Allah is not The GOD but Allah in Hebrew means OAK TREE. Proof is here from around 500 BC word when Arabic has not even come into use.
Joshua 24:26 And JoshuaH3091 wroteH3789 theseH428 (H853) wordsH1697 in the bookH5612 of the lawH8451 of God,H430 and tookH3947 a greatH1419 stone,H68 and set it upH6965 thereH8033 underH8478 an oak,H427 thatH834 was by the sanctuaryH4720 of the LORD.H3068
OAK Hebrew Code H427 comes from ALLAH. Just ask all Hebrews speaking people and see if this is made up by Christians! Hebrews use Allah hundred of years before Islam to mean OAK. Why would the Hebrews God use the same word to mean His Sacred Name???? No way! Only pagans worship ROCKS, OAK TREES, STONES, GODDESS ETC.
ALLAH means OAK TREE. It does not change Hebrew word Elohim to mean THE GOD. Hahaha. ALLAH means Goddess in Sanskrit. This is also many years before Islam. So Muslims use pagan word to define their god and then made up definition to lie that Allah means The God. Rubbish! Yahuwah God cannot be deceived by men! Muslims better find the explicit word of the Creator that reconcile with the Hebrews God of Abraham.
Logic tells us that God cannot use the same pagan name ALLAH in Sanskrit to mean Goddess for Himself to mean The God. Why YHWH spoke to Moses that His Name is Yahuwah or Yehovah??? Why Yahoshua means YHWH Saves and not ALLAH Saves!!!
When YHWH revealed to us by His Son YEHOSHUA that He and His Father are ONE, it is always in the Spiritual Sense. When Christians say God is THREE, it is always in the Spiritual Sense too. The Almighty YHWH can exist as THREE or FIVE or SEVEN persons at any one time. YHWH is called Holy TRINITY when YHWH is known as THREE in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
YHWH Elohim has manifested to us as THREE MEN or ANGELS to Abraham in the past. Now His Son Yehoshua told us about THREE TITLES; Father, Son and Spirit. Are they not 3 PERSONS??? Assuming that Christians mistaken that as 3 Persons which in truth means 3 TITLES, then who is the Father?
My Father = Elohim
John 8:54 Yahushua answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is My Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that He is your Elohim:
YaHushua = Elohim
John 8:42 Yahushua said unto them, If Elohim were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from Elohim; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 10:30 I and my Father are One.
When Yahushua said He and His Father are One, in the Spiritual Sense, it is not a figure of speech. It is a revelation of His spiritual existence as ONE YHWH. Carnally minded people cannot understand this cocnept because Satan has blocked the understanding of this concept. Atheists are called fools by YHWH.
Psa 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no Elohim.
Psa 75:4 I said unto the fools, Deal not foolishly: and to the wicked, Lift not up the horn:
Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken
Is the Holy Spirit of YHWH, the Elohim? Any verse to support it? YES
The Spirit of Elohim was there in ancient of TIME.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.
Joseph had the Spirit of Elohim in Him. Is it a Christian concept that the Spirit of Elohim is YHWH?
Gen 41:38 And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man In whom the Spirit of Elohim is?
Gen 41:39 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as Elohim hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:
Exo 31:3 And I have filled him with the Spirit of Elohim, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,
1Sam 11:6 And the Spirit of Elohim came upon Saul when he heard those tidings, and his anger was kindled greatly.
2Ch 24:20 And the Spirit of Elohim came upon Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest, which stood above the people, and said unto them, Thus saith Elohim, Why transgress ye the commandments of YHWH, that ye cannot prosper? because ye have forsaken YHWH, he hath also forsaken you.
The Spirit of Elohim is not Angel but YHWH.
Lying to the Holy Spirit is not to men but to YHWH:
Act 5:3 But Kepha said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto YHWH.
The doctine of TRINITY is based on the scriptures that Father is YHWH, the Son is YHWH and the Holy Spirit is YHWH.
As YHWH is our Elohim (God) Deut 6:4
YHWH our GOD is THREE: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Are they 3 TITLES or 3 NAMES?
It is up to you Muslims and Atheists. If you want to call DOG as your GOD, no one can stop you Atheists and Muslims. Muslims call ALLAH, your God just like calling DOG your GOD! English word GOD not a good title because it is a reflection of DOG and it is reversed and read backward it becomes GOD. YHWH Yahuwah when it is reversed, becomes HAWUHAY or HWHY which Hebrews read from right to left. Hahaha... this is truly the Sacred Name of YHWH Elohim.
So English word GOD when read by Hebrews from right to left is DOG!!! Do you enliightened people called GOD or DOG to Hebrews reading-style your Mighty Deity??? Is that not an insult to YHWH? Get away with pagan word GOD and use the only sacred word YHWH or HWHY both ways are GOOD!!
Thursday, September 22, 2011
Monday, September 19, 2011
YAHUSHUA or YAHSUA or YEHOSHUA or YESUS or JESUS or JOSHUA
SHALOM
I have begun to love using YAHshua for quite some time after learning
that Ye'shua or Jesus is not the sacred Name of Yehoshua because the
Son of YHWH did not speak Greek to His followers. Yehoshua was
speaking Aramaic, His Native tongue. Yehoshua came down from Heaven
and was brought up in Nazareth. He was called Nazarene.
Matt 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it
might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be
called a Nazarene.
What Name did GabriEL tell Blessed Mary to name Him?
Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast
found favour with YHWH.
Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring
forth a son, and shalt call his name Yahushua.
There is nothing wrong to write YAHshua because when it comes to
pronunciation of NAMES, the translation is totally irrelevant; what is
relevant is the retention of the original tone and pronunciation of
the Name.
Where did YAH come from?
The first verse which retains YAH or JAH comes from KJV Bible.
Psalm 68:4 Sing unto Elohim, sing praises to his name: extol him that
rideth upon the heavens by his name YAH, and rejoice before him.
When YHWH is restored to the Sacred Name of YHWH, even God is a pagan
title. All scripture is inspired by YHWH but not all language is
inspired by YHWH.
2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of YHWH, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness
Once again, the pronunciation of Names must be retained when it comes
to Names and not literal translation. For example, YHWH or YHVH in
Hebrew when it is translated to English becomes IEUE vide
http://yahuah.org/YHWH.html
Common sense tells us that YHWH God gives His language to us in the
Hebrews language as He spoke to Abraham, Moses and Yehoshua or Yahshua
in Hebrew.
Act 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice
speaking unto me, and saying in the HEBREW tongue, Saul, Saul, why
persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
When YHHW spoke to Adam, He was speaking Hebrew to him. If it was not
Hebrew then why YHWH had chosen the Hebrew race?
Gen 2:16 And YHWH Elohim commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of
the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die.
Abraham was a Hebrew.
Gen 14:13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew
NOW the retention of the pronunciation of the names that is what YHWH
has wanted. YHWH has only one Name, that is YHWH or Yahuwah or
Yehovah. YHWH God will not mind what man writes but what one speaks or
pronounces is what matters.
For example the Hebrew word YAH exists in many verses in the OT which
KJV translators translate to The LORD. When it is translated to YAH we
can find many YAH in the RNKJV Bible.
Exo 17:16 For he said, Because YAH hath sworn that YHWH will have war
with Amalek from generation to generation.
Psa 118:14 YAH is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
Who is YAH?
Psa 68:4 Sing unto Elohim, sing praises to his name: extol him that
rideth upon the heavens by His Name YAH, and rejoice before him.
Isa 26:4 Trust ye in YHWH for ever: for in YAH YHWH is everlasting strength:
Isa 38:11 I said, I shall not see YAH, even YAH, in the land of the
living: I shall behold man no more with the inhabitants of the world.
HOW is Yeho'shua derived from?
YEH cannot be found in any text of the OT. So why use YEH???
Pronunciation is what matters because YHWH likes to Hear melodious
voices and songs. So the Hebrew or Aramaic words could be the only
language which YHWH uses to speak to the Hebrews Prophets.
YAHUSHUA or YAHOSHUA is much preferred than Yehoshua because both has
similar pronunciation but YAH can be found in the OT passages. How
about YEH???
NOW OBAMA in English when his name is translated to Arabic is still
OBAMA. When OBAMA is translated to Chinese, it is still called O-BA-MA
with Chinese words which retain the pronunciation and not literal
translation word-by-word.
YAHUSHUA means YAHUWAH SAVES!
YAH'SHUA = YEH'SHUA in pronunciation and no meaning is lost.
YAH'WAH = YEHOVAH = YHWH= YHVH With the Meaning retains exactly.
What is JESUS retaining from Hebrew word YEHOSHUA or YAHOSHUA?
