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I am sending some verses of The Qur'an that will show the high status of Jesus, peace be upon him in the Qur'an: The description starts with the conception of Mary, mother of Jesus, pbuh.
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There is no proof that the passages in the Quran are divinely words of God as Satan can even quote from scripture to Eve and Messiah JESUS. Satan can even quote "If you are the Son of God" for 2 times (Matthew 4:3 & 6) to Messiah JESUS but Quran does not have a single title on the Son of God but has replaced it with the "son of Mary"!
Let's analyze the Quran as where the error lies on Mary, sister of Aaron?
3:33 God did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:34 Offspring, one of the other: And God heareth and knoweth all things.
3:35 Behold! a woman of 'Imran said: "O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service: So accept this of me: For Thou hearest and knowest all things."
3:36 When she was delivered, she said: "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!"- and God knew best what she brought forth- "And no wise is the male Like the female. I have named her Mary ...
The question to be answered is that is it historically true that Mary was daughter of Imran?
The context of Surah 3:33-36 shows that Mary is the female child that came out of the womb of the wife of `Imran, then she is the direct daughter of `Imran and there is no question that the theory of "far descendency" is contradicted by the Qur'an itself.
In several Surahs the Qur'an confuses Mary the mother of Jesus [Miriam in Hebrew] with Miriam the sister of Aaron and Moses, and daughter of Amram who lived around 1,400 B.C.
At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28
And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12
Moses and Aaron are sons of Amran (Exodus 6:20), called "Musa ibn `Imran" and "Harun ibn `Imran" in the Hadiths, just the same way as Mary is called "Maryam ibnat `Imran" in Sura 66:12.
Exodus 6:20 And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years.
Only Aaron became a Priest of the Lord and in fact the first High Priest. And only Aaron's descendents became priests or prophets of God.
Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Neither Moses nor their sister Miriam are ever understood to be in "priestly lineage." Amram is definitely not a priest. If Mary's lineage of being part of a priestly family should be stressed, then necessarily she would have to be called a daughter of Aaron, since all of Israel's priests are descendants of Aaron, while his brother Moses and sister Miriam are not reckoned among the priestly line.
Muhammad understood that Jesus, son of Mary sister of Aaron, was created by God as that of Adam and he advised those who disagreed to invoke God to curse those who lie.
3:59 The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
3:60 The Truth (comes) from God alone; so be not of those who doubt.
3:61 If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of God on those who lie!"
As the words of Muhammad contradicted with the words of Lord JESUS CHRIST, the Son of God, the curse will fall on the originator of the lie and those who lied against JESUS the Son of God. Lord JESUS CHRIST said explicitly "I came down from Heaven" and "I came out from GOD".
John 6:38 For I came down from Heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 16:27-28 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God; I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
Lord JESUS CHRIST made it very clear that no man lives in Heaven and that "I am from above and ye are of this world; I am not of this world".
John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
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John 1:18 No man hath ever seen God; the only begotten God, he who is in the bosom of his Father, he hath declared [him].
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John 3:13 (Jesus said) And no man hath ascended up to Heaven, but he that came down from Heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven.
Muhammad had mistaken Mary or Miriam and Aaron are sister and brother of Moses who lived at least 1400 years apart from Mary, mother of Jesus. Mary has a cousin by the name of Elizabeth who is the daughters of Aaron (Luke 1:5 & 36).
Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
In kinship terminology, a cousin is a relative with whom one shares a common ancestor. Hence the term "cousin" means Mary and Elizabeth are from the same forefathers. As Elizabeth is from the descent of Aaron the priesthood bloodline, Mary shall also be called the daughters of Aaron.
There is no escape that Quran is wrong in respect of the descent of Mary, the mother of Jesus. She is Not the sister of Aaron nor the daughter of Amran but the daughters of Aaron the priest. Because in the Jewish culture, the kinship is usually taken from the most influential forefathers and not the less influential one. Amran is not the priest of God as his son Aaron is the first Priest consecrated by Moses.
Exo 28:41 And thou shalt put them upon Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him; and shalt anoint them, and consecrate them, and sanctify them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office.
