohim is Echad YaHuWaH". Hebrew word "echad" differs from "yachiyd" (only). Echad is plural of persons of the same nature unified as One e.g., "I and My Father are Echad" in Jn 10:30.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one (echad) Flesh.
Echad has dual meaning for numerical One and united as One. English Oxford Dictionary defines "ONE" to mean "the Same; Identical" as well as amongst other meanings.
When Prophet Moses was speaking Deut 6:4, Yahuwah had not revealed three Divine Persons to him but Abraham had been visited by Three Divine Persons called Angels whom Abraham called "Adonay" for LORD.
Gen 18:1 And YHWH appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Gen 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Gen 18:3 And said, YHWH, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
Note: When Abraham prostrated to the ground before the 3 Men transformed from Angels, he could not possibly call one of them "Adonay" (LORD) but three of them at the same time.
These 3 Men talked in unison to Abraham at the same time which we called Trinity or Three-in-unity.
Gen 18:9 And they said unto him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
In view of the facts that Prophet Moses wrote the Book of Genesis and Exodus, his choice of word "Echad" for union of man and his wife as Echad Flesh and Echad Yahuwah both implies plurality of persons united as One. Man and Woman are still 2 persons after marriage but they are One Spirit in term of Spiritual Union.
In John 10:30 Yahushua says "I and My Father are Echad" which is deduced from the same Greek word "Heis" used in John 10:30 and Mark 12:29, and then compared to Deut 6:4.
Echad means plural of persons or things of the same nature unified as ONE. When Hebrew word "echad" is translated to "ONE", it is not an indivisible ONE. Hebrew's root word for "echad" reveals plurality of persons or things. For instance, ribs are inside the man are plural of the same nature. Woman is created from echad rib taken out of Adam. Yahushua is echad Spirit came out of the Father Yahuwah. That is why Yahushua said" I and My Father are echad" in John 10:30 was understood by the Jews of the time of Yahushua as united as One Spirit which is blasphemy vide John 10:30-33.
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from Elohim.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. (RNKJV)
Note: Read carefully I leave the world and go to the Father. If Yahushua is the Father, why was He using redundant title Father. Should John 16:28 be rephrased to read as below?
John 16:28 I came forth from Me (the Father), and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to Myself ( the Father)???
How about 2 Person or 2 Men being mentioned in John 8:17-18??? How can one ignore the Law of 2 Men being mentioned by Lord Yahushua???
Conclusion:
The New Testament completes the Old Testament and it should be interpreted in such a way that the revelation of the Godhead is made clear to be 3 Persons by Matthew 28:19, John 14:26, John 15:26 and John 16:15.
Let Scriptures interpret scripture!!!
John 8:17 And in your law it is written, that the testimony of two persons is certain.
John 8:18 I am one who bear witness of myself, and my Father who sent me, beareth witness of me.
John 8:19 They say to him: Where is thy Father? Jesus replied, and said to them: Ye neither know me nor my Father. If ye had known me, ye would also have known my Father.
Whoever believes that Yahushua is the Father is totally WRONG as The Word of Yahushua refutes and exposes the liars by virtue of
John 8:18 I am one who bear witness of myself, and my Father who sent me, beareth witness of me.
Another Proof of Elohim is more than One Person is based on Psalms 110:1
Psa 110:1 YHWH said unto My LORD: Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Mark 12:35 And Yahushua answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that the Messiah is the Son of David?
Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit, YHWH said to "MY LORD", Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Mark 12:37 David therefore himself calleth Him "LORD"; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.
By virtue of Mark 12:36, there are 4 Persons involved namely Prophet David, the Holy Spirit, Yahuwah (Father) and LORD (Messiah). If the Holy Spirit is just the Power of the Father Yahuwah, why the Holy Spirit is used in Mark 12:36? If the Father is also the Son, why Yahushua declared 2 Persons or 2 men in John 8:17-18?
Any person who believe in the Doctrine of Oneness have breached the Commandments or Doctrine of Lord Yahushua.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of the Messiah, hath not Elohim. He that abideth in the doctrine of the Messiah, he hath BOTH the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him peace:
By virtue of 2 John 1:19 Both the Father and the Son means 2 Persons; it can never mean One Person.
Deut 6:4 was spoken by Prophet Moses in Hebrew and not in English today. So we go back to Hebrew Text.
Deu 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: YaHuWaH our Elohim is Echad YaHuWaH". Hebrew word "echad" differs from "yachiyd" (only). Echad is plural of persons of the same nature unified as One e.g., "I and My Father are Echad" in Jn 10:30.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one (echad) Flesh.
Echad has dual meaning for numerical One and united as One. English Oxford Dictionary defines "ONE" to mean "the Same; Identical" as well as amongst other meanings.
When Prophet Moses was speaking Deut 6:4, Yahuwah had not revealed three Divine Persons to him but Abraham had been visited by Three Divine Persons called Angels whom Abraham called "Adonay" for LORD.
Gen 18:1 And YHWH appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Gen 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Gen 18:3 And said, YHWH, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
Note: When Abraham prostrated to the ground before the 3 Men transformed from Angels, he could not possibly call one of them "Adonay" (LORD) but three of them at the same time.
These 3 Men talked in unison to Abraham at the same time which we called Trinity or Three-in-unity.
Gen 18:9 And they said unto him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
In view of the facts that Prophet Moses wrote the Book of Genesis and Exodus, his choice of word "Echad" for union of man and his wife as Echad Flesh and Echad Yahuwah both implies plurality of persons united as One. Man and Woman are still 2 persons after marriage but they are One Spirit in term of Spiritual Union.
In John 10:30 Yahushua says "I and My Father are Echad" which is deduced from the same Greek word "Heis" used in John 10:30 and Mark 12:29, and then compared to Deut 6:4.
Echad means plural of persons or things of the same nature unified as ONE. When Hebrew word "echad" is translated to "ONE", it is not an indivisible ONE. Hebrew's root word for "echad" reveals plurality of persons or things. For instance, ribs are inside the man are plural of the same nature. Woman is created from echad rib taken out of Adam. Yahushua is echad Spirit came out of the Father Yahuwah. That is why Yahushua said" I and My Father are echad" in John 10:30 was understood by the Jews of the time of Yahushua as united as One Spirit which is blasphemy vide John 10:30-33.
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from Elohim.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. (RNKJV)
Note: Read carefully I leave the world and go to the Father. If Yahushua is the Father, why was He using redundant title Father. Should John 16:28 be rephrased to read as below?
John 16:28 I came forth from Me (the Father), and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to Myself ( the Father)???
How about 2 Person or 2 Men being mentioned in John 8:17-18??? How can one ignore the Law of 2 Men being mentioned by Lord Yahushua???
Conclusion:
The New Testament completes the Old Testament and it should be interpreted in such a way that the revelation of the Godhead is made clear to be 3 Persons by Matthew 28:19, John 14:26, John 15:26 and John 16:15.
Let Scriptures interpret scripture!!!
Friday, July 20, 2012
Common Comments for Christians to be posted at Youtube for Muslims to respond
You are a faithless person. Here Yahushua says "I am God" John 10:30
"I and the Father are one." Yahushua meant I am God as My Father is
God and we are One.
The Jews understood His idiom but you are faithless cannot understand
even Arabic needless to say Hebrew idiom,
John 10:31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him.
Yahushua says:
Mat_13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing
they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
Luk_8:10 He said, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of
the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that
'seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.'
Muslims are blind and deaf people on earth as Lucifer is your best
friend and he will send you to Hell with him. You are on your trip of
no return to Hell forever!
Are you sure your Allah can open the closed seal???
Yahuwah in Revelation 22:18-19 has closed the Book of Prophecy with 2
curses from Him to whoever breaks the SEAL. So who can break it and
add Quran as the Word of God???
What does Quran 3:3 say? Allah is contradicting with Rev 22:18-19
which means Allah is a false god called Lucifer aka Iblis the avowed
enemy of Yahuwah Elohim. So you handle a book which is cursed by YHWH.
While Yahushua accomplished His salvation plan at the Cross, the New
Covenant Laws ended by the Book of Revelation written around AD95 by
Apostle John from the vision through the Holy Spirit, after the martyr
of Paul around AD67. Yahuwah in Revelation 22:18-19 has closed the
Book of Prophecy with 2 curses from Him to whoever breaks the SEAL. So
who can break it and add Quran as the Word of God???
God has CURSED IDOLATERS who lie Spirit of Truth is Prophet. Rev
22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, YHWH
shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if
any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
YHWH shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the
holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Quran is FAKE!
