Thursday, June 30, 2011

WHY the difference of 40 days of purification for the birth of baby boys and 80 days of purification for baby girls?

The context of purification for the mother is indirectly "holidays" for the mother as she is free from religious obligation to travel to worship in the sanctuary in Jerusalem and free from marital duty to fulfill the needs of her husband for the stipulated period depending on the gender of the baby. Of course the longer holidays means it is more beneficial to the mother.

Reference Leviticus Chapter 12

Lev 12:1  And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 12:2  Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
Lev 12:3  And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Lev 12:4  And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
Lev 12:5  But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.
Lev 12:6  And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
Lev 12:7  Who shall offer it before YHWH, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
Lev 12:8  And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.


First of all, this ceremonial law is applicable to the mother in respect of travelling to worship in the sanctuary of Yah'weh God in Jerusalem and to abstain from sexual intimacy as a form of control against early pregnancy after child-birth. Doubling the period of purification for the birth of a baby girl does not mean the girl is more sinful than the birth of a baby boy as the burnt offering and the sin offering for both gender of the babies are identical vide Leviticus 12: 6 "And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest"

The mother giving birth to a baby boy is subject to the 7 days of her impurity and follow by 33 days of her purification i.e. a total of 40 days of purification whereas the birth of a baby girl is subject to 14 days of her impurity and follow by 66 days of her purification i.e. a total of 80 days of her purification.

The rational for the fixed days of purification for the male or female child-birth  is recorded in the Book of Jubilees Chapter 3 as spoken by Yahweh God. Adam was put to a deep sleep for 6 days when Yahweh took a rib from him and created a woman. Then 2 weeks later Yahweh sent the woman called Eve to meet Adam and he knew her for the first time. Adam was sent into the Garden of Eden on the 40th day after the creation of Eve. However Yahweh sent Eve into the Garden of Eden on the 80th day. The duration of purification for the birth of a male or female child follows the days of purification of Adam and Eve since the time before they enter the Garden of Eden.

This is the theological reason for 40 days of purification for the birth of a male child and 80 days for a female child. It is record in the tablet in Heaven according to the Book of Jubilees of the Hebrews.


[The Book of Jubilees: Chapter 3]

1 And on the six days of the second week we brought, according to the word of God, unto Adam all the beasts, and all the cattle, and all the birds, and everything that moves on the earth, and everything that moves in the water, according to their kinds, and according to their types: the beasts on the first day; the cattle on the second day; the birds on the third day; and all that which moves on the earth on the fourth day; and that which moves in the water on the fifth day.

2 And Adam named them all by their respective names, and as he called them, so was their name.

3 And on these five days Adam saw all these, male and female, according to every kind that was on

4 the earth, but he was alone and found no helpmeet for him. And the Lord said unto us: 'It is not

5 good that the man should be alone: let us make a helpmeet for him.' And the Lord our God caused a deep sleep to fall upon him, and he slept, and He took for the woman one rib from amongst

6 his ribs, and this rib was the origin of the woman from amongst his ribs, and He built up the flesh in its stead, and built the woman. And He awaked Adam out of his sleep and on awaking he rose on the sixth day, and He brought her to him, and he knew her, and said unto her: 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called

7 [my] wife; because she was taken from her husband.' Therefore shall man and wife be one and therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and cleave unto his wife, and they shall be

8 one flesh. In the first week was Adam created, and the rib -his wife: in the second week He showed her unto him: and for this reason the commandment was given to keep in their defilement,

9 for a male seven days, and for a female twice seven days. And after Adam had completed forty days in the land where he had been created, we brought him into the garden of Eden to till and keep it, but his wife they brought in on the eightieth day, and after this she entered into the garden

10 of Eden. And for this reason the commandment is written on the heavenly tablets in regard to her that gives birth: 'if she bears a male, she shall remain in her uncleanness seven days according to the first week of days, and thirty and three days shall she remain in the blood of her purifying, and she shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor enter into the sanctuary, until she accomplishes these

11 days which (are enjoined) in the case of a male child. But in the case of a female child she shall remain in her uncleanness two weeks of days, according to the first two weeks, and sixty-six days

12 in the blood of her purification, and they will be in all eighty days.' And when she had completed these eighty days we brought her into the garden of Eden, for it is holier than all the earth besides and

13 every tree that is planted in it is holy. Therefore, there was ordained regarding her who bears a male or a female child the statute of those days that she should touch no hallowed thing, nor

14 enter into the sanctuary until these days for the male or female child are accomplished.