Absolutely nothing. I strongly believe GabriEL did not mention the
Name JESUS to Blessed Mary. Gabriel indeed said YAHOSHUA because
Joshua who succeeded Moses is the type of Saviour that we are looking
for. Yehoshua or YAHoshua are so close in pronunciation that it is
much better and melodious in the ears of YHWH.
YHWH God likes melody and that is why the melodious word is better
than dull or monotonous word.
Isa 23:16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been
forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be
remembered.
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual
songs, singing and making melody in your heart to YHWH;
The power of word or tongue making melody or unmelodious is what
matters to YHWH.
Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they
that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
JESUS =G-Zeus is not as melodious than YA-HO-SHUA. Which ones is more
melodious to our ears will be better to YHWH God too since His words
tell use to make melody to Him!
I still prefer to write YAH'SHUA or YAHUSHUA and use YAH'SHUA (JESUS)
so that people will slowly get used to see YAH'SHUA refers to Hebrew
Name of YEHOSHUA.
SHALOM
PEACE
I have begun to love using YAHshua for quite some time after learning
that Ye'shua or Jesus is not the sacred Name of Yehoshua because the
Son of YHWH did not speak Greek to His followers. Yehoshua was
speaking Aramaic, His Native tongue. Yehoshua came down from Heaven
and was brought up in Nazareth. He was called Nazarene.
Matt 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it
might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be
called a Nazarene.
What Name did GabriEL tell Blessed Mary to name Him?
Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast
found favour with YHWH.
Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring
forth a son, and shalt call his name Yahushua.
There is nothing wrong to write YAHshua because when it comes to
pronunciation of NAMES, the translation is totally irrelevant; what is
relevant is the retention of the original tone and pronunciation of
the Name.
Where did YAH come from?
The first verse which retains YAH or JAH comes from KJV Bible.
Psalm 68:4 Sing unto Elohim, sing praises to his name: extol him that
rideth upon the heavens by his name YAH, and rejoice before him.
When YHWH is restored to the Sacred Name of YHWH, even God is a pagan
title. All scripture is inspired by YHWH but not all language is
inspired by YHWH.
2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of YHWH, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness
Once again, the pronunciation of Names must be retained when it comes
to Names and not literal translation. For example, YHWH or YHVH in
Hebrew when it is translated to English becomes IEUE vide
http://yahuah.org/YHWH.html
Common sense tells us that YHWH God gives His language to us in the
Hebrews language as He spoke to Abraham, Moses and Yehoshua or Yahshua
in Hebrew.
Act 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice
speaking unto me, and saying in the HEBREW tongue, Saul, Saul, why
persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
When YHHW spoke to Adam, He was speaking Hebrew to him. If it was not
Hebrew then why YHWH had chosen the Hebrew race?
Gen 2:16 And YHWH Elohim commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of
the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die.
Abraham was a Hebrew.
Gen 14:13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew
NOW the retention of the pronunciation of the names that is what YHWH
has wanted. YHWH has only one Name, that is YHWH or Yahuwah or
Yehovah. YHWH God will not mind what man writes but what one speaks or
pronounces is what matters.
For example the Hebrew word YAH exists in many verses in the OT which
KJV translators translate to The LORD. When it is translated to YAH we
can find many YAH in the RNKJV Bible.
Exo 17:16 For he said, Because YAH hath sworn that YHWH will have war
with Amalek from generation to generation.
Psa 118:14 YAH is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
Who is YAH?
Psa 68:4 Sing unto Elohim, sing praises to his name: extol him that
rideth upon the heavens by His Name YAH, and rejoice before him.
Isa 26:4 Trust ye in YHWH for ever: for in YAH YHWH is everlasting strength:
Isa 38:11 I said, I shall not see YAH, even YAH, in the land of the
living: I shall behold man no more with the inhabitants of the world.
HOW is Yeho'shua derived from?
YEH cannot be found in any text of the OT. So why use YEH???
Pronunciation is what matters because YHWH likes to Hear melodious
voices and songs. So the Hebrew or Aramaic words could be the only
language which YHWH uses to speak to the Hebrews Prophets.
YAHUSHUA or YAHOSHUA is much preferred than Yehoshua because both has
similar pronunciation but YAH can be found in the OT passages. How
about YEH???
NOW OBAMA in English when his name is translated to Arabic is still
OBAMA. When OBAMA is translated to Chinese, it is still called O-BA-MA
with Chinese words which retain the pronunciation and not literal
translation word-by-word.
YAHUSHUA means YAHUWAH SAVES!
YAH'SHUA = YEH'SHUA in pronunciation and no meaning is lost.
YAH'WAH = YEHOVAH = YHWH= YHVH With the Meaning retains exactly.
What is JESUS retaining from Hebrew word YEHOSHUA or YAHOSHUA?
Absolutely nothing. I strongly believe GabriEL did not mention the
Name JESUS to Blessed Mary. Gabriel indeed said YAHOSHUA because
Joshua who succeeded Moses is the type of Saviour that we are looking
for. Yehoshua or YAHoshua are so close in pronunciation that it is
much better and melodious in the ears of YHWH.
YHWH God likes melody and that is why the melodious word is better
than dull or monotonous word.
Isa 23:16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been
forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be
remembered.
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual
songs, singing and making melody in your heart to YHWH;
The power of word or tongue making melody or unmelodious is what
matters to YHWH.
Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they
that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
JESUS =G-Zeus is not as melodious than YA-HO-SHUA. Which ones is more
melodious to our ears will be better to YHWH God too since His words
tell use to make melody to Him!
I still prefer to write YAH'SHUA or YAHUSHUA and use YAH'SHUA (JESUS)
so that people will slowly get used to see YAH'SHUA refers to Hebrew
Name of YEHOSHUA.
SHALOM
PEACE
Saturday, September 17, 2011
Why Christians are not circumcised?
Christians do not practise circumcision because it was not a commandment from Lord YaHshua Messiah. Some Christians are circumcised for hygienic grounds but not on religious grounds.
The issue on whether or not Circumcision is a pre-requisite for Christians to be part of the Abrahamic Convenant, had been debated and resolved in the first century AD. Apostle Simon Peter related his vision as to how YHWH God told him to baptize the Gentiles Messianics or uncircumcised persons.
Act 10:44 And while Simon was uttering these things, the Holy Spirit overshadowed all them that were hearing the word.
Act 10:45 And the circumcised brethren who came with him, were amazed and astonished, that the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out upon the Gentiles also.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with diverse tongues, and magnify God.
Act 10:47 And Simon said: Can any one forbid water, that those should not be baptized, they who have received, lo, the Holy Spirit, as well as we?
Act 10:48 Then he commanded them to be baptized in the name of our Lord Jesus Messiah. And they requested him to remain with them [some] days.
Act 11:1 And it was reported to the legates and the brethren in Judaea, that the Gentiles also had received the Word of God.
Act 11:2 And when Simon went up to Jerusalem, they who were of the circumcision contended with him,
Act 11:3 saying; that he had gone in to be with uncircumcised persons, and had eaten with them.
Act 11:4 And Simon began to address them methodically:
Act 11:5 As I was in Joppa, praying, I saw in vision, that a certain vessel descended, which was like a sheet, and it was tied at its four corners; and it descended from heaven and came to me.
Act 11:6 And I looked upon it, and I saw that in it were fourfooted animals, and reptiles of the earth, and fowls of heaven.
Act 11:7 And I heard a voice, which said to me: Simon, arise slay and eat.
Act 11:8 And I said: Far be it, my Lord. For never hath any thing polluted or unclean entered my mouth.
Act 11:9 And again, a voice from heaven said to me: What God hath cleansed, make thou not unclean.
Act 11:10 And this was done three times: and the whole was taken up to heaven.
Act 11:11 And at the same instant, three men, who were sent to me by Cornelius from Caesarea, came and stood at the gate of the court where I lodged.
Act 11:12 And the Spirit said to me: Go with them, without hesitation. And these six brethren went also with me, and we entered the man's house.
Act 11:13 And he related to us, how he had seen an angel in his house, who stood and said to him: Send to the city of Joppa, and bring Simon who is called Cephas;
Act 11:14 and he will utter to thee discourses, by which thou wilt live, thou and all thy house.
Act 11:15 And when I there commenced speaking, the Holy Spirit overshadowed them, as it did us from the beginning.
Act 11:16 And I remembered the word of our Lord, when he said: John baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.
Act 11:17 If then God equally gave the gift to the Gentiles that believed in our Lord Jesus Messiah, as he did to us: who was I, that I could forbid God?
Act 11:18 And when they heard these words, they desisted; and they glorified God and said: Now to the Gentiles also doth God give repentance unto life.