The Council of Jerusalem held around AD50 was to resolve the question
on circumcision and enforcement of the Law of Moses to Gentile
Christians. Apostles James brother of Lord Yahushua presided over the
meeting and after hearing the debates from Prophet Paul and Barnabas,
and Apostle Peter, it was resolved by Acts 15:1-29. Apostle James says
if you keep the whole Law but break one, you are guilty under the Law!
So how to become righteous under the Law???
Polygamy is abolished by Yahushua under the New Covenant who advocates
one-flesh marriage. Why Muslims practise polygamy which is idolatry?
Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Set-apart Spirit, and to us, to
lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and
from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep
yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Apostle James who presided the Council of Jerusalem based on the
Doctrine of Grace of the New Covenant of Yahushua and not by the Law
of Moses.
James 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are
convinced of the law as transgressors.
2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one
point, he is guilty of all.
Revelation 22:18-19 has closed the Book of Prophecy with 2 curses from
God to whoever breaks the SEAL. So who can break it???
Messiah Yahushua has superseded the Law of Moses by His Gospel of Love
not by outward righteousness but inwardly in your heart.
Luke 16:15 And He (Yahushua) said unto them, "Ye are they which
justify yourselves before men; but YHWH knoweth your hearts: for that
which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of
YHWH.
Luke 16:16 The Law and the prophets were UNTIL John: Since that time the
(Gospel) kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle
of the law to fail.
16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another,
committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from
her husband committeth adultery.
God has CURSED IDOLATERS who lie Holy Spirit is Prophet as prophecy is
closed by AD95. Rev 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that
heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add
unto these things, YHWH shall add unto him the plagues that are
written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, YHWH shall take away his part out of the
book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are
written in this book."
Quran is FAKE!
Why are You compromising the sacred Name of YHWH in the Hebrew Torah
to become Allah in your Quran? Do you know that pagan Arabs called God
as ilah in Arabic? Elah in Aramaic and Eloah in Hebrew are the Title
for Supreme Being who is self-existent and eternal. Muhammad's father
Abdul Allah was carrying a pagan god's name. Yehoshua NetanYahu
EliYahu carries the Sacred Name of Eloah.
Muhammad's father Abdul Allah (slave of Allah) was carrying a pagan
god's name. Yehoshua NetanYahu EliYahu carries the Sacred Name of
Eloah. Can You prove to us that when Yahuwah really speak to a pagan
man in Arabia? He would introduce himself "I am YHWH Elohim of
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I come to bring you the scripture in my new
name Allah". Why there is no such link in the Quran???
God has CURSED IDOLATERS who lie Spirit of Truth is Prophet. Rev
22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, YHWH
shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if
any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
YHWH shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the
holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Quran is FAKE!
If you follow the logic of Bro. Abdoo ex-muslim lawyer then you will
accept that the Book of Revelation written around AD95 after Paul was
martyred around AD67 by Emperor Nero, to be final. To refuse the
guidance and light in the Book of the Gospel mentioned by Quran 5:47
which is from Muhammad makes you not only a liar but cursed by GOD for
punishment in HELL. Can You reverse the spoken word of God in Rev
22:18-19 to after Quran???
You have to bear in mind that Yahuwah Elohim is no respecter of
persons. Quran 3:3 says He had revealed the Torah and the Gospel is
the same person He who reveals the Quran according to Muhammad. So why
YOU accuse Allah to permit the Gospel to be corrupted when He says of
CONFIRMING in Quran 3:3? Do not argue void of logic, OK?
Why would Yahuwah Elohim favour Arab when He had chosen Yahushua and
Hebrews above all peoples on earth??? I ask you to produce the
genealogy of Muhammad to prove his true identity with Ishmael or
Isaac. If you cannot produce proof, please keep your mouth shut about
Torah and Gospel's change whatever. Can you explain to us why
Confirming in Quran 3:3 when it should read correcting the Gospel if
it had been corrupt, right or not???
Please produce the proof that Muhammad came from the direct lineage of
Ishmael by show of verse from the Quran.
Can you read Quran 3:3 and 81 which has the word CONFIRMING in present
continuous tense??? Just ask any English Teacher is the Torah and the
Gospel must be still True at the time of Muhammad??? It means those
earlier scriptures must be still true today. If not, the Quran 3:3 is
False and Muhammad is a False Prophet!
Please produce the proof that Muhammad came from the direct lineage of
Ishmael by show of verse from the Quran. He who fails to identify
himself properly is a false prophet. Car ownership has Registration
logbook, Proof of citizenship has Birth Long Form. Land Ownership has
Land Title or Deed. Where is the document to prove Muhammad's lineage
with Ishmael??? O Faithless support of the father of lies!
O hypocrite, Muslims are eating camel meat which is classified as
unclean food under the Torah.
Muslims always find faults with Christians for eating pork and other
unclean foods under the Old Testament. Camel was forbidden in the Old
testament. So was rabbit. Yet they are only imitating some laws of
Moses. Yahushua came to give grace and truth under the New Covenant.
Those prefer under Old Covenant have to follow all laws and not
partially.
Messiah Yahushua said David spoke in Spirit about His Master was told
by Yahuwah to sit at His Right Hand. Written around 970BC. Psalms
110:1 "YHWH said unto My Master, Sit thou at my right hand, until I
make thine Enemies thy footstool."
King David called Him "Master" in Hebrew is Adonay used only for
Yahuwah Elohim. So Yahushua is the partner who sits beside His Father
Yahuwah. I rather believe Prophet David than an Arab illiterate!
The divine position of Yahushua is decided by His Father and not by
YOU. In John 10:36 Yahushua says His Father sanctified or setapart for
HiM to be called the Son of Elohim. Yahushua is accorded the status of
Elohim out of respect by His Father Yahuwah. Yahushua was and is
Elohim; He was a man for less than 34 years temporarily only.
In heavens and on earth, all things have name. There is Elohim for
Angels and Yahuwah. Satan for Devil and his demons. Mankind for Adam
and Eve and their sons. Then animals and creatures. As Yahushua came
down from Heaven which He says men are from this world while He came
from above, He cannot be classified merely human being. Yahuwah has
named Him as The Son of Elohim which is the same status as Elohim but
not the Father Elohim.
Yahushua says He is One Spirit with His Father.
John 10:30 I and my Father are One.
John 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Jews understood the Hebrew idiom "I and My Father Are One Spirit."
Yahushua elaborated further in John 10:38 "the Father is IN ME and I
IN HIM" which is an idiom to mean ONE Spirit.
Father is Spirit which in Greek is pneuma. Yahushua has Spirit which
came from set-apart Spirit. Wind is pneuma and breath is pneuma like
an oxygen gas. When you mix Oxygen gas fumed Yellow with oxygen gas
fumed Blue in a gas chamber. Are these oxygen gases still mixed as One
Gas??? Oxygen gas fumed with Yellow is IN the Oxygen gas fumed with
Blue. It is also true Blue Gas is in the Yellow Gas as they are
intertwined as ONE.
Yahushua said David spoke in Spirit about His Master being told to sit
at His Right Hand.
Psalms 110:1 "YHWH said unto My Master, Sit thou at my right hand,
until I make thine Enemies thy footstool."
King David called Him "Master" in Hebrew is Adonay used only for
Yahuwah Elohim. Yahushua said He was the Master spoken by David. So
Yahushua is the Mighty One.
David spoke in Spirit, saying:
Psalms 2:6 "YET have I set My king upon My set-apart Hill of Zion.
2:7 I will declare the decree: YHWH hath said unto Me, 'Thou art My
Son; this day have I begotten thee'."
Yahuwah spoke to Yahushua as He was yet to come as a King in Jerusalem
but He was called the Son and chosen as the King. David was already
installed king in Jerusalem so it was not him.
Yahushua says His Father is He whom the Jews worship as Elohim - John 8:54
Yahushua says "I and My Father are One" John 10:30. The Jews
understood that He claimed to be Elohim and tried to stone Him.
Yahushua said "I am the Son of Elohim" in John 10:36 when Psalms 2:7
Yahuwah has said to Me "Thou are My Son" is referring to Him. Yahuwah
is His Personal Father "My Father".
Yahushua says "I and My Father are One" John 10:30 means they act in
one accord, one Mind, One thought, One Will and so on.
Jn 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them;
even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
Jn 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment
unto the Son:
Jn 5:23 That ALL Men should honour the Son, even as they honour the
Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which
hath sent him.
Jn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and
believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not
come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Muhammad says Quran 29:46 to Muslims: And argue not with the People of
the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such
of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been
revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is
ONE(the same), and unto Him (same) we surrender. S. 29:46 Pickthall
To the People of the Scripture, Say: Dispute ye with us concerning
Allah when He is our Lord and your Lord? Ours are our works and yours
your works. We look to Him alone. S. 2:139 Pickthall
Muhammad says to idolaters or to Christians and Jews, they do not
worship the same Being.
Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship
ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye
worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your
religion, and unto me my religion. S. 109:1-6 Pickthall
Muhammad strongly believed in one Allah. So what do pagan worship?:
"And if thou ask them, 'Who has created the heavens and the earth?'
They will, surely, answer, 'ALLAH.' Say, 'All praise belongs to
ALLAH.' But most of them have no knowledge. S. 31:25 Sher Ali
Muhammad said that Jews and Christians worship the same Allah in
S24:96. The pagans and idolaters also worshipped Allah, despite
worshipping a host of other gods as stated in S39:3. Then how can
Surah 109:1-6 claim that the unbelievers were NOT worshipping that
which Muhammad worshipped? This is a clear contradiction!!!
Muhammad claims that Christians worshipped the same God:
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians,
and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does
good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no
fear for them, nor shall they grieve. S. 2:62 Shakir
Pure Religion is for Allah only and not for men who needs mediators or
friends beside YAH! "Surely pure religion is for Allah only. And those
who choose protecting friends (partners) beside Him (say): We worship
them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge
between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guideth
not him who is a liar, an ingrate." S. 39:3
Muhammad recited and agreed that "Those who ascribes Allah has a son
or sons are only intermediaries/intercessors for the purpose of
bringing them near to Allah! Thus, Allah was not just one of their
many gods, but he was the main and highest one of all their gods"
based on Q 39:3.
In fact, the very name of the worst sin in Islam, SHIRK, means
"association". Associating what (other gods) with WHOM? With Allah of
course! The very name of this sin would not make sense if their gods
were all distinct from Allah. It presupposes that Allah is one of
their gods based on Quran 39:3
Bible does not confirm the Quran. The latter book Quran confirms the
Bible because Muhammad is STEALING from earlier books. The logic is IF
NO STEALING, WHAT TO CONFIRM?
Quran 3:3 (Pickthal) "He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the
Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it,
even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel."
Quran 5:47 (Pickthal) "Let the People of the Gospel judge by that
which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which
Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers."
Muhammad commands Christians to follow the Aramaic Bible because it is
PURE and TRUE. If the Bible is corrupt, then Muhammad who commands to
follow a corrupted book, must be a false prophet.
Yahushua taught us to take every Word of Yahuwah, not Quran, as daily
bread. Do Muslims obey Yahushua?
Matt 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son
of Elohim, command that these stones be made bread.
Yahushua every Word that comes from the mouth of Yahuwah must be taken
daily as it is not enough to take food alone.
Matt 4:4 But he (Yahushua) answered and said, It is written, Man shall
not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the
mouth of YHWH.
Hear O Muslims, there is Power in the Blood of Yahuwshua. Some day You
may encounter the Devil and You can call out allah if he can help You.
If not, You can call out aloud "O Blood of Yahuwshua covers Me" and
see if Demons and Devil will flee from You! Test it Yourself and see
if I am speaking the truth. Keep My words in Your Heart and one day
God will allow You to see the Power of the Blood of Yahuwshua!
Yahuwshua says:
Jn 6:27 "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat
which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of Man shall give
unto you: for Him hath Elohim the Father sealed.
6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the
works of Elohim?
6:29 Yahushua answered and said unto them, This is the work of Elohim,
that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Jn 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then,
that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He
gave them bread from heaven to eat.
Jn 6:32 Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you
the true bread from heaven.
6:33 For the bread of Elohim is he which cometh down from Heaven, and
giveth life unto the world.
Yahushua says:
Jn 6:38 "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the
will of him that sent me.
6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all
which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up
again at the last day.
*Yahuwshua says nothing about His Position in Heaven in John 5:30. He
elaborated His mission in other verses collectively. Can Muhammad
raise himself from Hell???
Jn 6:40 "And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one
which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life:
and I will raise him up at the last Day.
Matt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Yahushua cried with a loud voice,
saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My Power, my
Power, why hast thou forsaken Me?
Note: "El" in Hebrew means Power and suffix "i" means "My".
He who is of Yahuwah has seen His Father not any man can see Yahuwah.
If Yahuwah has not granted His permission no Angel can manifest to a
man. Angels are only sent to the sons of ISAAC as in Him shall the
seed be Named. All false claims shall be EXPOSED by Spirit of Yahuwah
working through this channel! Yahuwah means Self-existing and Eternal
One.
Christians do not worship Jesus but God alone. Jesus says I and My
Father are One in John 10:30 so when they call on Jesus, they mean for
Yahuwah only who is the source of all and worthy of all worship. In
John 5:23 Jesus and Yahuwah both deserve equal honour. So it can be
mistaken; God can forgive all errors. I wonder which eyes of Muslims
see Christians worship a man Jesus! He is alive in Heaven as Elohim.
Even when they say I love You Jesus, they mean for Yahuwah as they are
One Spirit. It is amazing but true!
TORAH/Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she (Sarah) said unto Abraham, "Cast out
this bondwoman and her son (Ishmael): for the son of this bondwoman
shall NOT be HEIR with my son, even with ISAAC."
Ishmael is Not a Heir with ISAAC means nothing from ISAAC onwards can
be SHARED. Thus all Hebrews Names must be removed from Quran by the
Decree in the TORAH/Genesis 21:10.
This CURSE to Ishmael bears no prophet until today.
In Genesis 17:20 Hebrew goy means pagan or gentile.
The revocation of Ishmael's birthright is solemnized by Abraham who
sent both Hagar and Ishmael away to the desert land in Beersheba vide
Genesis 21:14.
Isaac and Jacob aka Israel and their offsprings are prophets forever
vide Quran 29:27 while Ishmael and his sons are Gentiles or pagans
forever vide Genesis 17:20 as Hebrew goy means pagan or gentile.
Torah/ Genesis
17:19 And Elohim said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed;
and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant
with him for an Everlasting Covenant, and with his seed after him.
Gen 17:21 BUT My (Everlasting) Covenant will I establish with Isaac,
which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
The son without Everlasting Covenant has no promise to be granted the
land of Israel and no everlasting promise to be Elohim to their
descendants. That is the destiny of Ishmael and his sons. In short,
the Arabs are Not given any scripture and no warner vide Quran 34:44
Jer 14:14 Then YHWH said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my
name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake
unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a
thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
Prophet Jeremiah was speaking of the lies from false prophets who are
not circumcised on the 8th day from birth and asked people to worship
pagan gods like Alah in Hebrew for CURSE and Allah in Hebrew for OAK.
Elah in Aramaic is not spoken by YHWH.
Quran 29:27 revokes Muhammad of prophethood!
"I and the Father are one." Yahushua meant I am God as My Father is
God and we are One.
The Jews understood His idiom but you are faithless cannot understand
even Arabic needless to say Hebrew idiom,
John 10:31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him.
Yahushua says:
Mat_13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing
they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
Luk_8:10 He said, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of
the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that
'seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.'
Muslims are blind and deaf people on earth as Lucifer is your best
friend and he will send you to Hell with him. You are on your trip of
no return to Hell forever!
Are you sure your Allah can open the closed seal???
Yahuwah in Revelation 22:18-19 has closed the Book of Prophecy with 2
curses from Him to whoever breaks the SEAL. So who can break it and
add Quran as the Word of God???
What does Quran 3:3 say? Allah is contradicting with Rev 22:18-19
which means Allah is a false god called Lucifer aka Iblis the avowed
enemy of Yahuwah Elohim. So you handle a book which is cursed by YHWH.
While Yahushua accomplished His salvation plan at the Cross, the New
Covenant Laws ended by the Book of Revelation written around AD95 by
Apostle John from the vision through the Holy Spirit, after the martyr
of Paul around AD67. Yahuwah in Revelation 22:18-19 has closed the
Book of Prophecy with 2 curses from Him to whoever breaks the SEAL. So
who can break it and add Quran as the Word of God???
God has CURSED IDOLATERS who lie Spirit of Truth is Prophet. Rev
22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, YHWH
shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if
any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
YHWH shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the
holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Quran is FAKE!
The Council of Jerusalem held around AD50 was to resolve the question
on circumcision and enforcement of the Law of Moses to Gentile
Christians. Apostles James brother of Lord Yahushua presided over the
meeting and after hearing the debates from Prophet Paul and Barnabas,
and Apostle Peter, it was resolved by Acts 15:1-29. Apostle James says
if you keep the whole Law but break one, you are guilty under the Law!
So how to become righteous under the Law???
Polygamy is abolished by Yahushua under the New Covenant who advocates
one-flesh marriage. Why Muslims practise polygamy which is idolatry?
Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Set-apart Spirit, and to us, to
lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and
from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep
yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Apostle James who presided the Council of Jerusalem based on the
Doctrine of Grace of the New Covenant of Yahushua and not by the Law
of Moses.