This is the law and testimony which was written down for Israel, in order that they should observe (it) all the 15 days. And in the first week of the first jubilee, [1-7 A.M.] Adam and his wife were in the garden of Eden for seven years tilling and keeping it, and we gave him work and we instructed him to do everything.

Source: http://www.piney.com/ApocJubileeBook.html


BOOK OF GENESIS
Gen 2:16  And YHWH Elohim commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 2:18  And YHWH Elohim said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19  And out of the ground YHWH Elohim formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20  And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Gen 2:21  And YHWH Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22  And the rib, which YHWH Elohim had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23  And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25  And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


The first 40 days of purification for a male child symbolizes the trial or judgment of Yahweh God. Yahweh spoke to Moses for 40 days and 40 nights on the Mount Sinai as a trial for the people of Israel. After Moses led the Israelites to cross the Red Sea which is a form of water baptism, they were free from circumcision for 40 years during the wandering in the wilderness (Joshua 5:5-6). Moses failed to enter the promised land due to his disobedience on the commandments of Yahweh.

Yah'shua fasted for 40 days and nights during the temptation in the Judean wilderness. He was condemned , crucified, died and raised on the third day and then appeared spiritually for a period of 40 days to his apostles, disciples and believers. While the first part of the law for 40 days was in preparation for the ministry of Yah'shua, the second part of grace for 40 days was to give birth to the Church as symbolized by Eve - the woman.

Great emphasis is placed on the 40 days of grace before the birth of the Church could come forth from the descent of the Holy Spirit on all the apostles, disciples and believers on the Day of Pentecost which is 50 days from the day of resurrection of Yah'shua. Hence the 80 days of purification for the birth of a baby girl is very significant which prophesied to the formation of the Church that is preceded by 40 days of teachings and companionship by our Lord Yah'shua. 

The 40 days of trial or judgment is normal for all Hebrews male descendants. It is the additional 40 days of purification for the birth of baby girls which is beneficial for the woman as she is free from the obligation to travel a long distance to worship in the sanctuary of Yahweh and free from the marital duty to meet the sexual demand of her husband.

The God that removed such law so as to deny the rights of the woman of 40 days extra holidays for the birth of a female child is a proof that He is not the same God of Yah'weh who has established His law on the tablets in Heaven. The Church could not be established by Yah'shua without His 40 days of appearance on earth after His resurrection. The 40 days of fasting by Yah'shua and temptation of the Devil is parallel to the 40 years of wandering in the wilderness of the Israelites. In the prophetic idiom, a day is equivalent to a year of suffering. 



After the period of 40 days Moses came down from Mt Sinai with 2 tablets of stones in his hands with the Ten Commandments.

Exo 24:17  And the sight of the glory of YHWH was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
Exo 24:18  And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and got him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

Three thousand Hebrews idolaters were killed in a single day!
Exo 32:27  And he said unto them, Thus saith YHWH Elohim of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
Exo 32:28  And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.


Yahweh God gave Moses another chance to receive the Ten Commandments on 2 tablets of stone after another 40 days and nights of fasting.
Exo 34:27  And YHWH said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.
Exo 34:28  And he was there with YHWH forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
Exo 34:29  And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses knew not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.


So there was a total of 80 days and nights of fasting before the Law of Yahweh was permanently given to them:

Exo 34:32  And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that YHWH had spoken with him in mount Sinai.
Exo 34:33  And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.


Lord Yahshua had the similar encounter of 40 days and nights of fasting while in the wilderness and aother 40 days with His apostles after His resurrection - a total of 80 days. Then there was 3,000 souls were baptized on a single day to accept Yahshua the Messiah.


For 40 days of fasting in the wilderness:-
Luke 4:1  And Yahushua being full of the Holy Spirit returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Luke 4:2  Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Luke 4:3  And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of Elohim, command this stone that it be made bread.


