Showing posts with label muslims. Show all posts
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Sunday, March 2, 2008

Christian and Muslim views on Salvation

Every verse in the Quran and Holy Bible are taken as God's laws. When there is a clause without a provision, any lawyers and judge will know how to interpret it literally.


Let's start off with Christian views.

BEFORE the declaration of faith by a Gentile woman, Jesus tested her by telling her a proverb.

Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

AFTER she believed in Lord Jesus by her words and not by her action alone, she was called "O woman, great is thy faith...". People with true faith in Jesus Christ are known as Christians.

Mat 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

Mat 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

James 2:22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works

Indeed dogs are faithless people who refused to believe in the atoning blood of Lord Jesus Christ for cleansing their sins.

Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

God's law says remission of sins by blood sacrifice.

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death (eternal separation from God); but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God

God told Aaron to offer Him sin offering to fulfill His standard for remission of sins.

Exo 30:10 And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.

Jesus came to replace animals sacrifice with his own blood sacrifice.

Heb 10:9 then he added, "Behold, I have come to do your will." He abolishes the first in order to establish the second.

Heb 10:10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Angel Gabriel declared:

Mat 1:21 She (Mary) will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their SINS."

Jesus said: "for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." (Mat 26:28) And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many. (Mark 14:24)

Jesus foretold his crucifixion to shed his precious Blood: "You know that after two days the Passover is coming, and the Son of Man will be delivered up to be crucified." (Mat 26:2)

Rom 3:25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Christians are one in Jesus Christ, who are seed of Abraham and heirs by promise.

Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Man and God are reconciled by the Blood of Jesus

Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Christians are fellow citizens with the saints and of the family of God

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone

Now let's proceed to examine Muslims views.

Is there any assurance of salvation for Muslims?

1) Allah will forgive those whom He will and not for every one who believe. So how could Muslims be assured to enter Paradise?

Sura/Chapter 002 - Al-Baqarah. Verse 284

Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will FORGIVE whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (Pickthal Translation)

Another verse tells that salvation is for whom the Allah has mercy and not for every one who believe.

Muslims enter Hell as Quran says Allah fill Hell with mankind and jinn together. Mankind is human beings. So which Muslims will be spared?

Sura/Chapter 011 - Hûd. Verse 119

Save him on whom thy Lord hath mercy; and for that He did create them. And the Word of thy Lord hath been fulfilled: Verily I shall fill HELL with the jinn (demons) and mankind together.

2) Allah will send those to Hell who disobey him and there is no given provision of forgiveness for disobedience and no certainty of whatever limits of sins.

Sura/Chapter 004 - An-Nisâ. Verse 14 And whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger and transgresseth His limits, He will make him enter FIRE, where such will dwell for ever; his will be a shameful doom.

3) No amount of good works can atone the sin of man because sin is the trangression of God's law.

Under God's law, no one is perfect because if one break a law, he fails the whole Ten Commandments. The penalty of sin is death (figuratively means eternal separation from God). If there is no law, then there is no sin at all because sin is a measure against God's given law

1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (1 John 3:4)

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

But Quran says about whoever will enter Paradise and Hell shall depend on good works and weighing on scales!

Now is "good works" ideology faulty? Sin is trangression of God's law and not man's law. Doing good works to other people is unable to atone man's sins because it has not meet the requirement of God's law for remission of sins.

Sura/Chapter 007 - Al-A'râf. Verse 8. The weighing on that day is the true (weighing). As for those whose SCALE is heavy, they are the successful.

Sura/Chapter 023 - Al-Mu'minûn. Verse 103.And those whose SCALEs are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding.

4) Allah has decreed that every Muslim shall enter Hell.

Sura 19:71 There is NOT One of you BUT shall approach it (Hell). That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord. (Pickthal Translation)

The literal translation of the last verse cited is: "Not one of you but will enter it (Hell)". Muslim scholars are confused about this verse and say that all will be admitted to Hell but the believers will be rescued. But no one can know when he will be rescued.