James 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are
convinced of the law as transgressors.
2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one
point, he is guilty of all.
Revelation 22:18-19 has closed the Book of Prophecy with 2 curses from
God to whoever breaks the SEAL. So who can break it???
Messiah Yahushua has superseded the Law of Moses by His Gospel of Love
not by outward righteousness but inwardly in your heart.
Luke 16:15 And He (Yahushua) said unto them, "Ye are they which
justify yourselves before men; but YHWH knoweth your hearts: for that
which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of
YHWH.
Luke 16:16 The Law and the prophets were UNTIL John: Since that time the
(Gospel) kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle
of the law to fail.
16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another,
committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from
her husband committeth adultery.
God has CURSED IDOLATERS who lie Holy Spirit is Prophet as prophecy is
closed by AD95. Rev 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that
heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add
unto these things, YHWH shall add unto him the plagues that are
written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of
the book of this prophecy, YHWH shall take away his part out of the
book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are
written in this book."
Quran is FAKE!
Why are You compromising the sacred Name of YHWH in the Hebrew Torah
to become Allah in your Quran? Do you know that pagan Arabs called God
as ilah in Arabic? Elah in Aramaic and Eloah in Hebrew are the Title
for Supreme Being who is self-existent and eternal. Muhammad's father
Abdul Allah was carrying a pagan god's name. Yehoshua NetanYahu
EliYahu carries the Sacred Name of Eloah.
Muhammad's father Abdul Allah (slave of Allah) was carrying a pagan
god's name. Yehoshua NetanYahu EliYahu carries the Sacred Name of
Eloah. Can You prove to us that when Yahuwah really speak to a pagan
man in Arabia? He would introduce himself "I am YHWH Elohim of
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I come to bring you the scripture in my new
name Allah". Why there is no such link in the Quran???
God has CURSED IDOLATERS who lie Spirit of Truth is Prophet. Rev
22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, YHWH
shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if
any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
YHWH shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the
holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Quran is FAKE!
If you follow the logic of Bro. Abdoo ex-muslim lawyer then you will
accept that the Book of Revelation written around AD95 after Paul was
martyred around AD67 by Emperor Nero, to be final. To refuse the
guidance and light in the Book of the Gospel mentioned by Quran 5:47
which is from Muhammad makes you not only a liar but cursed by GOD for
punishment in HELL. Can You reverse the spoken word of God in Rev
22:18-19 to after Quran???
You have to bear in mind that Yahuwah Elohim is no respecter of
persons. Quran 3:3 says He had revealed the Torah and the Gospel is
the same person He who reveals the Quran according to Muhammad. So why
YOU accuse Allah to permit the Gospel to be corrupted when He says of
CONFIRMING in Quran 3:3? Do not argue void of logic, OK?
Why would Yahuwah Elohim favour Arab when He had chosen Yahushua and
Hebrews above all peoples on earth??? I ask you to produce the
genealogy of Muhammad to prove his true identity with Ishmael or
Isaac. If you cannot produce proof, please keep your mouth shut about
Torah and Gospel's change whatever. Can you explain to us why
Confirming in Quran 3:3 when it should read correcting the Gospel if
it had been corrupt, right or not???
Please produce the proof that Muhammad came from the direct lineage of
Ishmael by show of verse from the Quran.
Can you read Quran 3:3 and 81 which has the word CONFIRMING in present
continuous tense??? Just ask any English Teacher is the Torah and the
Gospel must be still True at the time of Muhammad??? It means those
earlier scriptures must be still true today. If not, the Quran 3:3 is
False and Muhammad is a False Prophet!
Please produce the proof that Muhammad came from the direct lineage of
Ishmael by show of verse from the Quran. He who fails to identify
himself properly is a false prophet. Car ownership has Registration
logbook, Proof of citizenship has Birth Long Form. Land Ownership has
Land Title or Deed. Where is the document to prove Muhammad's lineage
with Ishmael??? O Faithless support of the father of lies!
O hypocrite, Muslims are eating camel meat which is classified as
unclean food under the Torah.
Muslims always find faults with Christians for eating pork and other
unclean foods under the Old Testament. Camel was forbidden in the Old
testament. So was rabbit. Yet they are only imitating some laws of
Moses. Yahushua came to give grace and truth under the New Covenant.
Those prefer under Old Covenant have to follow all laws and not
partially.
Messiah Yahushua said David spoke in Spirit about His Master was told
by Yahuwah to sit at His Right Hand. Written around 970BC. Psalms
110:1 "YHWH said unto My Master, Sit thou at my right hand, until I
make thine Enemies thy footstool."
King David called Him "Master" in Hebrew is Adonay used only for
Yahuwah Elohim. So Yahushua is the partner who sits beside His Father
Yahuwah. I rather believe Prophet David than an Arab illiterate!
The divine position of Yahushua is decided by His Father and not by
YOU. In John 10:36 Yahushua says His Father sanctified or setapart for
HiM to be called the Son of Elohim. Yahushua is accorded the status of
Elohim out of respect by His Father Yahuwah. Yahushua was and is
Elohim; He was a man for less than 34 years temporarily only.
In heavens and on earth, all things have name. There is Elohim for
Angels and Yahuwah. Satan for Devil and his demons. Mankind for Adam
and Eve and their sons. Then animals and creatures. As Yahushua came
down from Heaven which He says men are from this world while He came
from above, He cannot be classified merely human being. Yahuwah has
named Him as The Son of Elohim which is the same status as Elohim but
not the Father Elohim.
Yahushua says He is One Spirit with His Father.
John 10:30 I and my Father are One.
John 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Jews understood the Hebrew idiom "I and My Father Are One Spirit."
Yahushua elaborated further in John 10:38 "the Father is IN ME and I
IN HIM" which is an idiom to mean ONE Spirit.
Father is Spirit which in Greek is pneuma. Yahushua has Spirit which
came from set-apart Spirit. Wind is pneuma and breath is pneuma like
an oxygen gas. When you mix Oxygen gas fumed Yellow with oxygen gas
fumed Blue in a gas chamber. Are these oxygen gases still mixed as One
Gas??? Oxygen gas fumed with Yellow is IN the Oxygen gas fumed with
Blue. It is also true Blue Gas is in the Yellow Gas as they are
intertwined as ONE.
Yahushua said David spoke in Spirit about His Master being told to sit
at His Right Hand.
Psalms 110:1 "YHWH said unto My Master, Sit thou at my right hand,
until I make thine Enemies thy footstool."
King David called Him "Master" in Hebrew is Adonay used only for
Yahuwah Elohim. Yahushua said He was the Master spoken by David. So
Yahushua is the Mighty One.
David spoke in Spirit, saying:
Psalms 2:6 "YET have I set My king upon My set-apart Hill of Zion.
2:7 I will declare the decree: YHWH hath said unto Me, 'Thou art My
Son; this day have I begotten thee'."
Yahuwah spoke to Yahushua as He was yet to come as a King in Jerusalem
but He was called the Son and chosen as the King. David was already
installed king in Jerusalem so it was not him.
Yahushua says His Father is He whom the Jews worship as Elohim - John 8:54
Yahushua says "I and My Father are One" John 10:30. The Jews
understood that He claimed to be Elohim and tried to stone Him.
Yahushua said "I am the Son of Elohim" in John 10:36 when Psalms 2:7
Yahuwah has said to Me "Thou are My Son" is referring to Him. Yahuwah
is His Personal Father "My Father".
Yahushua says "I and My Father are One" John 10:30 means they act in
one accord, one Mind, One thought, One Will and so on.
Jn 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them;
even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
Jn 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment
unto the Son:
Jn 5:23 That ALL Men should honour the Son, even as they honour the
Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which
hath sent him.
Jn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and
believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not
come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Muhammad says Quran 29:46 to Muslims: And argue not with the People of
the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such
of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been
revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is
ONE(the same), and unto Him (same) we surrender. S. 29:46 Pickthall
To the People of the Scripture, Say: Dispute ye with us concerning
Allah when He is our Lord and your Lord? Ours are our works and yours
your works. We look to Him alone. S. 2:139 Pickthall
Muhammad says to idolaters or to Christians and Jews, they do not
worship the same Being.
Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship
ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye
worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your
religion, and unto me my religion. S. 109:1-6 Pickthall
Muhammad strongly believed in one Allah. So what do pagan worship?:
"And if thou ask them, 'Who has created the heavens and the earth?'