For 40 days after resurrection:
Acts 1:3  To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of YHWH:


We see that a total of 80 days -- 40 days fasting and 40 days of teachings as prelude to the formation of the Church whereby 3,000 sould were added to the Church in a single day!
Act 2:38  Then Kepha said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahushua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as YHWH our Elohim shall call.
Act 2:40  And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42  And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.


Saturday, June 25, 2011

Can you inherit women like property in Islam?


QURAN 22:52 refuted the lies of WTA about women in the Quran.

By own admission of Ahmad, Satan threw vanities into his words. This kind of revelation cannot be found in the Holy Bible. Secondly almost all words in the Quran has been abrogated!!! So which verses are still valid today???

Quran 22:52 -Pickthal
Never sent  we a messenger or a prophet before thee but when he recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise;


QUOTE
Qur'an 4 : 19
O ye who believe !
Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.
Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness;
on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity.
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REBUTTAL:
The word "inherit" women means Muslims women are "property" or as slaves which can be inherited and not married willingly through saying "YES" to the  marriage proposal. Even Muhammad himself had sex with the Christian MariYah against her WILL!!!

Looking at any reputable source will tell you that Muhammad (PBUH) and Mariyah (RA) were NOT legally married but taken as CONCUBINE!!!

In one example, the noted historian Ibn Kathir records:
Ibn Kathir wrote:
Maria al-Qibtiyya (may Allah be pleased with her) is said to have married the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and certainly everyone gave her the same title of respect as the Prophet's wives, 'Umm al Muminin' 'Mother of the Believers'. Maria was born in upper Egypt of a Coptic father and Greek mother and moved to the court of the Muqawqis when she was still very young. She arrived in Medina to join the Prophet's household just after the Prophet returned from the treaty with Quraish which was contracted at al-Hudaybiyya.

The scholars that write for the website www.islamqa.com received a question regarding whether Mariyah was Muhammad's wife to which they answered:

    Question:

    There is no doubt that Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was the concubine of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and she bore him his son Ibraaheem. Can the title of "Mother of the Believers" be given to Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah or not?

    Answer:

    Praise be to Allaah.

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) DID NOT MARRY MARIYAH AL-QIBTIYYAH, RATHER SHE WAS A CONCUBINE who was given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Egypt. That took place after the treaty of al-Hudaybiyah. Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was a Christian, then she became Muslim (may Allaah be pleased with her).

    Ibn Sa'd said:

    The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) lodged her – meaning Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah and her sister – with Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, and the Messenger of Allaah (S) entered upon them and told them about Islam. He took Mariyah AS A CONCUBINE and moved her to some property of his in al-'Awaali… and she became a good Muslim.

    Al-Tabaqaat al-Kubra, 1/134-135

    Ibn 'Abd al-Barr said:

    Mariyah died during the caliphate of 'Umar ibn al-Khattaab, in Muharram of 16 AH. 'Umar gathered the people himself to attend her funeral, and he led the funeral prayer for her. She was buried in al-Baqee'.

    Al-Isti'aab, 4/ 1912

    Mariyah (may Allaah be pleased with her) WAS ONE OF THE PROPHET'S CONCUBINES, NOT ONE OF HIS WIVES. The Mothers of the Believers are the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    "The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their (believers') mothers (as regards respect and marriage)"

    [al-Ahzaab 33:6]

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had four concubines, ONE OF WHOM WAS MARIYAH.

    Ibn al-Qayyim said:

    Abu 'Ubaydah said: HE HAD FOUR (CONCUBINES): MARIYAH, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh.

    Zaad al-Ma'aad, 1/114

    For more information of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – the Mothers of the Believers – please see the answer to question no. 47072

    And Allaah knows best.

    Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)


IS ISLAM respecting WOMEN around the world??? Let YHWH be your judge!



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QUOTE from WTA:

If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good.

Qur'an 5 : 5
This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them.
(UNlawful unto you in marriage) are chaste women who are believers,
but chaste women among the People of the Book ( jews & christians)

Unquote

REBUTTAL

Christians are NEVER permitted to marry pagan Muslims whose called is ALLAH which in Hebrew means OAK TREE.