Circumcision Issue was debated in Jerusalem amongst the Apostles of Yahushua Messiah and the Consensus Drawn
Act 15:5 And some who from the sect of the Pharisees had believed, rose up and said: It is necessary for you to CIRCUMCISE them, and to command them to observe the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the legates and Elders assembled, to look into this matter.
Act 15:7 And when there had been much discussion, Simon arose and said to them: Men, brethren, ye know that, from the earlier days, God chose that from my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel, and should believe.
Act 15:8 And God, who knoweth what is in hearts, bore testimony concerning them, and gave the Holy Spirit to them, even as to us.
Act 15:9 And he made no distinction between them and us; because he purified their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 And now, why tempt ye God, by putting a yoke on the necks of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we could bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe, that we as well as they, are to have life by the grace of our Lord Jesus Messiah.
Act 15:12 And the whole assembly were silent, and listened to Paul and Barnabas, who related how God by their hands had wrought signs and prodigies among the Gentiles.
Act 15:13 And after they ceased, James arose and said: Men, brethren, hearken to me.
Act 15:14 Simon hath related to you, how God hath begun to elect a people for his name from among the Gentiles.
Act 15:15 And with this the words of the prophets accord, as it is written:
Act 15:16 After these things I will return, and will set up the tabernacle of David that had fallen; and will build that which was in ruins in it, and will raise it up:
Act 15:17 so that the residue of men may seek the Lord, and all the nations on whom my name is called; saith the Lord, who doth all these things.
Act 15:18 Known, from of old, are the works of God.
Act 15:19 Therefore I say to you, let them not crush those who from among the Gentiles have turned unto God.
Act 15:20 But let word be sent to them, that they keep aloof from the defilement of a sacrifice [to idols], and from whoredom, and from what is strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For in every city, from former ages, Moses hath heralds in the synagogues, who read him every sabbath.
Act 15:22 Then the legates and Elders, with all the church, chose men from among themselves, and sent them to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas; [namely], Jude, who was called Barsabas, and Silas, men who were chiefs among the brethren.
Act 15:23 And they wrote a letter by them, thus: The legates and Elders and brethren, to them that are in Antioch, and in Syria, and in Cilicia, brethren who are from the Gentiles, greeting:
Act 15:24 We have heard, that some have gone from us and disquieted you, by discourses, and have subverted your minds, by saying, That ye must be circumcised and keep the law; things which we have not commanded them.
Act 15:25 Therefore we all have thought fit, when assembled, to choose and send men to you, with our beloved Paul and Barnabas,
Act 15:26 men who have given up their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Messiah.
Act 15:27 And we have sent with them Jude and Silas, that they may tell you the same things orally.
Act 15:28 For it was pleasing to the Holy Spirit, and to us, that there should not be laid upon you any additional burden, besides these necessary things:
Act 15:29 that ye keep aloof from a sacrifice [to idols], and from blood, and from what is strangled, and from whoredom. And if ye keep yourselves from these, ye will do well. Be ye steadfast in the Lord.
Act 15:30 And they who were sent, came to Antioch, and assembled all the people, and delivered the letter.
Act 15:31 And when they had read [it], they rejoiced and were comforted.
Is the Circumcision Superior than Uncircumcised?
1Cor 7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
1Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of YHWH.
1Cor 7:20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Lord Yah'shua Messiah personally called for all to be baptized by His Holy Spirit and with water, and nothing about circumcision.
John 3:5 Jesus replied, and said to him "Verily, verily, I say to thee, That, unless a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
Mark 16:15 And he said to them: Go ye into all the world, and proclaim my tidings in the whole creation.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth, and is baptized, liveth; but he that believeth not, is condemned.
Act 1:4 And when He (YaHshua) had eaten bread with them, he instructed them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which (said he) ye have heard from me.
Act 1:5 For John baptized with water; but ye will be baptized with the Holy Spirit after not many days.
Why YaHushua was baptized if the Law of Circumcision ceased until John the Baptist?
Matt 11:13 YaHshua said "For all the prophets and the law prophesied, until the time of John."
Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John: since then, the kingdom of God is proclaimed, and every one presseth it to enter in.
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one letter to pass from the law."
As a matter of fact YaHshua came BEFORE John the Baptist according to the words of Prophet John the Baptist. Although YaHshua began His ministry about 6 months later than John, the existence of YaHshua was even earlier than Abraham. So who say YaHshua exist later than John???
Three (3) Times, Prophet John declared that Yahushua was BEFORE him.
John 1:15 John testified of him, and cried, and said: This is He, of whom I said, That he cometh after me, and is BEFORE me; for he was prior to me.
John 1:26 John answered, and said to them; I baptize with water; but among you standeth one, whom ye do not know.
John 1:27 He it is that cometh after me, and was BEFORE me, whose shoe-strings I am not worthy to untie.
John 1:29 The day after, John saw Jesus coming towards him, and said: Behold, the Lamb of God, that beareth the sin of the world.
John 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man, who is BEFORE me, for he was prior to me.
YaHshua declared that He existed BEFORE Abraham:
John 8:57 The Jews say to him: Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
John 8:58 Jesus said to them: Verily, verily I say to you, That before Abraham existed, I was.
YaHshua had to fulfill all the prophecies spoken by the Prophets before Him.
John 19:28 After these things, Jesus knew that every thing was finished; and, that the scripture might be fulfilled, he said: I thirst.
BUT YaHshua was not physically circumcised because He is the Son of YHWH God. The scripture says He was named YAHSHUA on the 8th day which is the Circumcision Day but it does not say He was circumcised on the 8th Day from birth.
Luke 2:21 And when the eight days for the circumcision of the child were completed, His Name was called YAHUSHUA; as He was named by the angel, before He was conceived in the womb.
External Sources or About the Circumcision of Yahshua
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bct/bct09.htm
Book of the Cave of Treasure
[The Circumcision of Christ.]
Now Christ was eight days old when the Magi presented their offerings; and Mary received them at the very time when Joseph circumcised Christ. In truth, Joseph circumcised Him according to the Law, but he only went through (or imitated) the act of cutting, for no [flesh] whatsoever was cut off from Him. For as [a rod of] iron passeth through the fire and cutteth the rays thereof, without any part of it being cut off from it, so in like manner was Christ circumcised without anything being taken from Him.
[The Conversion of the Magi.]
And the Magi lived with the Child three days, and they saw the hosts of heaven going up and coming down to Christ. And they heard the sound of the praises of the angels, who sang hymns and cried out, "Holy, Holy, Holy, Mighty God, with whose praises the heavens and the earth are filled." And they were in great fear, and in truth they believed in Christ, and said, "This is the King Who hath come down from heaven and become man." And Perôzdhâdh answered and said unto them, "Now know I that the prophecy of Isaiah is true. For when I was in the school of the Hebrews I read in [the Book of] Isaiah, and I found [written] therein thus: 'For unto us a child is born, and unto us a son hath been given. And His Name shall be called Wonderful, and Counsellor, and God, Giant of the Worlds'" (Isa. ix. 6). And it is written in another place, "Behold, a virgin is with child, and she shall bring forth a son, and his name shall be called 'Emmanuel,' which is, being interpreted, 'God with us'" (Isa. vii. 14). And because He became like a man, and the angels were coming down from heaven to Him, truly He is the Lord of angels and men. And all the Magi believed and said, "Truly this King is God. Kings are born unto us frequently, and mighty men, the sons of mighty men, are born unto us on earth, but it is an unheard-of thing for the angels to come down to them." And straightway they all rose up, and did homage to Him as the Lord and King of the world. And having prepared food for their journey, they went down to their own country by a desert road.
The issue on whether or not Circumcision is a pre-requisite for Christians to be part of the Abrahamic Convenant, had been debated and resolved in the first century AD. Apostle Simon Peter related his vision as to how YHWH God told him to baptize the Gentiles Messianics or uncircumcised persons.
Act 10:44 And while Simon was uttering these things, the Holy Spirit overshadowed all them that were hearing the word.
Act 10:45 And the circumcised brethren who came with him, were amazed and astonished, that the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out upon the Gentiles also.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with diverse tongues, and magnify God.
Act 10:47 And Simon said: Can any one forbid water, that those should not be baptized, they who have received, lo, the Holy Spirit, as well as we?
Act 10:48 Then he commanded them to be baptized in the name of our Lord Jesus Messiah. And they requested him to remain with them [some] days.
Act 11:1 And it was reported to the legates and the brethren in Judaea, that the Gentiles also had received the Word of God.
Act 11:2 And when Simon went up to Jerusalem, they who were of the circumcision contended with him,
Act 11:3 saying; that he had gone in to be with uncircumcised persons, and had eaten with them.
Act 11:4 And Simon began to address them methodically:
Act 11:5 As I was in Joppa, praying, I saw in vision, that a certain vessel descended, which was like a sheet, and it was tied at its four corners; and it descended from heaven and came to me.