They will, surely, answer, 'ALLAH.' Say, 'All praise belongs to
ALLAH.' But most of them have no knowledge. S. 31:25 Sher Ali
Muhammad said that Jews and Christians worship the same Allah in
S24:96. The pagans and idolaters also worshipped Allah, despite
worshipping a host of other gods as stated in S39:3. Then how can
Surah 109:1-6 claim that the unbelievers were NOT worshipping that
which Muhammad worshipped? This is a clear contradiction!!!
Muhammad claims that Christians worshipped the same God:
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians,
and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does
good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no
fear for them, nor shall they grieve. S. 2:62 Shakir
Pure Religion is for Allah only and not for men who needs mediators or
friends beside YAH! "Surely pure religion is for Allah only. And those
who choose protecting friends (partners) beside Him (say): We worship
them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge
between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guideth
not him who is a liar, an ingrate." S. 39:3
Muhammad recited and agreed that "Those who ascribes Allah has a son
or sons are only intermediaries/intercessors for the purpose of
bringing them near to Allah! Thus, Allah was not just one of their
many gods, but he was the main and highest one of all their gods"
based on Q 39:3.
In fact, the very name of the worst sin in Islam, SHIRK, means
"association". Associating what (other gods) with WHOM? With Allah of
course! The very name of this sin would not make sense if their gods
were all distinct from Allah. It presupposes that Allah is one of
their gods based on Quran 39:3
Bible does not confirm the Quran. The latter book Quran confirms the
Bible because Muhammad is STEALING from earlier books. The logic is IF
NO STEALING, WHAT TO CONFIRM?
Quran 3:3 (Pickthal) "He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the
Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it,
even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel."
Quran 5:47 (Pickthal) "Let the People of the Gospel judge by that
which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which
Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers."
Muhammad commands Christians to follow the Aramaic Bible because it is
PURE and TRUE. If the Bible is corrupt, then Muhammad who commands to
follow a corrupted book, must be a false prophet.
Yahushua taught us to take every Word of Yahuwah, not Quran, as daily
bread. Do Muslims obey Yahushua?
Matt 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son
of Elohim, command that these stones be made bread.
Yahushua every Word that comes from the mouth of Yahuwah must be taken
daily as it is not enough to take food alone.
Matt 4:4 But he (Yahushua) answered and said, It is written, Man shall
not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the
mouth of YHWH.
Hear O Muslims, there is Power in the Blood of Yahuwshua. Some day You
may encounter the Devil and You can call out allah if he can help You.
If not, You can call out aloud "O Blood of Yahuwshua covers Me" and
see if Demons and Devil will flee from You! Test it Yourself and see
if I am speaking the truth. Keep My words in Your Heart and one day
God will allow You to see the Power of the Blood of Yahuwshua!
Yahuwshua says:
Jn 6:27 "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat
which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of Man shall give
unto you: for Him hath Elohim the Father sealed.
6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the
works of Elohim?
6:29 Yahushua answered and said unto them, This is the work of Elohim,
that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Jn 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then,
that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He
gave them bread from heaven to eat.
Jn 6:32 Then Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you
the true bread from heaven.
6:33 For the bread of Elohim is he which cometh down from Heaven, and
giveth life unto the world.
Yahushua says:
Jn 6:38 "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the
will of him that sent me.
6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all
which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up
again at the last day.
*Yahuwshua says nothing about His Position in Heaven in John 5:30. He
elaborated His mission in other verses collectively. Can Muhammad
raise himself from Hell???
Jn 6:40 "And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one
which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life:
and I will raise him up at the last Day.
Matt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Yahushua cried with a loud voice,
saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My Power, my
Power, why hast thou forsaken Me?
Note: "El" in Hebrew means Power and suffix "i" means "My".
He who is of Yahuwah has seen His Father not any man can see Yahuwah.
If Yahuwah has not granted His permission no Angel can manifest to a
man. Angels are only sent to the sons of ISAAC as in Him shall the
seed be Named. All false claims shall be EXPOSED by Spirit of Yahuwah
working through this channel! Yahuwah means Self-existing and Eternal
One.
Christians do not worship Jesus but God alone. Jesus says I and My
Father are One in John 10:30 so when they call on Jesus, they mean for
Yahuwah only who is the source of all and worthy of all worship. In
John 5:23 Jesus and Yahuwah both deserve equal honour. So it can be
mistaken; God can forgive all errors. I wonder which eyes of Muslims
see Christians worship a man Jesus! He is alive in Heaven as Elohim.
Even when they say I love You Jesus, they mean for Yahuwah as they are
One Spirit. It is amazing but true!
TORAH/Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she (Sarah) said unto Abraham, "Cast out
this bondwoman and her son (Ishmael): for the son of this bondwoman
shall NOT be HEIR with my son, even with ISAAC."
Ishmael is Not a Heir with ISAAC means nothing from ISAAC onwards can
be SHARED. Thus all Hebrews Names must be removed from Quran by the
Decree in the TORAH/Genesis 21:10.
This CURSE to Ishmael bears no prophet until today.
In Genesis 17:20 Hebrew goy means pagan or gentile.
The revocation of Ishmael's birthright is solemnized by Abraham who
sent both Hagar and Ishmael away to the desert land in Beersheba vide
Genesis 21:14.
Isaac and Jacob aka Israel and their offsprings are prophets forever
vide Quran 29:27 while Ishmael and his sons are Gentiles or pagans
forever vide Genesis 17:20 as Hebrew goy means pagan or gentile.
Torah/ Genesis
17:19 And Elohim said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed;
and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant
with him for an Everlasting Covenant, and with his seed after him.
Gen 17:21 BUT My (Everlasting) Covenant will I establish with Isaac,
which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
The son without Everlasting Covenant has no promise to be granted the
land of Israel and no everlasting promise to be Elohim to their
descendants. That is the destiny of Ishmael and his sons. In short,
the Arabs are Not given any scripture and no warner vide Quran 34:44
Jer 14:14 Then YHWH said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my
name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake
unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a
thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
Prophet Jeremiah was speaking of the lies from false prophets who are
not circumcised on the 8th day from birth and asked people to worship
pagan gods like Alah in Hebrew for CURSE and Allah in Hebrew for OAK.
Elah in Aramaic is not spoken by YHWH.
Quran 29:27 revokes Muhammad of prophethood!
Saturday, December 3, 2011
Muslims accused Christians are praying to a fake jesus god who came out of a vagina
ALL Muslims do it every day - i.e. Praying TOWARDS a Metal Vagina-shaped Black Stone embedded at the side of the Kaaba in Mecca. Muslims call it praying towards the Kaaba for strength and unity but this does not refute the paganism and idolatry of such practices. Abraham never did it! The Jews & Christians do not practise it!
For an example:
[QUOTE] Donster, positron66 and other christians agree and accept christians are praying to a fake jesus god who came out of a vagina ! [END QUOTE]
REFUTED by YAHUSHUA (Jesus)
John 8:23 And he (Yahushua) said unto them, "Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
WHERE did Positron agree with WTA that praying to Yahushua is the commandment of Yahushua???
Christians are taught by Yahushua to pray to His Father in the Name of Yahushua. Yahushua never ask people to pray to Him directly nor it is agreed by Positron any where in this forum.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from Elohim.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
Bear in mind, there is no explicit verse in the Bible that Yahushua came out of Virgin Mary through her vagina. First of all, the conception of Yahushua came by the agent of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary and not through her vagina. Likewise the birth of Yahushua could be similar to cesarean birth by the work of the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of YHWH.
Luke 2:6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
Now for a baby delivered by cesarean birth, is it not called "she brought forth her son"??? Before man knows about Cedarean birth, God knows it first. It is natural to believe Mary gave birth through her vagina but this does not discredit the pre-existence of Yahushua with His Father in Heaven and Yahushua's creation of the whole world by His Power.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHWH, and the Word was YHWH.
John 1:2 The same (Word) was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3 All things were made (created) by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Yahushua was the Creator of the Universe and all things both seen such as mankind and unseen such as angels and spirits.
What does it mean the Trinity God? Is the One God having no Power to delegate His Son and His Holy Spirit to function as God?
The Torah does not say God is ONE but His NAME YAHUWAH IS ONE. Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is One: Exo 15:3 YHWH is a man of war: YHWH is His Name. WHY Muslims say Allah has 99 Names when the Torah says the Name of YHWH is ONE??? It proves Allah is a pagan god.
Yahushua and Yahuwah are the One Elohim.
John 10:30 "I and my Father are One."
John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Any man who honour the Son has also honoured the Father. But any man who claimed to honour the Father without the Son is a liar because the Son said "no man comes to the Father except by ME" John 14:6.
Messiah Yahushua aka Yehoshua said "I AM IN The FATHER and FATHER is in ME" which means the Spirit of YHWH is IN YAHUSHUA. In other words, YAHUSHUA IS YAHUWAH in the SPIRIT.