Historically, Mary the sister of Moses and Aaron is NOT the mother of JESUS CHRIST, the Son of GOD. Because Muhammad had identified the wrong mother who did Not bear JESUS CHRIST, the Son of God into the world, Quran is talking about another JESUS who is merely from the fables of Muhammad. Only the historical JESUS CHRIST is the true Messiah as told in the Gospel of the Holy Bible.
Quran is void of the truth!
Even though the Quran has 22 times of the title "Son of Mary" and 25 times of the Name Jesus, it DOES NOT glorify LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD because there is not a single time He is mentioned as the Son of God. This has nothing to do with culture of the Arabs but the works of the Satan. The title "Son of Mary" is not used by God the Father Himself who called Him "My Beloved Son" Matt 3:17.
The Jews were offending JESUS with the title son of Mary. Why Quran continues to insult Him???
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Do you call the Quran exalts JESUS or insulting Him continuously???
The Word of JESUS is the truth and not any man's word. Muslim like TDNC has quoted John 8:32 out of context.
John 8:31 Then Jesus said to the Jews who believed on Him, "If you continue in My Word, you are My disciples indeed.
John 8:32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
God will pity you if you do not repent of your sins and will suffer for eternity in Hell. I have proved to you that you believed in the fables of men and not in the historical facts about Mary and Jesus, the Son of God.
You have lied to JESUS and to GOD the Almighty when you share the false doctrines of men and consider it as from GOD. Liars will enter Hell fire for eternity.
Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Saturday, June 19, 2010
Friday, June 18, 2010
5 Hebrews prophets refuted Muhammad in respect of the Messiah Jesus was not killed
At least 3 prophets before Lord Jesus Christ had prophesied about the Messiah who would be crucified or killed for the sins of His people. Lord Jesus Christ also foretold that He would be scourged, crucified and killed but on the third day he would be raised again. Prophet Paul had confirmed the truth of the Messiah Jesus was crucified and was raised alive the third day.
Based on the Torahic Law, the matter is established that when Lord Jesus Christ came and claimed to the prophecies of Moses and Prophets before him, it cannot be disputed again under any other law of God. That the Messiah Jesus would be crucified, killed and resurrected on the Third Day is an absolute truth. Do you as a Muslim disagree with Muhammad for contradicting with the absolute truth of the Word of God? Yes or No?
Even after resurrection Lord Jesus Christ remained on earth for a period of 40 days to teach his apostles about the Holy Scriptures. All Apostles except Judas, had seen the body of the crucified Jesus in "another form". (John 20:19-31)
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God
You have no choice but to answer my question first as it had been posted to you before I take your next question. I will reply somewhere in the page and you have to read through the article attentively in order to find the answer.
Please answer my questions with a "yes" for "yes" and "No" for "No", you do not have to explain for whatever you said more than these comes of the evil.
Matt 5:37 (Jesus said) "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
All the Hebrews Prophets namely David, Isaiah, Daniel and Jesus Himself said the Messiah would be crucified or the man to be crucified was Jesus.
1. Only Muhammad disagreed with all previous prophets before him that Messiah Jesus was not crucified nor killed (S 4:157). Do you disagree with Muhammad or not? Yes or No?
If yes, then your Muhammad is a false prophet. If no, then you are no longer fit to be called a Muslim because by definition, Muslim is a person who believe that Muhammad is a prophet of God and also to believe in all the Prophets before him, and to submit to one God.
3. The Quran addresses Jesus as the Messiah in Surah 4:157 because there are prophecies about him in the OT. Yes or No?
Islam requires a Muslim to believe every words of the Prophets from Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah, Daniel and Jesus.
4. If a Muslim disagree with any words of the prophets, then he or she is no longer fit to be called a Muslim. Yes or No?
David prophesied by the Spirit of Christ that He would be pierced in the hands and legs. David was historically not crucified on the tree. He must be speaking about the Messiah Jesus who quoted Psalms 22:1 to identify Himself as the speaker while He was crucified on the Cross.
It fits the scenario perfectly well that Messiah Jesus was encompassed by dogs, i.e. the Romans and unbelieving Jews.
Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalms was written around 1,000 B.C. and by 610AD the Holy Bible of different languages have been circulated throughout the world. Yet around this time Muhammad declared the Quran is for CONFIRMING the Torah and the Gospel (S. 3:3) and not for superseding the earlier scriptures.
It implies Muhammad said the Holy Bible which contains the Torah and the Gospel are correct lest he contradicted himself with the Quran and should be reckoned as a disbeliever.
Sura 3:81 forbids Muhammad to contradict with the earlier scriptures of the prophets before him. Apparently Muhammad agreed to it otherwise he would not say Surah 3:3 which is for CONFIRMING the truth of the earlier scriptures.
Prophet Isaiah made a prophecy concerning the Messiah Jesus as the Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his Name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
When Lord Jesus said "all things that the Father has are mine", it literally means "all words of His Father" belongs to Him as co-owners. So He qualifies for all the titles stated in Isaiah 9:6.
John 16:15 "All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that He shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."
Is Lord Jesus Christ called the Prince of Peace? Yes.
He is the Prince of Peace as the key peacemaker between mankind and God which Satan caused man to fall into sin and created the spiritual barrier against GOD.
Matt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Lord Jesus Christ came to reconcile ALL things with GOD through His own Blood.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
When Lord Jesus said that he came to send a sword, He meant the "sword" is the Word of God, not the physical sword. It's because some believe in the Word of God and some don't which causes a man to be at variance with others.
Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God:
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Isa 40:13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his Counsellor hath taught him? As the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit, then the Counsellor is the Spirit of Christ. In other words, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit and Counsellor are one the same in nature.
The Law of God in Isaiah 9:6 proves that a son born into world is entitled to the called The Mighty God. It exactly fits the title for Jesus Christ who is the Son of God or the Mighty God.
For the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy (Rev 19:10). So the Spirit of Prophecy or the Holy Spirit was speaking through Prophet Isaiah giving the testimony of Jesus.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare His generation? For He was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgression of My people He was stricken.
"Cut off out of the land of the living" means He would be killed and departed from the land of the living to the spirit world.
Daniel was taught by Gabriel that the Messiah would come 7 weeks and 62 weeks from the decree to rebuilt the Jerusalem Temple. It is reckoned as 567 years from 539BC which arrived at 29AD. Jesus Messiah was the one who appeared publicly during the time as prophesied by Daniel. There is no doubt it is Messiah Jesus as Gabriel had taught Daniel to know the time.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
The Messiah the Prince will be cut off or be killed.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
This prophecy was written around 535 BC and was kept by the Jews, not by the Christians. So the Christians have no way to change the Hebrews scriptures of the Jews which are kept by them secretly.
Lord Jesus Christ further identified Himself as the one spoken by Prophet Daniel by foretelling His own death and His resurrection on the Third Day.
Mat 17:22 And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, "The Son of Man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:
Mat 17:23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again." And they were exceeding sorry.
The Name of Jesus is found in the OT as many as 197 verses in the form of "Joshua". Joshua comes from Hebrew word H3091 "Yehoshua" which means "YHVH is the Salvation." Jesus is an English translation from Greek word G2424 Iesous which in Hebrew reads as "Yehoshua".
Exodus 17:9 And Moses said unto Joshua, Choose us out men, and go out, fight with Amalek: to morrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the rod of God in mine hand.
Yeshoshua was the spiritual leader after Moses to lead the Israelites from the wilderness into the promised land - the present day Israel. He fought with and conquered the enemies of his people, brought them into the promised land, and divided it to them by lot. The parallel between him and Jesus the Savior of the world is too evident to require pointing out.
Surah 61:6 Yusuf Ali
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
5. Ahmad means the Praised One and Muhammad means Praiseworthy. Muhammad does not mean "advocate, consoler, intercessor, comforter". Yes or No?
6. As Muhammad does not mean "comforter", then why Muslims intentionally twisted the word of LORD JESUS for Parakletos to mean "praiseworthy"???