Act 11:6 And I looked upon it, and I saw that in it were fourfooted animals, and reptiles of the earth, and fowls of heaven.
Act 11:7 And I heard a voice, which said to me: Simon, arise slay and eat.
Act 11:8 And I said: Far be it, my Lord. For never hath any thing polluted or unclean entered my mouth.
Act 11:9 And again, a voice from heaven said to me: What God hath cleansed, make thou not unclean.
Act 11:10 And this was done three times: and the whole was taken up to heaven.
Act 11:11 And at the same instant, three men, who were sent to me by Cornelius from Caesarea, came and stood at the gate of the court where I lodged.
Act 11:12 And the Spirit said to me: Go with them, without hesitation. And these six brethren went also with me, and we entered the man's house.
Act 11:13 And he related to us, how he had seen an angel in his house, who stood and said to him: Send to the city of Joppa, and bring Simon who is called Cephas;
Act 11:14 and he will utter to thee discourses, by which thou wilt live, thou and all thy house.
Act 11:15 And when I there commenced speaking, the Holy Spirit overshadowed them, as it did us from the beginning.
Act 11:16 And I remembered the word of our Lord, when he said: John baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.
Act 11:17 If then God equally gave the gift to the Gentiles that believed in our Lord Jesus Messiah, as he did to us: who was I, that I could forbid God?
Act 11:18 And when they heard these words, they desisted; and they glorified God and said: Now to the Gentiles also doth God give repentance unto life.
Circumcision Issue was debated in Jerusalem amongst the Apostles of Yahushua Messiah and the Consensus Drawn
Act 15:5 And some who from the sect of the Pharisees had believed, rose up and said: It is necessary for you to CIRCUMCISE them, and to command them to observe the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the legates and Elders assembled, to look into this matter.
Act 15:7 And when there had been much discussion, Simon arose and said to them: Men, brethren, ye know that, from the earlier days, God chose that from my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel, and should believe.
Act 15:8 And God, who knoweth what is in hearts, bore testimony concerning them, and gave the Holy Spirit to them, even as to us.
Act 15:9 And he made no distinction between them and us; because he purified their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 And now, why tempt ye God, by putting a yoke on the necks of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we could bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe, that we as well as they, are to have life by the grace of our Lord Jesus Messiah.
Act 15:12 And the whole assembly were silent, and listened to Paul and Barnabas, who related how God by their hands had wrought signs and prodigies among the Gentiles.
Act 15:13 And after they ceased, James arose and said: Men, brethren, hearken to me.
Act 15:14 Simon hath related to you, how God hath begun to elect a people for his name from among the Gentiles.
Act 15:15 And with this the words of the prophets accord, as it is written:
Act 15:16 After these things I will return, and will set up the tabernacle of David that had fallen; and will build that which was in ruins in it, and will raise it up:
Act 15:17 so that the residue of men may seek the Lord, and all the nations on whom my name is called; saith the Lord, who doth all these things.
Act 15:18 Known, from of old, are the works of God.
Act 15:19 Therefore I say to you, let them not crush those who from among the Gentiles have turned unto God.
Act 15:20 But let word be sent to them, that they keep aloof from the defilement of a sacrifice [to idols], and from whoredom, and from what is strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For in every city, from former ages, Moses hath heralds in the synagogues, who read him every sabbath.
Act 15:22 Then the legates and Elders, with all the church, chose men from among themselves, and sent them to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas; [namely], Jude, who was called Barsabas, and Silas, men who were chiefs among the brethren.
Act 15:23 And they wrote a letter by them, thus: The legates and Elders and brethren, to them that are in Antioch, and in Syria, and in Cilicia, brethren who are from the Gentiles, greeting:
Act 15:24 We have heard, that some have gone from us and disquieted you, by discourses, and have subverted your minds, by saying, That ye must be circumcised and keep the law; things which we have not commanded them.
Act 15:25 Therefore we all have thought fit, when assembled, to choose and send men to you, with our beloved Paul and Barnabas,
Act 15:26 men who have given up their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Messiah.
Act 15:27 And we have sent with them Jude and Silas, that they may tell you the same things orally.
Act 15:28 For it was pleasing to the Holy Spirit, and to us, that there should not be laid upon you any additional burden, besides these necessary things:
Act 15:29 that ye keep aloof from a sacrifice [to idols], and from blood, and from what is strangled, and from whoredom. And if ye keep yourselves from these, ye will do well. Be ye steadfast in the Lord.
Act 15:30 And they who were sent, came to Antioch, and assembled all the people, and delivered the letter.
Act 15:31 And when they had read [it], they rejoiced and were comforted.
Is the Circumcision Superior than Uncircumcised?
1Cor 7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
1Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of YHWH.
1Cor 7:20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Lord Yah'shua Messiah personally called for all to be baptized by His Holy Spirit and with water, and nothing about circumcision.
John 3:5 Jesus replied, and said to him "Verily, verily, I say to thee, That, unless a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
Mark 16:15 And he said to them: Go ye into all the world, and proclaim my tidings in the whole creation.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth, and is baptized, liveth; but he that believeth not, is condemned.
Act 1:4 And when He (YaHshua) had eaten bread with them, he instructed them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which (said he) ye have heard from me.
Act 1:5 For John baptized with water; but ye will be baptized with the Holy Spirit after not many days.
Why YaHushua was baptized if the Law of Circumcision ceased until John the Baptist?
Matt 11:13 YaHshua said "For all the prophets and the law prophesied, until the time of John."
Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John: since then, the kingdom of God is proclaimed, and every one presseth it to enter in.
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one letter to pass from the law."
As a matter of fact YaHshua came BEFORE John the Baptist according to the words of Prophet John the Baptist. Although YaHshua began His ministry about 6 months later than John, the existence of YaHshua was even earlier than Abraham. So who say YaHshua exist later than John???
Three (3) Times, Prophet John declared that Yahushua was BEFORE him.
John 1:15 John testified of him, and cried, and said: This is He, of whom I said, That he cometh after me, and is BEFORE me; for he was prior to me.
John 1:26 John answered, and said to them; I baptize with water; but among you standeth one, whom ye do not know.
John 1:27 He it is that cometh after me, and was BEFORE me, whose shoe-strings I am not worthy to untie.
John 1:29 The day after, John saw Jesus coming towards him, and said: Behold, the Lamb of God, that beareth the sin of the world.
John 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man, who is BEFORE me, for he was prior to me.
YaHshua declared that He existed BEFORE Abraham:
John 8:57 The Jews say to him: Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
John 8:58 Jesus said to them: Verily, verily I say to you, That before Abraham existed, I was.
YaHshua had to fulfill all the prophecies spoken by the Prophets before Him.
John 19:28 After these things, Jesus knew that every thing was finished; and, that the scripture might be fulfilled, he said: I thirst.
BUT YaHshua was not physically circumcised because He is the Son of YHWH God. The scripture says He was named YAHSHUA on the 8th day which is the Circumcision Day but it does not say He was circumcised on the 8th Day from birth.
Luke 2:21 And when the eight days for the circumcision of the child were completed, His Name was called YAHUSHUA; as He was named by the angel, before He was conceived in the womb.
External Sources or About the Circumcision of Yahshua
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bct/bct09.htm
Book of the Cave of Treasure
[The Circumcision of Christ.]
Now Christ was eight days old when the Magi presented their offerings; and Mary received them at the very time when Joseph circumcised Christ. In truth, Joseph circumcised Him according to the Law, but he only went through (or imitated) the act of cutting, for no [flesh] whatsoever was cut off from Him. For as [a rod of] iron passeth through the fire and cutteth the rays thereof, without any part of it being cut off from it, so in like manner was Christ circumcised without anything being taken from Him.
[The Conversion of the Magi.]
And the Magi lived with the Child three days, and they saw the hosts of heaven going up and coming down to Christ. And they heard the sound of the praises of the angels, who sang hymns and cried out, "Holy, Holy, Holy, Mighty God, with whose praises the heavens and the earth are filled." And they were in great fear, and in truth they believed in Christ, and said, "This is the King Who hath come down from heaven and become man." And Perôzdhâdh answered and said unto them, "Now know I that the prophecy of Isaiah is true. For when I was in the school of the Hebrews I read in [the Book of] Isaiah, and I found [written] therein thus: 'For unto us a child is born, and unto us a son hath been given. And His Name shall be called Wonderful, and Counsellor, and God, Giant of the Worlds'" (Isa. ix. 6). And it is written in another place, "Behold, a virgin is with child, and she shall bring forth a son, and his name shall be called 'Emmanuel,' which is, being interpreted, 'God with us'" (Isa. vii. 14). And because He became like a man, and the angels were coming down from heaven to Him, truly He is the Lord of angels and men. And all the Magi believed and said, "Truly this King is God. Kings are born unto us frequently, and mighty men, the sons of mighty men, are born unto us on earth, but it is an unheard-of thing for the angels to come down to them." And straightway they all rose up, and did homage to Him as the Lord and King of the world. And having prepared food for their journey, they went down to their own country by a desert road.