John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in MY NAME, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Yahushua is Yahuwah Elohim as He said you ASK anything in MY NAME, not in the Name of the Father!!!
John 15:23 He that hateth ME hateth My FATHER also.
John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I WILL SEND unto you from the FATHER (1), even the Spirit of Truth (2), which proceedeth from the FATHER, He shall testify of ME (3)"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit (1), whom the Father (2) will send in my Name (3), he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 16:15 "All things that the Father (1) hath are Mine (2): therefore said I, that He (3) - The Spirit of Truth - shall take of Mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father (1), and of the Son (2), and of the Holy Spirit (3).
All the above verses prove that God is three-in-unity; the One God has 3 characters in Him. God can function as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God manifests Himself in 3 different periods of history.
In the Old Testament, God is known as Yahuwah aka Yehovah who is equivalent to the Father. Then the period of the Son when He was incarnated to become a man on earth for a period of 33.5 years only. Then the period of the Holy Spirit from 33CE until the second coming of Yahushua the Son of Yahuwah God.
The combination of these 3 periods of manifestation of God is the make-up of the 3 characters of God better known as the Trinity God. The Yahuwah God is eternally One and He does not divide into 3 Gods but is always the One God with 3 key-functions: The Father functions as the President in the God-head. The Son functions as the Vice President and the Holy Spirit functions as the Executive Director. This analogy does not make the One God into 3 Gods but the same God has 3 key-functions.
The common misconception about the Trinity God and where Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) came from has long been answered but some Muslims still troll on the same topic indefinitely. Here is a rebuttal to some of the questions posted by Muslim known as WarriorIslamic and answered by a Christian. Click to view the full discussion.
http://positron6.blogspot.com/2011/12/common-misconception-about-trinity-god.html
Yahushua and Yahuwah are the One Elohim.
John 10:30 "I and my Father are One."
John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Any man who honour the Son has also honoured the Father. But any man who claimed to honour the Father without the Son is a liar because the Son said "no man comes to the Father except by ME" John 14:6.
Messiah Yahushua aka Yehoshua said "I AM IN The FATHER and FATHER is in ME" which means the Spirit of YHWH is IN YAHUSHUA. In other words, YAHUSHUA IS YAHUWAH in the SPIRIT.
John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in MY NAME, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Yahushua is Yahuwah Elohim as He said you ASK anything in MY NAME, not in the Name of the Father!!!
John 15:23 He that hateth ME hateth My FATHER also.
John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I WILL SEND unto you from the FATHER (1), even the Spirit of Truth (2), which proceedeth from the FATHER, He shall testify of ME (3)"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit (1), whom the Father (2) will send in my Name (3), he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 16:15 "All things that the Father (1) hath are Mine (2): therefore said I, that He (3) - The Spirit of Truth - shall take of Mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father (1), and of the Son (2), and of the Holy Spirit (3).
All the above verses prove that God is three-in-unity; the One God has 3 characters in Him. God can function as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God manifests Himself in 3 different periods of history.
In the Old Testament, God is known as Yahuwah aka Yehovah who is equivalent to the Father. Then the period of the Son when He was incarnated to become a man on earth for a period of 33.5 years only. Then the period of the Holy Spirit from 33CE until the second coming of Yahushua the Son of Yahuwah God.
The combination of these 3 periods of manifestation of God is the make-up of the 3 characters of God better known as the Trinity God. The Yahuwah God is eternally One and He does not divide into 3 Gods but is always the One God with 3 key-functions: The Father functions as the President in the God-head. The Son functions as the Vice President and the Holy Spirit functions as the Executive Director. This analogy does not make the One God into 3 Gods but the same God has 3 key-functions.
The common misconception about the Trinity God and where Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) came from has long been answered but some Muslims still troll on the same topic indefinitely. Here is a rebuttal to some of the questions posted by Muslim known as WarriorIslamic and answered by a Christian. Click to view the full discussion.
http://positron6.blogspot.com/2011/12/common-misconception-about-trinity-god.html
Quran Proclaims the Prophethood from the lineage of JACOB aka ISRAEL but exclude ISHMAEL the Son of Abraham
Muslims will not listen to the People of the Book even it is advised in the Quran Surah 10:94. At least Muhammad agreed that the Prophethood came only from ISAAC and JACOB and his progeny.
According to Muhammad, the Prophethood ONLY come from the bloodline of ISAAC, JACOB and his seed: "And we bestowed on Isaac and Jacob, and we ESTABLISHED THE PROPHETHOOD AND SCRIPTURE AMONG HIS SEED" (Sura 29:27).
Even if the Quran states the Prophethood come from Abraham & his seed, it was ISAAC as explicitly named therein. The word "Seed" is singular, not "Seeds" as of many, which Prophet Paul (Acts 13:1) pinpointed to Yahu'shua Messiah (Galatians 3:16).
Yusuf Ali adds "Abraham" into the text so that Muhammad can qualify, but "Abraham" does not exist in the Arabic text, which the Muslims claim is perfectly preserved. So according to the Qu'ran, Muhammad is not in the lineage of Prophethood.
First of all, Ishmael was older than ISAAC by at least 15 years. If Ishmael was a prophet, his name should have appeared before ISAAC in Surah 29:27.
Secondly if Muhammad came from the lineage of Ishmael, there must be a Quranic verse to support this material fact. But there is not a single verse in the whole book of the Quran which proves Muhammad came from Ishmael!!!
Thirdly, Ishmael was not mentioned in Surah 29:27 as he was cast out of the family of Abraham vide Hebrew Tanakh - Genesis 21:9-14 and the Book of Jasher 21:15 of which his birthright was revoked and totally given to ISAAC as the only Son.
Jasher 21:15 And Sarah saw the act which Ishmael desired to do to her son Isaac, and it grieved her exceedingly on account of her son, and she sent for Abraham, and said to him, CAST OUT this bondwoman and her son, for her son shall not be heir with my son, for thus did he seek to do unto him this day.
Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, CAST OUT this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
Note: The intention for expulsion is to revoke the birthright of Ishmael so that he cannot co-inherit with ISAAC.
Hebrew Scripture (Genesis 21:9-14) says that Yahuwah Elohim approved Sarah's demand to Abraham to expel Ishmael and Hagar from his family so that Ishmael and his seed will not co-inherit with her son ISAAC and his seed.
Muhammad agreed that Ishmael was dismissed when he recited the genealogy of Abraham without any mention of Ishmael as follows:
Sura 29:27 (Yusuf Ali) "And We gave (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob, and ordained among his progeny Prophethood and Revelation, ..."
Yahu'weh told Abraham that only in ISAAC shall his posterity be called (qara) or proclaimed.
Gen 21:12 And Elohim said unto Abraham, "... in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in ISAAC shall thy seed be called."
As the Everlasting Covenant of Yahu'weh Elohim would be established with ISAAC and his seed (Gen 17:19 & 21), the Prophethood i.e. "to be an Elohim unto thee and to thy seed after thee" (Gen 17:7) shall be inherited by ISAAC and his seed JACOB accordingly.
This verse alone is suffice to disqualify Muhammad as a PROPHET as he did not come from the seed of Jacob nor from Ishmael.
"And we bestowed on him ISAAC and Jacob, and we ESTABLISHED THE PROPHETHOOD AND SCRIPTURE AMONG HIS SEED" (Sura 29:27).
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Quran is a product of plagiarism which came by Muhammad and further revised by Zaid ibn Thabit. Quran is not the word of the Almighty God because there is no prophethood in the lineage of Ishmael and Muhammad as told in the Quran at Sura 29:27.
Important Question for Muslims:
Surah 29:27 which exposes the lies of Muhammad and Muslims. Muhammad made no claim to come from the lineage of Ishmael in the Quran. So how could Muhammad be associated with the prophethood of JACOB aka ISRAEL spoken of in Surah 29:27???
Muslims please answer it before moving to another question.
If Ishmael was a prophet then his name should appear before ISAAC in Surah 29:27 since he was older than ISAAC by at least 15 years. If Muhammad came from the lineage of Ishmael, then you would have find a verse in the Quran to support it. But there is not a single verse in the Quran which claims Muhammad came from the descendants of Ishmael nor from JACOB aka ISRAEL. So Muslims are all liars about the prophethood of Muhammad when the scripture proves them all WRONG!!!
The Torah does not say God is ONE but His NAME YAHUWAH IS ONE. Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is One: Exo 15:3 YHWH is a man of war: YHWH is His Name. WHY Muslims say Allah has 99 Names when the Torah says the Name of YHWH is ONE??? It proves Allah is a pagan god.
Yahushua and Yahuwah are the One Elohim.
John 10:30 "I and my Father are One."