2Cor 6:14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Cor 6:15  And what concord hath the Messiah with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

JESUS CHRIST is the WISDOM of YHWH Elohim vs King Solomon

QUOTE from WTA
King Solomon is about 14,000,000,000 (Billion) years old?

( KJV ) Proverbs 8 : 27

27 " When he prepared the heavens, " I WAS T H E R E ! " :


UNQUOTE

REBUTTAL

O great foolish Muslim WTA son of the Devil.

Proverbs 8:27 is not the words of KING Solomon but from the Holy Spirit of Yah'shua!!!


The context of Proverbs is about an attribute called WISDOM. It is a figure of SPEECH.
Pro 8:1  Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2  She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.

Can Wisdom cry??? It is a figure of speech and not to be taken literally.

The context of the passage is about WISDOM. How could foolish WTA misquote the Bible out of context???

Pro 8:12  I, WISDOM dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Pro 8:13  The fear of YHWH is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
Pro 8:14  Counsel is mine, and sound WISDOM: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15  By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16  By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
Pro 8:17  I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Pro 8:22  YHWH possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23  I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24  When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25  Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26  While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27  When He prepared the heavens, I was there: when He set a compass upon the face of the depth:


This WISDOM is Yah'shua Messiah speaking through King Solomon vide Proverbs 2:6 which he admitted that YHWH gave WISDOM.

Pro 2:6  For YHWH giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.


YAHSHUA declared all THINGS of the FATHER are MINE. So the WISDOM which YHWH gave to King Solomon belongs to YAHSHUA!!!
John 16:15  "All things that the Father hath are mine"


Proverbs 8:27 
When he prepared the heavens, I (WISDOM) was there - For there is no part of the creation of God in which wisdom, skill, contrivance, are more manifest, than in the construction of the visible heavens.

WISDOM belongs to Yah'shua Messiah:
Proverbs 3:19  YHWH by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

VERSUS: YAHSHUA was the CREATOR:
John 1:10  He was in the world, and the World was made by him, and the world knew him not.


WISDOM comes from Yahshua the Son of Yahweh.

Psa 111:10  The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7  The fear of YHWH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10  The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Pro 15:33  The fear of YHWH is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.

WISDOM is the Spirit of YHWH, not King Solomon.
Isaiah 11:2  And the spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YHWH;


WISDOM belongs to YHWH Elohim and never refer to King Solomon.

Exo 36:1  Then wrought Bezaleel and Aholiab, and every wise hearted man, in whom YHWH put WISDOM and understanding to know how to work all manner of work for the service of the sanctuary, according to all that YHWH had commanded.


WISDOM can be imparted by the Spirit of YHWH through laying on of hands.
Deu 34:9  And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as YHWH commanded Moses.


Angel of YHWH also has WISDOM.
2Sa 14:20  To fetch about this form of speech hath thy servant Joab done this thing: and my master is wise, according to the wisdom of an angel of Elohim, to know all things that are in the earth.


WISDOM does not belong to King Solomon as it was YHWH who gave WISDOM to him:
1Ki 5:12  And YHWH GAVE Solomon wisdom, as he promised him: and there was peace between Hiram and Solomon; and they two made a league together.

Yah'shua owned all the WISDOM of YHWH vide John 16:15
1Ch 22:12  Only YHWH give thee wisdom and understanding, and give thee charge concerning Israel, that thou mayest keep the law of YHWH thy Elohim.
2Ch 9:23  And all the kings of the earth sought the presence of Solomon, to hear his wisdom, THAT Elohim had put in his heart.


WISDOM of Solomon can be seen by Queen of Sheba:
2Ch 9:3  And when the queen of Sheba had seen the wisdom of Solomon, and the house that he had built,


Pro 1:1  The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
Pro 1:2  To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
Pro 1:3  To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
Pro 1:4  To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
Pro 1:5  A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
Pro 1:6  To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
Pro 1:7  The fear of YHWH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Pro 1:8  My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:


YHWH is the source of WISDOM:
Pro 1:20  Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
Pro 8:1  Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:2  She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.


Pro 4:5  Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.


Pro 4:7  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.


Pro 8:5  O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.


Pro 8:11  For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.


ALL prudence or wisemen have WISDOM:
Pro 8:12  I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.