Thursday, June 30, 2011
WHY the difference of 40 days of purification for the birth of baby boys and 80 days of purification for baby girls?
The context of purification for the mother is indirectly "holidays" for the mother as she is free from religious obligation to travel to worship in the sanctuary in Jerusalem and free from marital duty to fulfill the needs of her husband for the stipulated period depending on the gender of the baby. Of course the longer holidays means it is more beneficial to the mother.
Reference Leviticus Chapter 12
Lev 12:1 And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 12:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
Lev 12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Lev 12:4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
Lev 12:5 But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.
Lev 12:6 And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
Lev 12:7 Who shall offer it before YHWH, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
Lev 12:8 And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.
First of all, this ceremonial law is applicable to the mother in respect of travelling to worship in the sanctuary of Yah'weh God in Jerusalem and to abstain from sexual intimacy as a form of control against early pregnancy after child-birth. Doubling the period of purification for the birth of a baby girl does not mean the girl is more sinful than the birth of a baby boy as the burnt offering and the sin offering for both gender of the babies are identical vide Leviticus 12: 6 "And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest"
The mother giving birth to a baby boy is subject to the 7 days of her impurity and follow by 33 days of her purification i.e. a total of 40 days of purification whereas the birth of a baby girl is subject to 14 days of her impurity and follow by 66 days of her purification i.e. a total of 80 days of her purification.
The rational for the fixed days of purification for the male or female child-birth is recorded in the Book of Jubilees Chapter 3 as spoken by Yahweh God. Adam was put to a deep sleep for 6 days when Yahweh took a rib from him and created a woman. Then 2 weeks later Yahweh sent the woman called Eve to meet Adam and he knew her for the first time. Adam was sent into the Garden of Eden on the 40th day after the creation of Eve. However Yahweh sent Eve into the Garden of Eden on the 80th day. The duration of purification for the birth of a male or female child follows the days of purification of Adam and Eve since the time before they enter the Garden of Eden.
This is the theological reason for 40 days of purification for the birth of a male child and 80 days for a female child. It is record in the tablet in Heaven according to the Book of Jubilees of the Hebrews.
[The Book of Jubilees: Chapter 3]
1 And on the six days of the second week we brought, according to the word of God, unto Adam all the beasts, and all the cattle, and all the birds, and everything that moves on the earth, and everything that moves in the water, according to their kinds, and according to their types: the beasts on the first day; the cattle on the second day; the birds on the third day; and all that which moves on the earth on the fourth day; and that which moves in the water on the fifth day.
2 And Adam named them all by their respective names, and as he called them, so was their name.
3 And on these five days Adam saw all these, male and female, according to every kind that was on
4 the earth, but he was alone and found no helpmeet for him. And the Lord said unto us: 'It is not
5 good that the man should be alone: let us make a helpmeet for him.' And the Lord our God caused a deep sleep to fall upon him, and he slept, and He took for the woman one rib from amongst
6 his ribs, and this rib was the origin of the woman from amongst his ribs, and He built up the flesh in its stead, and built the woman. And He awaked Adam out of his sleep and on awaking he rose on the sixth day, and He brought her to him, and he knew her, and said unto her: 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called
7 [my] wife; because she was taken from her husband.' Therefore shall man and wife be one and therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and cleave unto his wife, and they shall be
8 one flesh. In the first week was Adam created, and the rib -his wife: in the second week He showed her unto him: and for this reason the commandment was given to keep in their defilement,
9 for a male seven days, and for a female twice seven days. And after Adam had completed forty days in the land where he had been created, we brought him into the garden of Eden to till and keep it, but his wife they brought in on the eightieth day, and after this she entered into the garden
10 of Eden. And for this reason the commandment is written on the heavenly tablets in regard to her that gives birth: 'if she bears a male, she shall remain in her uncleanness seven days according to the first week of days, and thirty and three days shall she remain in the blood of her purifying, and she shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor enter into the sanctuary, until she accomplishes these
11 days which (are enjoined) in the case of a male child. But in the case of a female child she shall remain in her uncleanness two weeks of days, according to the first two weeks, and sixty-six days
12 in the blood of her purification, and they will be in all eighty days.' And when she had completed these eighty days we brought her into the garden of Eden, for it is holier than all the earth besides and
13 every tree that is planted in it is holy. Therefore, there was ordained regarding her who bears a male or a female child the statute of those days that she should touch no hallowed thing, nor
14 enter into the sanctuary until these days for the male or female child are accomplished.
This is the law and testimony which was written down for Israel, in order that they should observe (it) all the 15 days. And in the first week of the first jubilee, [1-7 A.M.] Adam and his wife were in the garden of Eden for seven years tilling and keeping it, and we gave him work and we instructed him to do everything.
Source: http://www.piney.com/ApocJubileeBook.html
BOOK OF GENESIS
Gen 2:16 And YHWH Elohim commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 2:18 And YHWH Elohim said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground YHWH Elohim formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Gen 2:21 And YHWH Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which YHWH Elohim had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
The first 40 days of purification for a male child symbolizes the trial or judgment of Yahweh God. Yahweh spoke to Moses for 40 days and 40 nights on the Mount Sinai as a trial for the people of Israel. After Moses led the Israelites to cross the Red Sea which is a form of water baptism, they were free from circumcision for 40 years during the wandering in the wilderness (Joshua 5:5-6). Moses failed to enter the promised land due to his disobedience on the commandments of Yahweh.
Yah'shua fasted for 40 days and nights during the temptation in the Judean wilderness. He was condemned , crucified, died and raised on the third day and then appeared spiritually for a period of 40 days to his apostles, disciples and believers. While the first part of the law for 40 days was in preparation for the ministry of Yah'shua, the second part of grace for 40 days was to give birth to the Church as symbolized by Eve - the woman.
Great emphasis is placed on the 40 days of grace before the birth of the Church could come forth from the descent of the Holy Spirit on all the apostles, disciples and believers on the Day of Pentecost which is 50 days from the day of resurrection of Yah'shua. Hence the 80 days of purification for the birth of a baby girl is very significant which prophesied to the formation of the Church that is preceded by 40 days of teachings and companionship by our Lord Yah'shua.
The 40 days of trial or judgment is normal for all Hebrews male descendants. It is the additional 40 days of purification for the birth of baby girls which is beneficial for the woman as she is free from the obligation to travel a long distance to worship in the sanctuary of Yahweh and free from the marital duty to meet the sexual demand of her husband.
The God that removed such law so as to deny the rights of the woman of 40 days extra holidays for the birth of a female child is a proof that He is not the same God of Yah'weh who has established His law on the tablets in Heaven. The Church could not be established by Yah'shua without His 40 days of appearance on earth after His resurrection. The 40 days of fasting by Yah'shua and temptation of the Devil is parallel to the 40 years of wandering in the wilderness of the Israelites. In the prophetic idiom, a day is equivalent to a year of suffering.
After the period of 40 days Moses came down from Mt Sinai with 2 tablets of stones in his hands with the Ten Commandments.
Exo 24:17 And the sight of the glory of YHWH was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
Exo 24:18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and got him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.
Three thousand Hebrews idolaters were killed in a single day!
Exo 32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith YHWH Elohim of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
Exo 32:28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.
Yahweh God gave Moses another chance to receive the Ten Commandments on 2 tablets of stone after another 40 days and nights of fasting.
Exo 34:27 And YHWH said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.
Exo 34:28 And he was there with YHWH forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
Exo 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses knew not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
So there was a total of 80 days and nights of fasting before the Law of Yahweh was permanently given to them:
Exo 34:32 And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that YHWH had spoken with him in mount Sinai.
Exo 34:33 And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.
Lord Yahshua had the similar encounter of 40 days and nights of fasting while in the wilderness and aother 40 days with His apostles after His resurrection - a total of 80 days. Then there was 3,000 souls were baptized on a single day to accept Yahshua the Messiah.
For 40 days of fasting in the wilderness:-
Luke 4:1 And Yahushua being full of the Holy Spirit returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Luke 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of Elohim, command this stone that it be made bread.
For 40 days after resurrection:
Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of YHWH:
We see that a total of 80 days -- 40 days fasting and 40 days of teachings as prelude to the formation of the Church whereby 3,000 sould were added to the Church in a single day!
Act 2:38 Then Kepha said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahushua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as YHWH our Elohim shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Reference Leviticus Chapter 12
Lev 12:1 And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 12:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
Lev 12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Lev 12:4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
Lev 12:5 But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.