It is worthwhile to quote Ibn Katheir, the well known Islamic expositor, as he stated the stories for men who lived understanding what the prophet of Islam has said. One of the stories is about Abdullah Ibn Rowaha was putting his head on his wife's lap, he wept, his wife also wept. He asked her, "why do you weep?" " I saw you weeping so I wept", she answered. He said, "I remembered what Allah said :'No one of you but will enter it (Hell)'. I do not know if I will escape from it or not."

According to Tradition Hadith Al Bukhary volume 5 No. 266, the prophet of Islam said: " By Allah, though I am the apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me"

The Bible is clear that unbelieving in Lord Jesus (for his original mission on atonment for sins) will lead to second death.

Rev 21:8 (Jesus said) But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Details explanation has been given and response by a Muslim agreed that Muslims shall enter Hell but does not get burned! Is this so as told in Quran?

Answering Christianity http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/muslims_in_hell_rebuttal.htm

Sura/Chapter 005 - Al-Mâ'idah. Verse 86. But those who disbelieve and deny our revelations (in Scripture), they are owners of HELL fire.

Quran was revealed earliest in AD610 while the Gospel was first written by John Mark around AD55. The Bible in 3rd century and today's Holy Bible are similar! Quran says it was CONFIRMING the earlier revelations and not CORRECTING the scripture. I just quote 2 verses for easy reference.

Sura 3:3 He hath revealed unto thee the Scripture with truth, CONFIRMING that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel

Sura 5:46 And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, CONFIRMING that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, CONFIRMING that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).

5) There is no forgiveness for idolaters (such as love money, impurity, evil desire) as their eternal place is hell fire.

Sura/Chapter 009 - At-Taubah. Verse 113. It is not for the Prophet, and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of idolaters even though they may be near of kin (to them) after it hath become clear that they are people of HELL FIRE.

Mat 6:24 (Jesus said) No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon (money).

Col 3:5 Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

6) Every soul will taste of death; whosoever is removed from Fire will enter Paradise. It means Muslims will be burned in Hell Fire while waiting to be removed to enter Paradise.

Sura/Chapter 003 - Al-Imrân. Verse 185 Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter PARADISE, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion.

7) Muslims could be sent astray by Allah and then their abode will be Hell

Sura/Chapter 017 - Al-Isrâ. Verse 97. And he whom Allah guideth, he is led aright; while, as for him whom He sendeth astray, for them thou wilt find no protecting friends beside Him, and We shall assemble them on the Day of Resurrection on their faces, blind, dumb and deaf; their habitation will be HELL; whenever it abateth, We increase the flame for them.

Truly Allah has decreed for every one to enter Hell according to Sura 19:71 (Yusuf Ali Translatn): Not one (None) of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.

Lord Jesus said there would be no way out of Hell once one was sent therein (Luke 16:26). Yet it is a decree for every Muslim to enter Hell (Sura 19:71)

The correct intepretation of the verse is to read the context of Sura 19:69-70 about a Muslim who asked about the resurrection of the dead.

Lord of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them! Therefor, worship thou Him and be thou steadfast in His service. Knowest thou one that can be named along with Him ? (Comment: This man is a Muslim as he worships Allah the Lord of the heavens and the earth.) And man saith: When I am dead, shall I forsooth be brought forth alive? Doth not man remember that We created him before, when he was naught? And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them (Muslims) and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around hell. Then We shall pluck out from every sect whichever of them was most stubborn in rebellion to the Beneficent. And surely We are Best Aware of those most worthy to be burned therein. There is not one of you but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord. Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there. (Sura 19: 69-70) Pickthal Translation

In conclusion, Muslims are destined to enter Hell Sura 19:71 Not one (none) of you BUT will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished. Sura 19:71 (Yusuf Ali Translation).

As you see, there is no assurance of salvation to those who embrace Islam.