CONFIRMATION BY Yah'shua through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit:-
John 1:2  The same was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

As the Universe was created by YAHSHUA, He was the Wisdom which King Solomon was talking about HIM, not himself.


PROPHET JOHN said YAHSHUA created the WORLD and he supported Proverbs 8:27 about YAHSHUA as the Creator:
John 1:10  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.



Did Jesus ever called Allah or Eli at the time of 33AD???


Quote from WTA
Is the meaning the same whether...

Yah'shua " submit " to the will of Allah ( God )
with....
" Yah'shua came to do the will of His Father ? "

If your answer is Noooo !, please explain H O W ?
If your answer is YEESSSS !, that means Jesus was/is a muslim !

Hello Mr Positron66 !
For time being no need to discuss your other points.

First !
you answer the above question...... ok ?

Unquote


REBUTTAL:

1) O Muslim WTA the liar, please prove to me that Yah'shua ever called His Father ALLAH???

2) Please prove to me that Yah'shua is called AAEESA in Arabic in the Quran is the same person as YAHSHUA???

3) Please produce the proof that Arabic language existed in 30AD by showing the earliest stone inscription

Failing to show proof of the above 3 points means ALLAH is non-existence in 30AD. The Moabite Stone proves that YHWH was the God of the children of Israel rather than Allah. Chemosh was the god of the children of Lot's descendants called the Moabites.

The Moabite Stone debunked the Quran that Allah is the god of Lot. As the Moabite Stone was dated around 830BC which is only 1170 years apart from the father of Lot, it is fairly accurate to debunk the lies in the Quran.

As Muhammad's distorted teachings can last over 1400 years, there is no reason that Lot's teaching did not last till 830BC. If Lot as a prophet of Allah, then the Moabites would not worship the god Chemosh as inscribed in the Moabite Stone.

So the Black Moabite Stone in fact stone the lies of Satan and crushed his head just as the serpent's head was crushed by the feet of the Son of Yah'weh.

The Moabite Stone crushed the following lies of Satan in the Quran. Arabs were so scared of the Moabite Stone that it was burnt and poured cool water to break in into pieces. But the impressions made from the Moabite Stone managed to restore it. Today, Muslims are quiet about the Moabite Stone.

Quran 21:71 -Pickthal
And We rescued him and Lot (and brought them) to the land which We have blessed for (all) peoples.

Quran 21:74 - Pickthal
And unto Lot we gave judgment and knowledge, and We delivered him from the community that did abominations. Lo! they were folk of evil, lewd.

Quran 29:26- Pickthal
And Lot believed him, and said: Lo! I am a fugitive unto my Lord. Lo! He, only He, is the Mighty, the Wise.

If ALLAH did deliver the folk of Lot from idolatry, then why his descendants called Moabites served the god Chemosh as inscribed on the Moabite Stone and not Allah????



Holy Bible has debunked the lies of Satan who inspired an illiterate man to lie about Lot's wife who stayed behind????

Quran 29:32 -Pickthal
He said: Lo! Lot is there. They said: We are best aware of who is there. We are to deliver him and his household, all save his wife, who is of those who stay behind.


Quran 29:32 DEBUNKED the lies of Quran 54:34 - Pickthal
Lo! We sent a storm of stones upon them (all) save the FAMILY of Lot, whom We rescued in the last watch of the night,

If the FAMILY of Lot was rescued in the last watch, THEN why the wife of Lot stayed behind????


Holy Bible has debunked the lies of Quran 66:10 which says wife of Noah and wife of Lot were disbelievers and they entered the Fire (hell).

Genesis 19:23  The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Gen 19:24  Then YHWH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from YHWH out of heaven;
Gen 19:25  And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
Gen 19:26  But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

The wife of LOT did not enter the FIRE but she was turned into the pillar of salt as she was leaving the city of Sodom and turned around to look back at the city which the angles of YHWH had warned the family of Lot not to look back!

Quran 66:10 - Pickthal
Allah citeth an example for those who disbelieve: the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot, who were under two of Our righteous slaves yet betrayed them so that they (the husbands) availed them naught against Allah and it was said (unto them): Enter the Fire along with those who enter.