John 14:26 But the Comforter(Parakletos), which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
All 4 Prophets namely Isaiah, David, Daniel, Jesus Himself said the Messiah would be killed or the man to be crucified was Jesus Himself. Paul concurred with all the 4 prophets before him. This proves that 5 Prophets have established the absolute truth against any false prophecy which may object to it. The matter was established around 34 AD when Prophet Paul preached and wrote about crucifixion and resurrection of Lord Jesus Christ.
We have 4 Prophets prophesied the same matter that the Messiah Jesus would be killed or the man to be crucified was Jesus as He is the Spirit of Christ (1 Pet 1:11). Even Paul concurred with prophecies of David, Isaiah, Daniel & Jesus Himself.
Only Muhammad contradicted with all 5 Hebrews Prophets!
Muhammad recited:
"And because of their saying: "We slew the Messiah Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger" - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. (Surah 4:157 Pickthal)
Simple logic supports that 5 Hebrews prophets are the absolute truth based on the Law on 2 or 3 witnesses. A message coming from outside time-space would not change to later contradict itself. We are forced to conclude that Daniel and Muhammad did not receive words from the same spiritual being. Who is the true archangel Gabriel?
However, a "false" Gabriel appears to have spoken to Muhammad from INSIDE time-space. No long-term prophecies have been observed. This infers that the message given to Muhammad is not from God. Muhammad appears to have been deceived.
7. Did Muhammad the praiseworthy contradict with the prophets before him? Yes or No?
8. Do you believe that Jesus Christ foretold His apostles that He would be arrested, scourged, crucified and resurrected on the third day? Yes or No?
9. Do you believe that Prophet Daniel was told by Gabriel that the Messiah the Prince would be cut off or killed as told in the scripture? Yes or No?
10. Do you believe that Prophet David prophesied about the crucifxion of a man who called "My God, My God, why has you forsaken me?" That man has been identified as Messiah Jesus. Yes or No?
11. Do you believe that Prophet Isaiah spoke by the Spirit of Christ (1 Pet 1:11) that the Messiah would be killed?
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
12. Do you as a Muslim believe that Prophet Isaiah prophesied about the birth of a son called Emmanuel which means "God dwelt with us"? Yes or No?
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, "God with us."
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word (God) was made Flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Muslims cannot defend by saying the Quran is superior than the Holy Bible because God revealed His words in the earlier scriptures without any dispute. Only the Quran has discrepancies with the Holy Bible. Deut 18:22 provided for the words of the false prophet to be exposed if the things spoken of follow not or is untrue nor come to fulfilment, then it is not the Word of God.
Deut 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Surah 4:157 is proven to be a forgery because 5 Prophets have refuted it. Muslims have to concede that Muhammad was a false prophet as the Law of God on the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses have been fulfilled and it cannot be challenged nor the credibility of the prophets concerned and neither the Word of God can be questioned when the latter book has confirmed the earlier scriptures to be the truth.
From Muhammad until AL-GHAZZALI (1111) before 1064AD, Muslims believed in the truth of the Torah and the Gospel. Muhammad recited Sura 3:3 implying Quran is merely confirming the Torah and the Gospel even as Allah gave the earlier revelations.
13. So why muslims today evolved and follow the false teachings of Ibn-Khazem???
WHY DO MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED?
In 1064, Ibn-Khazem, FIRST charged that the Bible had been corrupted and the Bible falsified. This charge was to defend Islam against Christianity because Ibn-Khazem come upon differences and contradiction between the Bible and the Quran. Believing, by faith (without evidence, 70 contradictions in Quran are clearer than blind-faith) that the Quran was true, the Bible must then be false. He said, "Since the Quran must be true it must be the conflicting Gospel texts that are false. But Muhammad tells us to respect the Gospel. Therefore, the present text must have been falsified by the Christians after the time of Muhammad."
His argument was not based on any evidence or historical facts but only on his personal faith, reasoning and desire to safeguard the Quran.
This led him to teach that, "The Christians lost the revealed Gospel except for a few traces which God has left intact as argument against them."
Apparently Ibn-Khezam was willingly used by Satan to teach the false doctrines and fables of men.