John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Any man who honour the Son has also honoured the Father. But any man who claimed to honour the Father without the Son is a liar because the Son said "no man comes to the Father except by ME" John 14:6.
Messiah Yahushua aka Yehoshua said "I AM IN The FATHER and FATHER is in ME" which means the Spirit of YHWH is IN YAHUSHUA. In other words, YAHUSHUA IS YAHUWAH in the SPIRIT.
John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in MY NAME, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Yahushua is Yahuwah Elohim as He said you ASK anything in MY NAME, not in the Name of the Father!!!
John 15:23 He that hateth ME hateth My FATHER also.
John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I WILL SEND unto you from the FATHER (1), even the Spirit of Truth (2), which proceedeth from the FATHER, He shall testify of ME (3)"
The common misconception about the Trinity God and where Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) came from has long been answered but some Muslims still troll on the same topic indefinitely. Here is a rebuttal to some of the questions posted by Muslim known as WarriorIslamic and answered by a Christian. Click to view the full discussion.
http://positron6.blogspot.com/2011/12/common-misconception-about-trinity-god.html
According to Muhammad, the Prophethood ONLY come from the bloodline of ISAAC, JACOB and his seed: "And we bestowed on Isaac and Jacob, and we ESTABLISHED THE PROPHETHOOD AND SCRIPTURE AMONG HIS SEED" (Sura 29:27).
Even if the Quran states the Prophethood come from Abraham & his seed, it was ISAAC as explicitly named therein. The word "Seed" is singular, not "Seeds" as of many, which Prophet Paul (Acts 13:1) pinpointed to Yahu'shua Messiah (Galatians 3:16).
Yusuf Ali adds "Abraham" into the text so that Muhammad can qualify, but "Abraham" does not exist in the Arabic text, which the Muslims claim is perfectly preserved. So according to the Qu'ran, Muhammad is not in the lineage of Prophethood.
First of all, Ishmael was older than ISAAC by at least 15 years. If Ishmael was a prophet, his name should have appeared before ISAAC in Surah 29:27.
Secondly if Muhammad came from the lineage of Ishmael, there must be a Quranic verse to support this material fact. But there is not a single verse in the whole book of the Quran which proves Muhammad came from Ishmael!!!
Thirdly, Ishmael was not mentioned in Surah 29:27 as he was cast out of the family of Abraham vide Hebrew Tanakh - Genesis 21:9-14 and the Book of Jasher 21:15 of which his birthright was revoked and totally given to ISAAC as the only Son.
Jasher 21:15 And Sarah saw the act which Ishmael desired to do to her son Isaac, and it grieved her exceedingly on account of her son, and she sent for Abraham, and said to him, CAST OUT this bondwoman and her son, for her son shall not be heir with my son, for thus did he seek to do unto him this day.
Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, CAST OUT this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
Note: The intention for expulsion is to revoke the birthright of Ishmael so that he cannot co-inherit with ISAAC.
Hebrew Scripture (Genesis 21:9-14) says that Yahuwah Elohim approved Sarah's demand to Abraham to expel Ishmael and Hagar from his family so that Ishmael and his seed will not co-inherit with her son ISAAC and his seed.
Muhammad agreed that Ishmael was dismissed when he recited the genealogy of Abraham without any mention of Ishmael as follows:
Sura 29:27 (Yusuf Ali) "And We gave (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob, and ordained among his progeny Prophethood and Revelation, ..."
Yahu'weh told Abraham that only in ISAAC shall his posterity be called (qara) or proclaimed.
Gen 21:12 And Elohim said unto Abraham, "... in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in ISAAC shall thy seed be called."
As the Everlasting Covenant of Yahu'weh Elohim would be established with ISAAC and his seed (Gen 17:19 & 21), the Prophethood i.e. "to be an Elohim unto thee and to thy seed after thee" (Gen 17:7) shall be inherited by ISAAC and his seed JACOB accordingly.
This verse alone is suffice to disqualify Muhammad as a PROPHET as he did not come from the seed of Jacob nor from Ishmael.
"And we bestowed on him ISAAC and Jacob, and we ESTABLISHED THE PROPHETHOOD AND SCRIPTURE AMONG HIS SEED" (Sura 29:27).
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Quran is a product of plagiarism which came by Muhammad and further revised by Zaid ibn Thabit. Quran is not the word of the Almighty God because there is no prophethood in the lineage of Ishmael and Muhammad as told in the Quran at Sura 29:27.
Important Question for Muslims:
Surah 29:27 which exposes the lies of Muhammad and Muslims. Muhammad made no claim to come from the lineage of Ishmael in the Quran. So how could Muhammad be associated with the prophethood of JACOB aka ISRAEL spoken of in Surah 29:27???
Muslims please answer it before moving to another question.
If Ishmael was a prophet then his name should appear before ISAAC in Surah 29:27 since he was older than ISAAC by at least 15 years. If Muhammad came from the lineage of Ishmael, then you would have find a verse in the Quran to support it. But there is not a single verse in the Quran which claims Muhammad came from the descendants of Ishmael nor from JACOB aka ISRAEL. So Muslims are all liars about the prophethood of Muhammad when the scripture proves them all WRONG!!!
The Torah does not say God is ONE but His NAME YAHUWAH IS ONE. Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is One: Exo 15:3 YHWH is a man of war: YHWH is His Name. WHY Muslims say Allah has 99 Names when the Torah says the Name of YHWH is ONE??? It proves Allah is a pagan god.
Yahushua and Yahuwah are the One Elohim.
John 10:30 "I and my Father are One."
John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Any man who honour the Son has also honoured the Father. But any man who claimed to honour the Father without the Son is a liar because the Son said "no man comes to the Father except by ME" John 14:6.
Messiah Yahushua aka Yehoshua said "I AM IN The FATHER and FATHER is in ME" which means the Spirit of YHWH is IN YAHUSHUA. In other words, YAHUSHUA IS YAHUWAH in the SPIRIT.
John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in MY NAME, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Yahushua is Yahuwah Elohim as He said you ASK anything in MY NAME, not in the Name of the Father!!!
John 15:23 He that hateth ME hateth My FATHER also.
John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I WILL SEND unto you from the FATHER (1), even the Spirit of Truth (2), which proceedeth from the FATHER, He shall testify of ME (3)"
The common misconception about the Trinity God and where Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) came from has long been answered but some Muslims still troll on the same topic indefinitely. Here is a rebuttal to some of the questions posted by Muslim known as WarriorIslamic and answered by a Christian. Click to view the full discussion.
http://positron6.blogspot.com/2011/12/common-misconception-about-trinity-god.html
The common misconception about the Trinity God and where Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) came from has long been answered
The common misconception about the Trinity God and where Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) came from has long been answered but some Muslims still troll on the same topic indefinitely. Here is a rebuttal to some of the questions posted by Muslim known as WarriorIslamic and answered by a Christian.
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Please answer the following questions WITHOUT FAIL!
1. When your Jesus was lying dead for 3 days in the Tomb after crucifiction, how many Living God or Gods were there & who was/were they (out of The Father,The Holy Ghost & Jesus!)
+++ Answer: When Yahushua was dead for 3 days, His physical body was dead but His Spirit is eternally One with His Father. There are still 3 persons: Father, Son and the Holy Spirit which are the One Elohim.
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2.Now Jesus is in Heaven! how many Living God or Gods is/are there now in Heaven or anywhere & who is/are they (out of The Father,The Holy Ghost & Jesus!)
+++ Answer: Yahushua was in Heaven before He came down to earth and when He was on earth, His Spirit is in Heaven. The Spirit of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit are eternally ONE.
John 1:18 No man hath seen the Father at any time; the only begotten Son, which was in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven.
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3.At the cross when your Jesus was crucified, he cried out "Daddy! Daddy! Why have u forsaken me? " Was Jesus talking to Jesus or was Jesus talking to another entity called the Father! How many entities were there? What happened to the Holy Ghost & why Holy Ghost did not interfere or help Jesus?
+++ Answer: Yahushua was not calling for help from His Father but He was quoting the Scripture from Psalms 22:1 "My El, my El, why hast thou forsaken me? ..."
Matt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Yahushua cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My Elohim, my Elohim, why hast thou forsaken me?
The Spirit of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit are eternally One and they speak as One Elohim.
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4.Gabriel came to Mary telling Mary that shes gonna bore Jesus!! Why was your God created in the womb of a Human!! Muslims believe in True God as being UNCREATED! Why your God Jesus was created?
+++ Answer: Yahushua was not created in the womb of virgin Mary. Yahushua pre-existed with His Father in Heaven. Yahushua came down to earth by INCARNATION.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHWH, and the Word was YHWH.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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5. Why your Baby God Jesus sucked human woman nipples for milk? Why your Jesus did not suck from a God Mother?