Quran 66:10 refuted the lies of the Devil in Quran 29:32 that the FAMILY of Lot was saved from the burning sulphur from Heaven.

Holy Bible has debunked Quran 3:3 that it claims to be confirming the Torah and the Gospel.

Once again the Moabite Stone speaks loud and clear the Lot was not a prophet of YHWH as he did not even establish the worship of YHWH Elohim. Only the Isralites maintained the worship of one YHWH Elohim.

Quran 66:10 saying about wife of Noah was a disbeliever is a FAT lie as the Holy Bible says she was amongst the 8 persons saved from the great flood. So how can Quran be true??? Messiah Yahshua said the Scripture cannot be broken John 10:35, so the Quran is FAKE and not even a scripture at all!!!


Gen 7:7  And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
Gen 7:12  And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
Gen 7:13  In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark

Note: Noah's wife was amongst 8 of them vide Genesis 7:7.

Gen 9:18  And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
Gen 9:19  These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

LOOK at the lies of the DEVIL saying one of Noah's son was drowned.

Quran 11:43 - Pickthal
He said: I shall betake me to some mountain that will save me from the water. (Noah) said: This day there is none that saveth from the commandment of Allah save him on whom He hath had mercy. And the wave came in between them, so he was among the DROWNED.

Genesis 7:7 and 9:19 both tell us that before the great flood, the 3 sons of Noah and their wives entered the ARK and after the flood they came out of the ARK. So where did the Hebrew Tanakh says Noah's son was DROWNED????


Quran 11:46 says that drowned son of Noah was an evil son.

11:46 - Pickthal
He said: O Noah! Lo! he is not of thy household; lo! he is of evil conduct, so ask not of Me that whereof thou hast no knowledge. I admonish thee lest thou be among the ignorant.

Even Noah's prayer for God to spare his son was rejected by ALLAH but YHWH did not drown Noah's son at all. ALL the 3 sons of Noah are safe in the ARK of NOAH.

Q11:45 -Pickthal
And Noah cried unto his Lord and said: My Lord! Lo! my son is of my household! Surely Thy promise is the truth and Thou are the Most Just of Judges.


There is no way to accept the lies of the Devil in the Quran as the word of YHWH. Quran 22:52 says Satan threw vanities into the book what Muslims called the Quran. It's an unholy book of the Devil. There is no room for the Devil's handbook to be equal to the the Hebrew Tanakh and the Christian's Holy Bible. We have 3 separate lines of preservation of the Holy Scriptures namely Samaritan Bible, Hebrew Bible and the Holy Bible. What Muslims have to boast about??? Only 6236 verses in the Quran and 114 chapters.


The Holy Bible has 39 books in the OT and 27 Books in the NT. There are 23,145 verses in the Old Testament and 7,957 verses in the New Testament. This gives a total of 31,102 verses.

The supremacy of the Holy Bible cannot be refuted by the Quran which has only 6236 verses vs. 31,102 verses of the Holy Bible. Even one of the 66 books of the Bible such as the Book of John is sufficient to make me a Christian.

"The Bible is like a small library made up of 66 books. It has two big sections: the Old Testament and the New Testament. The Old Testament has 39 books, and the New Testament has 27 books. In these 66 books, you will find a total of 1,189 chapters.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/kjb-statistics.htm


Monday, June 6, 2011

So who is this Arab man called Muhammad???

Quote from bishayy:
The original Quran that was written on stones and bones under the supervision of Mohamed was 100% lost even before his death, but scholars say "It does not matter because the Quran was miraculously memorized by the companions". But these hadiths show clearly that Mohamed and the companions used to forget the Quran, verses and Suras!

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COMMENTS:

In order to determine if the Quran is truly inspired by Angel Gabriel, you need to look for proof of the encounter between Gabriel and Muhammad in the Quran. Can any Muslims raise your hands and show me the verse that Gabriel said "I am Gabriel sent by YHWH Elohim"???

YHWH Elohim has revealed in stages to mankind in greater clarity from generation to generation and the greatest miracle which came from the incarnation of YHWH to became one of us. So there is no reason for the absence of the introduction of Gabriel in the Quran if such encounter did really occur.