Lev 12:6 And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
Lev 12:7 Who shall offer it before YHWH, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
Lev 12:8 And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.
First of all, this ceremonial law is applicable to the mother in respect of travelling to worship in the sanctuary of Yah'weh God in Jerusalem and to abstain from sexual intimacy as a form of control against early pregnancy after child-birth. Doubling the period of purification for the birth of a baby girl does not mean the girl is more sinful than the birth of a baby boy as the burnt offering and the sin offering for both gender of the babies are identical vide Leviticus 12: 6 "And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest"
The mother giving birth to a baby boy is subject to the 7 days of her impurity and follow by 33 days of her purification i.e. a total of 40 days of purification whereas the birth of a baby girl is subject to 14 days of her impurity and follow by 66 days of her purification i.e. a total of 80 days of her purification.
The rational for the fixed days of purification for the male or female child-birth is recorded in the Book of Jubilees Chapter 3 as spoken by Yahweh God. Adam was put to a deep sleep for 6 days when Yahweh took a rib from him and created a woman. Then 2 weeks later Yahweh sent the woman called Eve to meet Adam and he knew her for the first time. Adam was sent into the Garden of Eden on the 40th day after the creation of Eve. However Yahweh sent Eve into the Garden of Eden on the 80th day. The duration of purification for the birth of a male or female child follows the days of purification of Adam and Eve since the time before they enter the Garden of Eden.
This is the theological reason for 40 days of purification for the birth of a male child and 80 days for a female child. It is record in the tablet in Heaven according to the Book of Jubilees of the Hebrews.
[The Book of Jubilees: Chapter 3]
1 And on the six days of the second week we brought, according to the word of God, unto Adam all the beasts, and all the cattle, and all the birds, and everything that moves on the earth, and everything that moves in the water, according to their kinds, and according to their types: the beasts on the first day; the cattle on the second day; the birds on the third day; and all that which moves on the earth on the fourth day; and that which moves in the water on the fifth day.
2 And Adam named them all by their respective names, and as he called them, so was their name.
3 And on these five days Adam saw all these, male and female, according to every kind that was on
4 the earth, but he was alone and found no helpmeet for him. And the Lord said unto us: 'It is not
5 good that the man should be alone: let us make a helpmeet for him.' And the Lord our God caused a deep sleep to fall upon him, and he slept, and He took for the woman one rib from amongst
6 his ribs, and this rib was the origin of the woman from amongst his ribs, and He built up the flesh in its stead, and built the woman. And He awaked Adam out of his sleep and on awaking he rose on the sixth day, and He brought her to him, and he knew her, and said unto her: 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called
7 [my] wife; because she was taken from her husband.' Therefore shall man and wife be one and therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and cleave unto his wife, and they shall be
8 one flesh. In the first week was Adam created, and the rib -his wife: in the second week He showed her unto him: and for this reason the commandment was given to keep in their defilement,
9 for a male seven days, and for a female twice seven days. And after Adam had completed forty days in the land where he had been created, we brought him into the garden of Eden to till and keep it, but his wife they brought in on the eightieth day, and after this she entered into the garden
10 of Eden. And for this reason the commandment is written on the heavenly tablets in regard to her that gives birth: 'if she bears a male, she shall remain in her uncleanness seven days according to the first week of days, and thirty and three days shall she remain in the blood of her purifying, and she shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor enter into the sanctuary, until she accomplishes these
11 days which (are enjoined) in the case of a male child. But in the case of a female child she shall remain in her uncleanness two weeks of days, according to the first two weeks, and sixty-six days
12 in the blood of her purification, and they will be in all eighty days.' And when she had completed these eighty days we brought her into the garden of Eden, for it is holier than all the earth besides and
13 every tree that is planted in it is holy. Therefore, there was ordained regarding her who bears a male or a female child the statute of those days that she should touch no hallowed thing, nor
14 enter into the sanctuary until these days for the male or female child are accomplished.
This is the law and testimony which was written down for Israel, in order that they should observe (it) all the 15 days. And in the first week of the first jubilee, [1-7 A.M.] Adam and his wife were in the garden of Eden for seven years tilling and keeping it, and we gave him work and we instructed him to do everything.
Source: http://www.piney.com/ApocJubileeBook.html
BOOK OF GENESIS
Gen 2:16 And YHWH Elohim commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 2:18 And YHWH Elohim said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground YHWH Elohim formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Gen 2:21 And YHWH Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which YHWH Elohim had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
The first 40 days of purification for a male child symbolizes the trial or judgment of Yahweh God. Yahweh spoke to Moses for 40 days and 40 nights on the Mount Sinai as a trial for the people of Israel. After Moses led the Israelites to cross the Red Sea which is a form of water baptism, they were free from circumcision for 40 years during the wandering in the wilderness (Joshua 5:5-6). Moses failed to enter the promised land due to his disobedience on the commandments of Yahweh.
Yah'shua fasted for 40 days and nights during the temptation in the Judean wilderness. He was condemned , crucified, died and raised on the third day and then appeared spiritually for a period of 40 days to his apostles, disciples and believers. While the first part of the law for 40 days was in preparation for the ministry of Yah'shua, the second part of grace for 40 days was to give birth to the Church as symbolized by Eve - the woman.
Great emphasis is placed on the 40 days of grace before the birth of the Church could come forth from the descent of the Holy Spirit on all the apostles, disciples and believers on the Day of Pentecost which is 50 days from the day of resurrection of Yah'shua. Hence the 80 days of purification for the birth of a baby girl is very significant which prophesied to the formation of the Church that is preceded by 40 days of teachings and companionship by our Lord Yah'shua.
The 40 days of trial or judgment is normal for all Hebrews male descendants. It is the additional 40 days of purification for the birth of baby girls which is beneficial for the woman as she is free from the obligation to travel a long distance to worship in the sanctuary of Yahweh and free from the marital duty to meet the sexual demand of her husband.
The God that removed such law so as to deny the rights of the woman of 40 days extra holidays for the birth of a female child is a proof that He is not the same God of Yah'weh who has established His law on the tablets in Heaven. The Church could not be established by Yah'shua without His 40 days of appearance on earth after His resurrection. The 40 days of fasting by Yah'shua and temptation of the Devil is parallel to the 40 years of wandering in the wilderness of the Israelites. In the prophetic idiom, a day is equivalent to a year of suffering.
After the period of 40 days Moses came down from Mt Sinai with 2 tablets of stones in his hands with the Ten Commandments.
Exo 24:17 And the sight of the glory of YHWH was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
Exo 24:18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and got him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.
Three thousand Hebrews idolaters were killed in a single day!
Exo 32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith YHWH Elohim of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
Exo 32:28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.
Yahweh God gave Moses another chance to receive the Ten Commandments on 2 tablets of stone after another 40 days and nights of fasting.
Exo 34:27 And YHWH said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.
Exo 34:28 And he was there with YHWH forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
Exo 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses knew not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
So there was a total of 80 days and nights of fasting before the Law of Yahweh was permanently given to them:
Exo 34:32 And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that YHWH had spoken with him in mount Sinai.
Exo 34:33 And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.
Lord Yahshua had the similar encounter of 40 days and nights of fasting while in the wilderness and aother 40 days with His apostles after His resurrection - a total of 80 days. Then there was 3,000 souls were baptized on a single day to accept Yahshua the Messiah.
For 40 days of fasting in the wilderness:-
Luke 4:1 And Yahushua being full of the Holy Spirit returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Luke 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of Elohim, command this stone that it be made bread.
For 40 days after resurrection:
Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of YHWH:
We see that a total of 80 days -- 40 days fasting and 40 days of teachings as prelude to the formation of the Church whereby 3,000 sould were added to the Church in a single day!
Act 2:38 Then Kepha said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahushua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as YHWH our Elohim shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Saturday, June 25, 2011
Can you inherit women like property in Islam?
QURAN 22:52 refuted the lies of WTA about women in the Quran.
By own admission of Ahmad, Satan threw vanities into his words. This kind of revelation cannot be found in the Holy Bible. Secondly almost all words in the Quran has been abrogated!!! So which verses are still valid today???
Quran 22:52 -Pickthal
Never sent we a messenger or a prophet before thee but when he recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise;
QUOTE
Qur'an 4 : 19
O ye who believe !
Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.
Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness;
on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity.
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REBUTTAL:
The word "inherit" women means Muslims women are "property" or as slaves which can be inherited and not married willingly through saying "YES" to the marriage proposal. Even Muhammad himself had sex with the Christian MariYah against her WILL!!!
Looking at any reputable source will tell you that Muhammad (PBUH) and Mariyah (RA) were NOT legally married but taken as CONCUBINE!!!