BUT,
Many great MUSLIM teachers DO NOT believe the Bible has been corrupted and ACCEPT the authenticity of our PRESENT New Testament texts.
a. Ali al-Tabari (died 855) accepted the Gospel texts
b. Amr al-Ghakhiz (869) " " " "
c. BUKHARI (810-870) " " " "
(he gathered some of the earliest tradition of Islam quoted the Quran itself to support his belief in the text of the Bible Sura 3:72,78)
d. Al-Mas'udi (956) " " " "
e. Abu Ali Husain Bin Sina (1037)" " "
f. AL-GHAZZALI (1111) " " " "
(probably the greatest Muslim scholar he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his teachings)
g. Ibn-Khaldun (1406) " " " " " "
(he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his
teachings but rather believed the earlier Islamic
teachers.)
h. Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan, founder of the Aligarh College
"In the opinion of us Mohammedans it is not proved that corruption (tahrif-i-lafzi)...was practiced."
i. Fakhruddin Razi, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, a nephew
of Muhammed, "The Jews and early Christians were suspected of altering the text of the Taurat and Injil;
but in the opinion of eminent doctors and theologians it
was not practicable thus to corrupt the text, because
those Scriptures were generally known and widely
circulated, having been handed down from generation to generation."
SO,
14. WHY do Muslims follow Ibn-Khazem rather then the witness of the Quran, the word of Muhammad, and these 10 great Muslim scholars who all believed the Bible texts to be truthful?
15. God has never appointed one prophet to write his message in a book for mankind before Muhammad. Why would the all-wise God reject the writings from over 40 holy men, prophets and apostles whose life lived up to the holiness of God?
Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Apparently there is only one seed of Christ and one Everlasting Kingdom under Lord Jesus Christ. There is no kingdom for Muslims when Lord Jesus Christ returns to earth to rule for a thousand years.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an Everlasting Kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Muhammad will not have an everlasting Kingdom. It is Lord Jesus Christ who is given the Everlasting Kingdom to rule as the King of kings and Lord of lords.
16. Do you agree with Prophet Daniel that "kingdom under the whole heaven" shall be given to "the People of the saints of the Most High" who is called King JESUS?
In the Quran there are 22 times of the title Son of Mary and and 25 times of the Name Jesus. But the Son of Mary is not used by God who called Him "My Beloved Son" Matt 3:17.
The Jews were offending JESUS with the title son of Mary. Why Quran continues to insult Him???
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Do you call the Quran exalts JESUS or insulting Him continuously???
Based on the Torahic Law, the matter is established that when Lord Jesus Christ came and claimed to the prophecies of Moses and Prophets before him, it cannot be disputed again under any other law of God. That the Messiah Jesus would be crucified, killed and resurrected on the Third Day is an absolute truth. Do you as a Muslim disagree with Muhammad for contradicting with the absolute truth of the Word of God? Yes or No?
Even after resurrection Lord Jesus Christ remained on earth for a period of 40 days to teach his apostles about the Holy Scriptures. All Apostles except Judas, had seen the body of the crucified Jesus in "another form". (John 20:19-31)
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God
You have no choice but to answer my question first as it had been posted to you before I take your next question. I will reply somewhere in the page and you have to read through the article attentively in order to find the answer.
Please answer my questions with a "yes" for "yes" and "No" for "No", you do not have to explain for whatever you said more than these comes of the evil.
Matt 5:37 (Jesus said) "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
All the Hebrews Prophets namely David, Isaiah, Daniel and Jesus Himself said the Messiah would be crucified or the man to be crucified was Jesus.
1. Only Muhammad disagreed with all previous prophets before him that Messiah Jesus was not crucified nor killed (S 4:157). Do you disagree with Muhammad or not? Yes or No?
If yes, then your Muhammad is a false prophet. If no, then you are no longer fit to be called a Muslim because by definition, Muslim is a person who believe that Muhammad is a prophet of God and also to believe in all the Prophets before him, and to submit to one God.
3. The Quran addresses Jesus as the Messiah in Surah 4:157 because there are prophecies about him in the OT. Yes or No?
Islam requires a Muslim to believe every words of the Prophets from Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah, Daniel and Jesus.