All lies in the Quran is refuted by the Gabriel whom YHWH sent and he did introduce himself to the hearer of the message.
Luke 1:19  And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of YHWH; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.


WHY there is not a single verse of Gabriel saying "I am Gabriel" if he did make himself known to Muhammad? It was Christian Bishop Waraqa ibn Nawfal who acted as Gabriel and mistaken the Angel of Light - The Devil as  Gabriel. Waraqa made a grave mistake and Muhammad was deceived by his false message.

Waraqa ibn Nawfal failed to understand the prophecy of Messiah Yahshua that there is no prophet who is yet to come as prophesied in the Old Testament until Prophet John the Baptist.
Mat 11:13  "For all the prophets and the law prophesied UNTIL John."

The matter is put to rest because Muslims cannot produce the genealogy of Muhammad to link him to the descendant of Abraham. As a matter of fact, YHWH Elohim had only established the lineage of prophethood to go along the blood line of ISAAC, JACOB and JOSEPH onwards until Messiah YAHSHUA, the SON OF YHWH Elohim.

Once there is a period of 2,000 years of silence from ISAAC until YAHSHUA, it is confirmed that no prophethood exists with the lineage of ISHMAEL the Hebrew.

As Messiah Yahshua said "the Scripture cannot be broken" John 10:35, no man can change the  law of YHWH and put man's words into the mouth of YHWH. Islam is just a man-made religion as there is no lineage of prophethood for Muhammad; he is a lone ranger!!! Even Ishmael was a Hebrew, not an Arab man. So who is this man called Muhammad???



Ishmael the first son of Abraham was disowned by him with approval from YHWH

This is an effective weapon against the Devil the father of lies who tries to sow the seed of doubts in the heart of believers that there is no prophet in the line of Ishmael the Hebrew.

Ishmael is never a Muslim as he did not worship Allah of Muhammad but YHWH Elohim of Abraham only. Ishmael married an Egyptian wife from Egypt and dwelled in Paran near Egypt; Egyptians are likely the descendants of Ishmael and Esau through intermarriage who were so advanced in the knowledge of construction of pyramids and cuneiforms.

Genesis 28:9  Then went Esau unto Ishmael, and took unto the wives which he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael Abraham's son, the sister of Nebajoth, to be his wife.


First of all, let me quote from RNKJV  Genesis 21:8-21 as below:

Genesis
21:8 And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned.

21:9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.

21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

21:11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.

21:12 And Elohim said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

21:13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.

21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba.

21:15 And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs.

21:16 And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.

21:17 And Elohim heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of Elohim called Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for Elohim hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.

21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.

21:19 And Elohim opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink.

21:20 And Elohim was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.

21:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.


My Comments:-

1) Under the Jewish culture, a child has weaned when he reaches about 2 or 3 years old. As Ishmael was born when Abraham was 86 years old and Isaac was born when Abraham was 100 years old, Ishmael was 14 years older than Isaac. When Isaac has weaned, Ishmael is about 16 years old no longer a little child. At the time of Abraham who lived around 2000BC, by the age of 16 it is already of marriageable age and capable to start a new family of his own. Gen 21:21 shows that Ishmael the Hebrew intermarried an Egyptian wife of the same race as his mother.

2) Sarah had instructed Abraham to cast out Ishmael and Hagar because she did not want Ishmael to co-inherit with Isaac and his seed vide Gen 21:10. Sarah was a free woman whereas Hagar was a slave woman. YHWH El has chosen Sarah to bear the child of promise as His perogative.

3) Abraham was acting upon the demand by his wife Sarah and prior approval from YHWH vide Gen 21:12 to make the most painful decision in his life for disowning his firstborn child Ishmael.

4) The idiom of "cast out" means divorce for Hagar and "severance of firstborn son" for Ishmael. During Abraham's culture such act of expulsion of wife and son is understood as total severance of relationship. Abraham understood the idiom vide Gen 21:11 which means an excommunication of his firstborn son.

5) The firstborn rights of Ishmael was revoked by Abraham at the approval of YHWH. Though Ishmael was promise to be made a great nation, there is no covenant of YHWH that He would be their Elohim. This is proven by 2K years of silence in respect of No Prophethood for the sons of Ishmael as it goes only with lineage of Isaac until Messiah Yah'sua.