In one example, the noted historian Ibn Kathir records:
Ibn Kathir wrote:
Maria al-Qibtiyya (may Allah be pleased with her) is said to have married the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and certainly everyone gave her the same title of respect as the Prophet's wives, 'Umm al Muminin' 'Mother of the Believers'. Maria was born in upper Egypt of a Coptic father and Greek mother and moved to the court of the Muqawqis when she was still very young. She arrived in Medina to join the Prophet's household just after the Prophet returned from the treaty with Quraish which was contracted at al-Hudaybiyya.
The scholars that write for the website www.islamqa.com received a question regarding whether Mariyah was Muhammad's wife to which they answered:
Question:
There is no doubt that Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was the concubine of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and she bore him his son Ibraaheem. Can the title of "Mother of the Believers" be given to Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah or not?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) DID NOT MARRY MARIYAH AL-QIBTIYYAH, RATHER SHE WAS A CONCUBINE who was given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Egypt. That took place after the treaty of al-Hudaybiyah. Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was a Christian, then she became Muslim (may Allaah be pleased with her).
Ibn Sa'd said:
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) lodged her – meaning Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah and her sister – with Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, and the Messenger of Allaah (S) entered upon them and told them about Islam. He took Mariyah AS A CONCUBINE and moved her to some property of his in al-'Awaali… and she became a good Muslim.
Al-Tabaqaat al-Kubra, 1/134-135
Ibn 'Abd al-Barr said:
Mariyah died during the caliphate of 'Umar ibn al-Khattaab, in Muharram of 16 AH. 'Umar gathered the people himself to attend her funeral, and he led the funeral prayer for her. She was buried in al-Baqee'.
Al-Isti'aab, 4/ 1912
Mariyah (may Allaah be pleased with her) WAS ONE OF THE PROPHET'S CONCUBINES, NOT ONE OF HIS WIVES. The Mothers of the Believers are the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
"The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their (believers') mothers (as regards respect and marriage)"
[al-Ahzaab 33:6]
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had four concubines, ONE OF WHOM WAS MARIYAH.
Ibn al-Qayyim said:
Abu 'Ubaydah said: HE HAD FOUR (CONCUBINES): MARIYAH, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh.
Zaad al-Ma'aad, 1/114
For more information of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – the Mothers of the Believers – please see the answer to question no. 47072
And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)
IS ISLAM respecting WOMEN around the world??? Let YHWH be your judge!
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QUOTE from WTA:
If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good.
Qur'an 5 : 5
This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them.
(UNlawful unto you in marriage) are chaste women who are believers,
but chaste women among the People of the Book ( jews & christians)
Unquote
REBUTTAL
Christians are NEVER permitted to marry pagan Muslims whose called is ALLAH which in Hebrew means OAK TREE.
2Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Cor 6:15 And what concord hath the Messiah with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
JESUS CHRIST is the WISDOM of YHWH Elohim vs King Solomon
QUOTE from WTA
King Solomon is about 14,000,000,000 (Billion) years old?
( KJV ) Proverbs 8 : 27
27 " When he prepared the heavens, " I WAS T H E R E ! " :
UNQUOTE
REBUTTAL
O great foolish Muslim WTA son of the Devil.
Proverbs 8:27 is not the words of KING Solomon but from the Holy Spirit of Yah'shua!!!
The context of Proverbs is about an attribute called WISDOM. It is a figure of SPEECH.
Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Can Wisdom cry??? It is a figure of speech and not to be taken literally.
The context of the passage is about WISDOM. How could foolish WTA misquote the Bible out of context???
Pro 8:12 I, WISDOM dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Pro 8:13 The fear of YHWH is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound WISDOM: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Pro 8:22 YHWH possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When He prepared the heavens, I was there: when He set a compass upon the face of the depth:
This WISDOM is Yah'shua Messiah speaking through King Solomon vide Proverbs 2:6 which he admitted that YHWH gave WISDOM.
Pro 2:6 For YHWH giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
YAHSHUA declared all THINGS of the FATHER are MINE. So the WISDOM which YHWH gave to King Solomon belongs to YAHSHUA!!!
John 16:15 "All things that the Father hath are mine"
Proverbs 8:27
When he prepared the heavens, I (WISDOM) was there - For there is no part of the creation of God in which wisdom, skill, contrivance, are more manifest, than in the construction of the visible heavens.
WISDOM belongs to Yah'shua Messiah:
Proverbs 3:19 YHWH by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
VERSUS: YAHSHUA was the CREATOR:
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the World was made by him, and the world knew him not.
WISDOM comes from Yahshua the Son of Yahweh.
Psa 111:10 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Pro 1:7 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Pro 9:10 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Pro 15:33 The fear of YHWH is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
WISDOM is the Spirit of YHWH, not King Solomon.
Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YHWH;
WISDOM belongs to YHWH Elohim and never refer to King Solomon.
Exo 36:1 Then wrought Bezaleel and Aholiab, and every wise hearted man, in whom YHWH put WISDOM and understanding to know how to work all manner of work for the service of the sanctuary, according to all that YHWH had commanded.
WISDOM can be imparted by the Spirit of YHWH through laying on of hands.
Deu 34:9 And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as YHWH commanded Moses.
Angel of YHWH also has WISDOM.
2Sa 14:20 To fetch about this form of speech hath thy servant Joab done this thing: and my master is wise, according to the wisdom of an angel of Elohim, to know all things that are in the earth.
WISDOM does not belong to King Solomon as it was YHWH who gave WISDOM to him:
1Ki 5:12 And YHWH GAVE Solomon wisdom, as he promised him: and there was peace between Hiram and Solomon; and they two made a league together.
Yah'shua owned all the WISDOM of YHWH vide John 16:15
1Ch 22:12 Only YHWH give thee wisdom and understanding, and give thee charge concerning Israel, that thou mayest keep the law of YHWH thy Elohim.
2Ch 9:23 And all the kings of the earth sought the presence of Solomon, to hear his wisdom, THAT Elohim had put in his heart.
WISDOM of Solomon can be seen by Queen of Sheba:
2Ch 9:3 And when the queen of Sheba had seen the wisdom of Solomon, and the house that he had built,
Pro 1:1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
Pro 1:2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
Pro 1:3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
Pro 1:4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
Pro 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
Pro 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
Pro 1:7 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Pro 1:8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
YHWH is the source of WISDOM:
Pro 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Pro 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Pro 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
Pro 8:11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
ALL prudence or wisemen have WISDOM:
Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
CONFIRMATION BY Yah'shua through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit:-
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
As the Universe was created by YAHSHUA, He was the Wisdom which King Solomon was talking about HIM, not himself.
PROPHET JOHN said YAHSHUA created the WORLD and he supported Proverbs 8:27 about YAHSHUA as the Creator:
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
King Solomon is about 14,000,000,000 (Billion) years old?
( KJV ) Proverbs 8 : 27
27 " When he prepared the heavens, " I WAS T H E R E ! " :
UNQUOTE
REBUTTAL
O great foolish Muslim WTA son of the Devil.
Proverbs 8:27 is not the words of KING Solomon but from the Holy Spirit of Yah'shua!!!
The context of Proverbs is about an attribute called WISDOM. It is a figure of SPEECH.
Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Can Wisdom cry??? It is a figure of speech and not to be taken literally.
The context of the passage is about WISDOM. How could foolish WTA misquote the Bible out of context???
Pro 8:12 I, WISDOM dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Pro 8:13 The fear of YHWH is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound WISDOM: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Pro 8:22 YHWH possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When He prepared the heavens, I was there: when He set a compass upon the face of the depth:
This WISDOM is Yah'shua Messiah speaking through King Solomon vide Proverbs 2:6 which he admitted that YHWH gave WISDOM.
Pro 2:6 For YHWH giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
YAHSHUA declared all THINGS of the FATHER are MINE. So the WISDOM which YHWH gave to King Solomon belongs to YAHSHUA!!!
John 16:15 "All things that the Father hath are mine"
Proverbs 8:27
When he prepared the heavens, I (WISDOM) was there - For there is no part of the creation of God in which wisdom, skill, contrivance, are more manifest, than in the construction of the visible heavens.
WISDOM belongs to Yah'shua Messiah:
Proverbs 3:19 YHWH by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
VERSUS: YAHSHUA was the CREATOR:
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the World was made by him, and the world knew him not.
WISDOM comes from Yahshua the Son of Yahweh.
Psa 111:10 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Pro 1:7 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Pro 9:10 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Pro 15:33 The fear of YHWH is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
WISDOM is the Spirit of YHWH, not King Solomon.
Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YHWH;
WISDOM belongs to YHWH Elohim and never refer to King Solomon.