More details at: http://www.islamreview.com/articles/waytoparadise.shtml


Now, if you felt your heart being opened to a new desire for God and you sincerely want to accept the gift of God, You may pray something like this:

Dear Lord God, I know that I am a sinner, I realize that from my life and from your Word, destined for Hell. I need your mercy and forgiveness. I believe that Jesus has died for my sins. I trust Jesus as my Savior and Lord. I want to turn away from my sins. Cleanse my sins by the Blood of Jesus shed on the Cross. God, I submit to you now and I invite You to come into my heart and life. Please help me to follow you all the days of my life.
In Jesus name I pray. Amen.

The prayer is simple and yet many Muslims prefer to work for salvation instead of accepting the salvation plan of God by faith in Lord Jesus Christ, the author and finisher of our faith.

Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Saturday, February 23, 2008

Is Hell the decree for Muslims?

Is Hell the decree for Muslims? It sounds harsh and rude for first time listeners. But let's examine the Quran to find out in truth.

Key Verse: Sura 19:68 And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them (Muslims) and the DEVILs, then We shall bring them, crouching, around hell.

Let's examine whether the element of mockery is the reason for Allah to assemble them (Muslims) and the Devils together and bring them, crouching, around hell. Retracing to earlier verse at Sura 19:65
Lord of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them! Therefor, worship thou Him and be thou steadfast in His service. Knowest thou one that can be named along with Him? And man saith: When I am dead, shall I forsooth be brought forth alive? (Sura 19:66)

As this is an important truth to know where is the destiny for Muslims, let us quote from 3 witnesses or translators to establish the truth of the interpretation of the Quran. Two witnesses is sufficient to comply with the Mosaic law (Matthew 18:16) and 3 witnesses shall be settled it once and for all.


Examine Sura 19:65-66
Khalifa: The Lord of the heavens and the earth, and everything between them; you shall worship Him and steadfastly persevere in worshiping Him. Do you know of anyone who equals Him? The human being asks, "After I die, do I come back to life?"

Yusuf Ali: Lord of the heavens and of the earth, and of all that is between them; so worship Him, and be constant and patient in His worship: knowest thou of any who is worthy of the same Name as He?" Man says: "What! When I am dead, shall I then be raised up alive?"

Pickthal: "Lord of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them! Therefor, worship thou Him and be thou steadfast in His service. Knowest thou one that can be named along with Him ? And man saith: When I am dead, shall I forsooth be brought forth alive ?

Comments: He worshipped the Lord of the heavens and the earth implies he is a Muslim. And he inquired about the resurrection of the dead.

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. (Matthew 22:29-32)

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? (John 11:25-26)

Examine the context of Sura 19:67-68

Allah said to Muslim
Khalifa: Did the human being forget that we created him already, and he was nothing? By your Lord, we will certainly summon them (Muslims), together with the devils, and will gather them around Hell, humiliated.

Yusuf Ali: But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing? So, by thy Lord, without doubt, We shall gather them together, and (also) the Evil Ones (with them); then shall We bring them forth on their knees round about Hell;

Pickthal: Doth not man remember that We created him before, when he was naught ? And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them (Muslims) and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around hell.

Some shall be plucked out or abruptly pulled out from group and thrown to burn in Hell? Who are there?

Examine the context of Sura 19:69-70
Khalifa: Then we will pick out from each group the most ardent opponent of the Most Gracious. We know full well those who are most deserving of burning therein.

Yusuf Ali: Then shall We certainly drag out from every sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against (God) Most Gracious. And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.

Pickthal: Then We shall pluck out from every sect whichever of them was most stubborn in rebellion to the Beneficent. And surely We are Best Aware of those most worthy to be burned therein.

Comments: Did you read it correctly? Those most rebellious against the Most Gracious God shall be plucked out from the group and thrown to be burned in Hell.

Is it a destiny for good Muslims to go to Hell? Yes, all of the Muslims for it is Allah's decree.
Sura 19:71
Khalifa: Every single one of you must see it; this is an irrevocable decision of your Lord.

Yusuf Ali: Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.

Pickthal: There is not one of you but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord.
Is the reason of mockery brought Muslims to Hell? No, it is Allah's decree to enter Hell. Then who shall be spared from burning in Hell?