4. If a Muslim disagree with any words of the prophets, then he or she is no longer fit to be called a Muslim. Yes or No?
David prophesied by the Spirit of Christ that He would be pierced in the hands and legs. David was historically not crucified on the tree. He must be speaking about the Messiah Jesus who quoted Psalms 22:1 to identify Himself as the speaker while He was crucified on the Cross.
It fits the scenario perfectly well that Messiah Jesus was encompassed by dogs, i.e. the Romans and unbelieving Jews.
Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalms was written around 1,000 B.C. and by 610AD the Holy Bible of different languages have been circulated throughout the world. Yet around this time Muhammad declared the Quran is for CONFIRMING the Torah and the Gospel (S. 3:3) and not for superseding the earlier scriptures.
It implies Muhammad said the Holy Bible which contains the Torah and the Gospel are correct lest he contradicted himself with the Quran and should be reckoned as a disbeliever.
Sura 3:81 forbids Muhammad to contradict with the earlier scriptures of the prophets before him. Apparently Muhammad agreed to it otherwise he would not say Surah 3:3 which is for CONFIRMING the truth of the earlier scriptures.
Prophet Isaiah made a prophecy concerning the Messiah Jesus as the Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his Name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
When Lord Jesus said "all things that the Father has are mine", it literally means "all words of His Father" belongs to Him as co-owners. So He qualifies for all the titles stated in Isaiah 9:6.
John 16:15 "All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that He shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."
Is Lord Jesus Christ called the Prince of Peace? Yes.
He is the Prince of Peace as the key peacemaker between mankind and God which Satan caused man to fall into sin and created the spiritual barrier against GOD.
Matt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Lord Jesus Christ came to reconcile ALL things with GOD through His own Blood.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
When Lord Jesus said that he came to send a sword, He meant the "sword" is the Word of God, not the physical sword. It's because some believe in the Word of God and some don't which causes a man to be at variance with others.
Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God:
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Isa 40:13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his Counsellor hath taught him? As the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit, then the Counsellor is the Spirit of Christ. In other words, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit and Counsellor are one the same in nature.
The Law of God in Isaiah 9:6 proves that a son born into world is entitled to the called The Mighty God. It exactly fits the title for Jesus Christ who is the Son of God or the Mighty God.
For the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy (Rev 19:10). So the Spirit of Prophecy or the Holy Spirit was speaking through Prophet Isaiah giving the testimony of Jesus.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare His generation? For He was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgression of My people He was stricken.
"Cut off out of the land of the living" means He would be killed and departed from the land of the living to the spirit world.
Daniel was taught by Gabriel that the Messiah would come 7 weeks and 62 weeks from the decree to rebuilt the Jerusalem Temple. It is reckoned as 567 years from 539BC which arrived at 29AD. Jesus Messiah was the one who appeared publicly during the time as prophesied by Daniel. There is no doubt it is Messiah Jesus as Gabriel had taught Daniel to know the time.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
The Messiah the Prince will be cut off or be killed.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
This prophecy was written around 535 BC and was kept by the Jews, not by the Christians. So the Christians have no way to change the Hebrews scriptures of the Jews which are kept by them secretly.
Lord Jesus Christ further identified Himself as the one spoken by Prophet Daniel by foretelling His own death and His resurrection on the Third Day.
Mat 17:22 And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, "The Son of Man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:
Mat 17:23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again." And they were exceeding sorry.
The Name of Jesus is found in the OT as many as 197 verses in the form of "Joshua". Joshua comes from Hebrew word H3091 "Yehoshua" which means "YHVH is the Salvation." Jesus is an English translation from Greek word G2424 Iesous which in Hebrew reads as "Yehoshua".
Exodus 17:9 And Moses said unto Joshua, Choose us out men, and go out, fight with Amalek: to morrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the rod of God in mine hand.
Yeshoshua was the spiritual leader after Moses to lead the Israelites from the wilderness into the promised land - the present day Israel. He fought with and conquered the enemies of his people, brought them into the promised land, and divided it to them by lot. The parallel between him and Jesus the Savior of the world is too evident to require pointing out.