Exo 36:1 Then wrought Bezaleel and Aholiab, and every wise hearted man, in whom YHWH put WISDOM and understanding to know how to work all manner of work for the service of the sanctuary, according to all that YHWH had commanded.
WISDOM can be imparted by the Spirit of YHWH through laying on of hands.
Deu 34:9 And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as YHWH commanded Moses.
Angel of YHWH also has WISDOM.
2Sa 14:20 To fetch about this form of speech hath thy servant Joab done this thing: and my master is wise, according to the wisdom of an angel of Elohim, to know all things that are in the earth.
WISDOM does not belong to King Solomon as it was YHWH who gave WISDOM to him:
1Ki 5:12 And YHWH GAVE Solomon wisdom, as he promised him: and there was peace between Hiram and Solomon; and they two made a league together.
Yah'shua owned all the WISDOM of YHWH vide John 16:15
1Ch 22:12 Only YHWH give thee wisdom and understanding, and give thee charge concerning Israel, that thou mayest keep the law of YHWH thy Elohim.
2Ch 9:23 And all the kings of the earth sought the presence of Solomon, to hear his wisdom, THAT Elohim had put in his heart.
WISDOM of Solomon can be seen by Queen of Sheba:
2Ch 9:3 And when the queen of Sheba had seen the wisdom of Solomon, and the house that he had built,
Pro 1:1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
Pro 1:2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
Pro 1:3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
Pro 1:4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
Pro 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
Pro 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
Pro 1:7 The fear of YHWH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Pro 1:8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
YHWH is the source of WISDOM:
Pro 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
Pro 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Pro 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
Pro 8:11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
ALL prudence or wisemen have WISDOM:
Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
CONFIRMATION BY Yah'shua through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit:-
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
As the Universe was created by YAHSHUA, He was the Wisdom which King Solomon was talking about HIM, not himself.
PROPHET JOHN said YAHSHUA created the WORLD and he supported Proverbs 8:27 about YAHSHUA as the Creator:
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Did Jesus ever called Allah or Eli at the time of 33AD???
Quote from WTA
Is the meaning the same whether...
Yah'shua " submit " to the will of Allah ( God )
with....
" Yah'shua came to do the will of His Father ? "
If your answer is Noooo !, please explain H O W ?
If your answer is YEESSSS !, that means Jesus was/is a muslim !
Hello Mr Positron66 !
For time being no need to discuss your other points.
First !
you answer the above question...... ok ?
Unquote
REBUTTAL:
1) O Muslim WTA the liar, please prove to me that Yah'shua ever called His Father ALLAH???
2) Please prove to me that Yah'shua is called AAEESA in Arabic in the Quran is the same person as YAHSHUA???
3) Please produce the proof that Arabic language existed in 30AD by showing the earliest stone inscription
Failing to show proof of the above 3 points means ALLAH is non-existence in 30AD. The Moabite Stone proves that YHWH was the God of the children of Israel rather than Allah. Chemosh was the god of the children of Lot's descendants called the Moabites.
The Moabite Stone debunked the Quran that Allah is the god of Lot. As the Moabite Stone was dated around 830BC which is only 1170 years apart from the father of Lot, it is fairly accurate to debunk the lies in the Quran.
As Muhammad's distorted teachings can last over 1400 years, there is no reason that Lot's teaching did not last till 830BC. If Lot as a prophet of Allah, then the Moabites would not worship the god Chemosh as inscribed in the Moabite Stone.
So the Black Moabite Stone in fact stone the lies of Satan and crushed his head just as the serpent's head was crushed by the feet of the Son of Yah'weh.
The Moabite Stone crushed the following lies of Satan in the Quran. Arabs were so scared of the Moabite Stone that it was burnt and poured cool water to break in into pieces. But the impressions made from the Moabite Stone managed to restore it. Today, Muslims are quiet about the Moabite Stone.
Quran 21:71 -Pickthal
And We rescued him and Lot (and brought them) to the land which We have blessed for (all) peoples.
Quran 21:74 - Pickthal
And unto Lot we gave judgment and knowledge, and We delivered him from the community that did abominations. Lo! they were folk of evil, lewd.
Quran 29:26- Pickthal
And Lot believed him, and said: Lo! I am a fugitive unto my Lord. Lo! He, only He, is the Mighty, the Wise.
If ALLAH did deliver the folk of Lot from idolatry, then why his descendants called Moabites served the god Chemosh as inscribed on the Moabite Stone and not Allah????
Holy Bible has debunked the lies of Satan who inspired an illiterate man to lie about Lot's wife who stayed behind????
Quran 29:32 -Pickthal
He said: Lo! Lot is there. They said: We are best aware of who is there. We are to deliver him and his household, all save his wife, who is of those who stay behind.
Quran 29:32 DEBUNKED the lies of Quran 54:34 - Pickthal
Lo! We sent a storm of stones upon them (all) save the FAMILY of Lot, whom We rescued in the last watch of the night,
If the FAMILY of Lot was rescued in the last watch, THEN why the wife of Lot stayed behind????
Holy Bible has debunked the lies of Quran 66:10 which says wife of Noah and wife of Lot were disbelievers and they entered the Fire (hell).
Genesis 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Gen 19:24 Then YHWH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from YHWH out of heaven;
Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
Gen 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
The wife of LOT did not enter the FIRE but she was turned into the pillar of salt as she was leaving the city of Sodom and turned around to look back at the city which the angles of YHWH had warned the family of Lot not to look back!
Quran 66:10 - Pickthal
Allah citeth an example for those who disbelieve: the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot, who were under two of Our righteous slaves yet betrayed them so that they (the husbands) availed them naught against Allah and it was said (unto them): Enter the Fire along with those who enter.
Quran 66:10 refuted the lies of the Devil in Quran 29:32 that the FAMILY of Lot was saved from the burning sulphur from Heaven.
Holy Bible has debunked Quran 3:3 that it claims to be confirming the Torah and the Gospel.
Once again the Moabite Stone speaks loud and clear the Lot was not a prophet of YHWH as he did not even establish the worship of YHWH Elohim. Only the Isralites maintained the worship of one YHWH Elohim.
Quran 66:10 saying about wife of Noah was a disbeliever is a FAT lie as the Holy Bible says she was amongst the 8 persons saved from the great flood. So how can Quran be true??? Messiah Yahshua said the Scripture cannot be broken John 10:35, so the Quran is FAKE and not even a scripture at all!!!
Gen 7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
Gen 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
Gen 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark
Note: Noah's wife was amongst 8 of them vide Genesis 7:7.
Gen 9:18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
Gen 9:19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
LOOK at the lies of the DEVIL saying one of Noah's son was drowned.
Quran 11:43 - Pickthal
He said: I shall betake me to some mountain that will save me from the water. (Noah) said: This day there is none that saveth from the commandment of Allah save him on whom He hath had mercy. And the wave came in between them, so he was among the DROWNED.
Genesis 7:7 and 9:19 both tell us that before the great flood, the 3 sons of Noah and their wives entered the ARK and after the flood they came out of the ARK. So where did the Hebrew Tanakh says Noah's son was DROWNED????
Quran 11:46 says that drowned son of Noah was an evil son.
11:46 - Pickthal
He said: O Noah! Lo! he is not of thy household; lo! he is of evil conduct, so ask not of Me that whereof thou hast no knowledge. I admonish thee lest thou be among the ignorant.
Even Noah's prayer for God to spare his son was rejected by ALLAH but YHWH did not drown Noah's son at all. ALL the 3 sons of Noah are safe in the ARK of NOAH.
Q11:45 -Pickthal
And Noah cried unto his Lord and said: My Lord! Lo! my son is of my household! Surely Thy promise is the truth and Thou are the Most Just of Judges.
There is no way to accept the lies of the Devil in the Quran as the word of YHWH. Quran 22:52 says Satan threw vanities into the book what Muslims called the Quran. It's an unholy book of the Devil. There is no room for the Devil's handbook to be equal to the the Hebrew Tanakh and the Christian's Holy Bible. We have 3 separate lines of preservation of the Holy Scriptures namely Samaritan Bible, Hebrew Bible and the Holy Bible. What Muslims have to boast about??? Only 6236 verses in the Quran and 114 chapters.
The Holy Bible has 39 books in the OT and 27 Books in the NT. There are 23,145 verses in the Old Testament and 7,957 verses in the New Testament. This gives a total of 31,102 verses.
The supremacy of the Holy Bible cannot be refuted by the Quran which has only 6236 verses vs. 31,102 verses of the Holy Bible. Even one of the 66 books of the Bible such as the Book of John is sufficient to make me a Christian.
"The Bible is like a small library made up of 66 books. It has two big sections: the Old Testament and the New Testament. The Old Testament has 39 books, and the New Testament has 27 books. In these 66 books, you will find a total of 1,189 chapters.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/kjb-statistics.htm
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