6) There is no prophecy of YHWH about a forthcoming prophet made in the Old Testament who is yet to come after Messiah Yahshua. It was made clear by Yahshua in Matthew 11:13 that "all prophets and the law Prophesied until JOHN" which has set the time-limit to Yahshua Himself who came to minister at the time of John the Baptist.

7) The historical and scriptural records show that ISRAEL today is the Nation with lineage of prophethood from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob till John the Baptist whereas there is no lineage of prophethood from Ishmael until today.

8) By understanding the implication of casting out of Abraham's family in respect of Hagar and Ishmael, any false claim of prophethood by the sons of Ishmael can be easily identified as liars and sons of the father of lies the Devil vide John 8:44.

9) Ishmael and Isaac were presented to bury Abraham when he died but there is no record of Ishmael inheriting anything from Abraham. The nation of Israel is a witness that Israelites are the benefectors while Ishmaelites are the mockers just like Ishmael mocking Isaac on the day he weaned.

What I have overlooked before is that Ishmael the Hebrew is the victim of circumstances. But after thorough research on this incident of Ishmael's expulsion from Abraham's family, it is clear that Ishmael was actually disowned and not only a matter of separation in order to avoid the family conflict.

There is another version from disbelievers that Abraham still regularly visited Ishmael and Hagar after the expulsion. I would say it is a blatant lie of Satan the father of lies as the context of the scriptural on "sent her away" vide Gen 21:14 means Abraham did not accompany Hagar at all.

This paragraph is just a speculation as it is not found in the Holy Bible - not an absolute truth: Even if Abraham may have visited Hagar and Ishmael secretly without Sarah's knowledge, it is merely a personal concern and not an approval from YHWH. Abraham did not plead with YHWH to reinstate the inheritorship of Ishmael. Gen 21:12 is clear that YHWH had appointed ISAAC to be his prophet rather than Ishmael. Even before Isaac was conceived, Abraham had proposed to YHWH as his inheritor but YHWH said ISSAC would be born in the following year to him.

It was Ishmael's own action which triggered Sarah to act against him. Sarah had treated Hagar harshly when Hagar despised her mistress. Ishmael suffered the consequence of his own fault. Abraham was not harsh to disown Ishmael as it was YHWH's will for him to do so for the benefit of ISAAC. The holy blood of Israel was preserved by excommunicating Ishmael lest the sons of Ishmael would practise intermarriage with the tribe of Judah and no holy race would be preserved. Messiah Yahshua was the King of the Jews - holy nation of Israel.

Hagar did not suffer any loss as she became a free woman after the expulsion. Ishmael was old enough to get married and started his own family in a few years time. As the marriage law says a man shall leave his father and mother and be united with his wife as one flesh, Ishmael through his marriage with an Egyptian woman has proved that he has reached his manhood.

Ishmael was an archer and was never a prophet. Just as Esau the firstborn son did not inherit the prophethood from Isaac, Ishmael did not inherit the prophethood from Abraham. What we see today is Arabs making false claim that they are descendants of Ishmael and demanding Jerusalem City to be co-inheritors.

Although Arabs did come from the sons of Abraham through his concubine Keturah there is no proof that Muhammad came from the lineage of Ishmael. What we see today in the Middle East was arising from the family conflict of Abraham about 4000 years ago. Leaving aside the religious issue, the peace plan for Israel and Palestinian State may work out. But we see Satan is trying to create disorder and chaos at Jerusalem City a symbolic for New Jerusalem City.

This main objective is to eliminate all false claim of prophethood from the lineage of Abraham through Ishmael except through ISAAC only through whom Messiah Yahshua came forth as the promised Saviour of the whole world.

YHWH by pictograph of ancient Hebrew has decoded it to mean:
"Behold the hand, behold the nail"
which in context refers to the words of Messiah Yahshua "Behold my hands" when He spoke to doubting Thomas about His nail wound in his Hands. Google for "Behold the hand, behold the nail" for more details.

For true believers in YHWH and Yah'shua, it is a blessing from YHWH that you can see that the plan of YHWH can be unfolded for a period of 4,000 years from Abraham till today.

SHALOM.