+++ Answer: Yahushua became a man by the will of his own free choice. This question shall be addressed to Yahushua when you meet Him in Heaven.
John 6:38 For I came down from Heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
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6. If Jesus was God, why Jesus need to be baptized coz I thought God is SINLESS! Why God Jesus was baptized by a human? Does that make John the Baptist SUPERIOR than your God Jesus?
+++ Answer: Baptism is not because of sins. Baptism is symbolic for remission of sins. However Yahushua came to earth as a man and not as the GOD. Being a perfect man, Yahushua have to obey the laws and be baptized as a man. John the Baptist declared that Yahushua was mightier than him. Are you listening???
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, and with fire:
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7. If u claimed Jesus is God, why Jesus said "The Father is Greater than I!" How many Gods do u have here? Who is/are these God or Gods?
+++ Answer: You have to understand the word "greater" is not SUPERIOR. "GREATER" means MORE IMPORTANT. The One GOD consists of 3-person namely the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are always the ONE GOD and never divided into 3 Gods.
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8. Jesus always said in your Bible " Thy Father, My Father!!!" Why Jesus did not say "I am the Father!" Do u agree that Father & Jesus are 2 separate entities? If they are ONE ENTITY, JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE SAID "The Father is greater than I!" & also Jesus would say "Thy Thy Thy Thyyyyyyy so many times!" Explain in great length your answers!
+++ Answer: Now GOD is Almighty and infinite in WISDOM. What a feeble mind like you cannot comprehend things on this world, will not understand things unseen too!
The Father and the Son are 2 persons but not separate entities. They are always ONE in the Spirit. Take a look at my video clip below and it explains everything about Trinity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU65PLFvWuw
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9. Jesus did not know the season of the fig Tree & Jesus did not know when will be the Day of Judgemant! My Allah,my God knows everything! Why your God Jesus did not know everything!
+++ Answer: Your allah knows nothing!!! Allah in Hebrew means OAK TREE. If Allah knows every thing, why his name means OAK???
Yahushua cursed the fig tree in order to prove that His spoken word is powerful as GOD. Why allah cannot raise Muhammad from his dead???
Yahushua did know the Day of Judgment as He would be the Chief Judge on the Day of Judgment.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of Man.
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10.When Jesus was asked what was the Best Commandments that Jesus liked the most, Jesus answer " O Ye Israel! Worship thy Father,My Father!" Why thy again? Is Father & Jesus one entity or separate entities or objects?
+++ Answer: You simply misquoted the Word of Yahuwah Elohim.
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is one:
Mark 12:29 And Yahushua answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is one:
John 10:30 I and my Father are ONE.
The Father and Yahushua are One Elohim. They have the same will, same mind and same nature.
NOW answer these questions:
1. Where does the Quran say Muhammad was a descendant from Ishmael?
2. Abraham has one grandson or 2 grandsons?
3. How could Muhammad be a prophet when he did not come from the lineage of JACOB aka ISRAEL vide Surah 29:27???
4. How could Muhammad qualify for his prophethood when Surah 3:81 require him to confirm the Torah and the Gospel vide Surah 3:3??? Where are the Torah and the Gospel used by Muhammad as required by Surah 3:81???
5. All prophets after the time of Moses have been anointed by another prophet before the new prophet can take up the duty. Prophet John the Baptist, Prophet Moses and Prophet Isaiah announced the coming of Messiah Yahushua. Who announce the coming of Muhammad from scriptures before him???
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Please answer the following questions WITHOUT FAIL!
1. When your Jesus was lying dead for 3 days in the Tomb after crucifiction, how many Living God or Gods were there & who was/were they (out of The Father,The Holy Ghost & Jesus!)
+++ Answer: When Yahushua was dead for 3 days, His physical body was dead but His Spirit is eternally One with His Father. There are still 3 persons: Father, Son and the Holy Spirit which are the One Elohim.
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2.Now Jesus is in Heaven! how many Living God or Gods is/are there now in Heaven or anywhere & who is/are they (out of The Father,The Holy Ghost & Jesus!)
+++ Answer: Yahushua was in Heaven before He came down to earth and when He was on earth, His Spirit is in Heaven. The Spirit of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit are eternally ONE.
John 1:18 No man hath seen the Father at any time; the only begotten Son, which was in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven.
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3.At the cross when your Jesus was crucified, he cried out "Daddy! Daddy! Why have u forsaken me? " Was Jesus talking to Jesus or was Jesus talking to another entity called the Father! How many entities were there? What happened to the Holy Ghost & why Holy Ghost did not interfere or help Jesus?
+++ Answer: Yahushua was not calling for help from His Father but He was quoting the Scripture from Psalms 22:1 "My El, my El, why hast thou forsaken me? ..."
Matt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Yahushua cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My Elohim, my Elohim, why hast thou forsaken me?
The Spirit of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit are eternally One and they speak as One Elohim.
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4.Gabriel came to Mary telling Mary that shes gonna bore Jesus!! Why was your God created in the womb of a Human!! Muslims believe in True God as being UNCREATED! Why your God Jesus was created?
+++ Answer: Yahushua was not created in the womb of virgin Mary. Yahushua pre-existed with His Father in Heaven. Yahushua came down to earth by INCARNATION.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHWH, and the Word was YHWH.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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5. Why your Baby God Jesus sucked human woman nipples for milk? Why your Jesus did not suck from a God Mother?
+++ Answer: Yahushua became a man by the will of his own free choice. This question shall be addressed to Yahushua when you meet Him in Heaven.
John 6:38 For I came down from Heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
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6. If Jesus was God, why Jesus need to be baptized coz I thought God is SINLESS! Why God Jesus was baptized by a human? Does that make John the Baptist SUPERIOR than your God Jesus?
+++ Answer: Baptism is not because of sins. Baptism is symbolic for remission of sins. However Yahushua came to earth as a man and not as the GOD. Being a perfect man, Yahushua have to obey the laws and be baptized as a man. John the Baptist declared that Yahushua was mightier than him. Are you listening???
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, and with fire:
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7. If u claimed Jesus is God, why Jesus said "The Father is Greater than I!" How many Gods do u have here? Who is/are these God or Gods?
+++ Answer: You have to understand the word "greater" is not SUPERIOR. "GREATER" means MORE IMPORTANT. The One GOD consists of 3-person namely the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are always the ONE GOD and never divided into 3 Gods.
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8. Jesus always said in your Bible " Thy Father, My Father!!!" Why Jesus did not say "I am the Father!" Do u agree that Father & Jesus are 2 separate entities? If they are ONE ENTITY, JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE SAID "The Father is greater than I!" & also Jesus would say "Thy Thy Thy Thyyyyyyy so many times!" Explain in great length your answers!
+++ Answer: Now GOD is Almighty and infinite in WISDOM. What a feeble mind like you cannot comprehend things on this world, will not understand things unseen too!
The Father and the Son are 2 persons but not separate entities. They are always ONE in the Spirit. Take a look at my video clip below and it explains everything about Trinity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU65PLFvWuw
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9. Jesus did not know the season of the fig Tree & Jesus did not know when will be the Day of Judgemant! My Allah,my God knows everything! Why your God Jesus did not know everything!
+++ Answer: Your allah knows nothing!!! Allah in Hebrew means OAK TREE. If Allah knows every thing, why his name means OAK???
Yahushua cursed the fig tree in order to prove that His spoken word is powerful as GOD. Why allah cannot raise Muhammad from his dead???
Yahushua did know the Day of Judgment as He would be the Chief Judge on the Day of Judgment.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of Man.
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10.When Jesus was asked what was the Best Commandments that Jesus liked the most, Jesus answer " O Ye Israel! Worship thy Father,My Father!" Why thy again? Is Father & Jesus one entity or separate entities or objects?
+++ Answer: You simply misquoted the Word of Yahuwah Elohim.
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is one:
Mark 12:29 And Yahushua answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is one:
John 10:30 I and my Father are ONE.
The Father and Yahushua are One Elohim. They have the same will, same mind and same nature.
NOW answer these questions:
1. Where does the Quran say Muhammad was a descendant from Ishmael?
2. Abraham has one grandson or 2 grandsons?
3. How could Muhammad be a prophet when he did not come from the lineage of JACOB aka ISRAEL vide Surah 29:27???
4. How could Muhammad qualify for his prophethood when Surah 3:81 require him to confirm the Torah and the Gospel vide Surah 3:3??? Where are the Torah and the Gospel used by Muhammad as required by Surah 3:81???
5. All prophets after the time of Moses have been anointed by another prophet before the new prophet can take up the duty. Prophet John the Baptist, Prophet Moses and Prophet Isaiah announced the coming of Messiah Yahushua. Who announce the coming of Muhammad from scriptures before him???
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