Surah 61:6 Yusuf Ali
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
5. Ahmad means the Praised One and Muhammad means Praiseworthy. Muhammad does not mean "advocate, consoler, intercessor, comforter". Yes or No?
6. As Muhammad does not mean "comforter", then why Muslims intentionally twisted the word of LORD JESUS for Parakletos to mean "praiseworthy"???
John 14:26 But the Comforter(Parakletos), which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
All 4 Prophets namely Isaiah, David, Daniel, Jesus Himself said the Messiah would be killed or the man to be crucified was Jesus Himself. Paul concurred with all the 4 prophets before him. This proves that 5 Prophets have established the absolute truth against any false prophecy which may object to it. The matter was established around 34 AD when Prophet Paul preached and wrote about crucifixion and resurrection of Lord Jesus Christ.
We have 4 Prophets prophesied the same matter that the Messiah Jesus would be killed or the man to be crucified was Jesus as He is the Spirit of Christ (1 Pet 1:11). Even Paul concurred with prophecies of David, Isaiah, Daniel & Jesus Himself.
Only Muhammad contradicted with all 5 Hebrews Prophets!
Muhammad recited:
"And because of their saying: "We slew the Messiah Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger" - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. (Surah 4:157 Pickthal)
Simple logic supports that 5 Hebrews prophets are the absolute truth based on the Law on 2 or 3 witnesses. A message coming from outside time-space would not change to later contradict itself. We are forced to conclude that Daniel and Muhammad did not receive words from the same spiritual being. Who is the true archangel Gabriel?
However, a "false" Gabriel appears to have spoken to Muhammad from INSIDE time-space. No long-term prophecies have been observed. This infers that the message given to Muhammad is not from God. Muhammad appears to have been deceived.
7. Did Muhammad the praiseworthy contradict with the prophets before him? Yes or No?
8. Do you believe that Jesus Christ foretold His apostles that He would be arrested, scourged, crucified and resurrected on the third day? Yes or No?
9. Do you believe that Prophet Daniel was told by Gabriel that the Messiah the Prince would be cut off or killed as told in the scripture? Yes or No?
10. Do you believe that Prophet David prophesied about the crucifxion of a man who called "My God, My God, why has you forsaken me?" That man has been identified as Messiah Jesus. Yes or No?
11. Do you believe that Prophet Isaiah spoke by the Spirit of Christ (1 Pet 1:11) that the Messiah would be killed?
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
12. Do you as a Muslim believe that Prophet Isaiah prophesied about the birth of a son called Emmanuel which means "God dwelt with us"? Yes or No?
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, "God with us."
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word (God) was made Flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Muslims cannot defend by saying the Quran is superior than the Holy Bible because God revealed His words in the earlier scriptures without any dispute. Only the Quran has discrepancies with the Holy Bible. Deut 18:22 provided for the words of the false prophet to be exposed if the things spoken of follow not or is untrue nor come to fulfilment, then it is not the Word of God.
Deut 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Surah 4:157 is proven to be a forgery because 5 Prophets have refuted it. Muslims have to concede that Muhammad was a false prophet as the Law of God on the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses have been fulfilled and it cannot be challenged nor the credibility of the prophets concerned and neither the Word of God can be questioned when the latter book has confirmed the earlier scriptures to be the truth.
From Muhammad until AL-GHAZZALI (1111) before 1064AD, Muslims believed in the truth of the Torah and the Gospel. Muhammad recited Sura 3:3 implying Quran is merely confirming the Torah and the Gospel even as Allah gave the earlier revelations.
13. So why muslims today evolved and follow the false teachings of Ibn-Khazem???
WHY DO MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED?
In 1064, Ibn-Khazem, FIRST charged that the Bible had been corrupted and the Bible falsified. This charge was to defend Islam against Christianity because Ibn-Khazem come upon differences and contradiction between the Bible and the Quran. Believing, by faith (without evidence, 70 contradictions in Quran are clearer than blind-faith) that the Quran was true, the Bible must then be false. He said, "Since the Quran must be true it must be the conflicting Gospel texts that are false. But Muhammad tells us to respect the Gospel. Therefore, the present text must have been falsified by the Christians after the time of Muhammad."