Sura 19:72
Khalifa: Then we rescue the righteous, and leave the transgressors in it, humiliated.
Yusuf Ali: But We shall save those who guarded against evil, and We shall leave the wrong-doers therein, (humbled) to their knees.
Pickthal: Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.

The righteous shall be plucked out from Hell and trangressors are left behind. The Scripture says the most rebellious against God are trangressors which Sura 19:72 says they would be left crouching in Hell. Only the most rebellious against God will be thrown to be burned therein (Sura 19:69).

For Yahweh God said
1Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Joshua 1:18 Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment, and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest him, he shall be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.

Joshua 22:29 God forbid that we should rebel against the LORD


Jesus said the trangressors are thrown into the lake of burning fire and not just crouching around in Hell:-
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev 21:7-8)

Rev 20:15 (God said) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs (unbelieving, abominable, contemptible, apostate, trangressors), and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Question: How many could be pluck out from Hell? None, as it is impossible to get out of Hell. Listen to the words of Prophet Jesus before it.

Quran was traditionally from a revelation given by an unidentified spirit to Mohammed at Hira cave in Mecca. The spirit said to Mohammed: "Verily he saw one of the greater revelations of his Lord. Have ye thought upon Al Lat and Al Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other? Are yours the males and His the females? " (Sura 53:18-21)

Question: Asking Muslims to give thoughts to 3 gods or 3 spirits? Is it an idolatry to think of 3 gods?


Did that spirit say "Thus have we appointed unto every Prophet an adversary DEVILs of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising"

Question: Is that spirit a deceiver who appoint an adversary Devils of humankind to mislead every prophet?

But Lord Jesus did not sin (Hebrew 2:18; 4:15) even though he was tempted in every way (Matthew 4:1, Mark 1:13, Luke 4:2).

Sura 67:5 And verily We have beatified the world's heaven with lamps, and We have made them missiles for the DEVILs, and for them We have prepared the doom of flame.

Question: Are stars in the sky considered as lamps or missiles to shoot the Devils? It sounds like devils can be shot down.


Nevertheless, Allah will gather Muslims and Devils together and bring them, crouching around hell (Sura 19:66-70) and that is a destiny for Muslims because "that is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord" (Sura 19:71).

Is that a reward to be a Muslim so as to end up in hell with no certainty to be saved from hell fire?

Once in hell, there is no return and no way out of it as told by Lord Jesus (Luke 16:26) And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

But Christians are saved by Lord Jesus who is from Abraham's seed.
Sura 3:55 ...I will make those who follow thee (Jesus) SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection (Yusuf Ali)

Quran was revealed later than the Holy Bible by at least 540 years. As Quran confirms that the Scripture was revealed in truth, then Bible is the final authority. Quran recognises the Holy Bible as a Book of final authority.

Sura 10:94 And if thou (Mohammed/Muslim) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those (Christians) who read the Scripture (Bible that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. (Pickthal Translation)

Moreover, Quran says it is CONFIRMING and not CORRECTING the Holy Bible so those who claims Bible is corrupt are liars and not believing in Quran.

Sura 2:41 And believe in that which I reveal, CONFIRMING that which ye possess already (of the Scripture), and be not first to disbelieve therein, and part not with My revelations for a trifling price, and keep your duty unto Me.

Sura 3:3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, CONFIRMING that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel

Sura 5:46 And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, CONFIRMING that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, CONFIRMING that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).

Allah will watch over the Scripture revealed before Quran, to keep if from corruption
Sura 5:48 And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, CONFIRMING whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it.

Read the Holy Bible with an open mind and read from page to page to determine the overview of the words from Lord Jesus. Do not believe in those who disbelieve about the Gospel for it is the power of God for salvation of the Gentiles - to be saved from the hell fire.

Saint Paul said: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written. The just shall live by faith. (Romans 1:16-17)


May God open the eyes of understanding of those who truly seek for the truth, nothing but the truth in the name of Jesus my Lord. Amen.