His argument was not based on any evidence or historical facts but only on his personal faith, reasoning and desire to safeguard the Quran.
This led him to teach that, "The Christians lost the revealed Gospel except for a few traces which God has left intact as argument against them."
Apparently Ibn-Khezam was willingly used by Satan to teach the false doctrines and fables of men.
BUT,
Many great MUSLIM teachers DO NOT believe the Bible has been corrupted and ACCEPT the authenticity of our PRESENT New Testament texts.
a. Ali al-Tabari (died 855) accepted the Gospel texts
b. Amr al-Ghakhiz (869) " " " "
c. BUKHARI (810-870) " " " "
(he gathered some of the earliest tradition of Islam quoted the Quran itself to support his belief in the text of the Bible Sura 3:72,78)
d. Al-Mas'udi (956) " " " "
e. Abu Ali Husain Bin Sina (1037)" " "
f. AL-GHAZZALI (1111) " " " "
(probably the greatest Muslim scholar he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his teachings)
g. Ibn-Khaldun (1406) " " " " " "
(he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his
teachings but rather believed the earlier Islamic
teachers.)
h. Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan, founder of the Aligarh College
"In the opinion of us Mohammedans it is not proved that corruption (tahrif-i-lafzi)...was practiced."
i. Fakhruddin Razi, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, a nephew
of Muhammed, "The Jews and early Christians were suspected of altering the text of the Taurat and Injil;
but in the opinion of eminent doctors and theologians it
was not practicable thus to corrupt the text, because
those Scriptures were generally known and widely
circulated, having been handed down from generation to generation."
SO,
14. WHY do Muslims follow Ibn-Khazem rather then the witness of the Quran, the word of Muhammad, and these 10 great Muslim scholars who all believed the Bible texts to be truthful?
15. God has never appointed one prophet to write his message in a book for mankind before Muhammad. Why would the all-wise God reject the writings from over 40 holy men, prophets and apostles whose life lived up to the holiness of God?
Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Apparently there is only one seed of Christ and one Everlasting Kingdom under Lord Jesus Christ. There is no kingdom for Muslims when Lord Jesus Christ returns to earth to rule for a thousand years.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an Everlasting Kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Muhammad will not have an everlasting Kingdom. It is Lord Jesus Christ who is given the Everlasting Kingdom to rule as the King of kings and Lord of lords.
16. Do you agree with Prophet Daniel that "kingdom under the whole heaven" shall be given to "the People of the saints of the Most High" who is called King JESUS?
In the Quran there are 22 times of the title Son of Mary and and 25 times of the Name Jesus. But the Son of Mary is not used by God who called Him "My Beloved Son" Matt 3:17.
The Jews were offending JESUS with the title son of Mary. Why Quran continues to insult Him???
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Do you call the Quran exalts JESUS or insulting Him continuously???
Monday, June 14, 2010
Most Muslims said they believe in Prophet JESUS, any similarities with JESUS?
Prophet Isa is the chief corner stone better than the Black Stone of the Ka'aba!
Mat 21:42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
Acts 4:11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.
"Built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord." Eph 2:20-21
1Pet 2:4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious,
1Pet 2:5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a Spiritual House, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
1Pet 2:6 For it stands in Scripture: "Behold, I am laying in Zion [Jerusalem] a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame."
1Pet 2:7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe, "The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,"
John 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
John 4:20 Our fathers worshiped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Prophet Isa made it clear that His Father does not desire a particular place of worship such as the Ka'aba or Jerusalem Temple.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: For salvation is of the Jews.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
To worship the Father in spirit and in truth is only possible when a worshipper submit his will to the leading of the Holy Spirit and allow the Spirit of God to take over the worship. The prostration in worship is never taught by Prophet Isa.
From the posture of JESUS' examples in prayer, He never face the direction of Ka'aba when He prayed to His Father in Heaven. This shows that the Arabs during the pre-Islamic period, are facing the "idol of allah" - The Ka'aba - an image made of stones and marbles cut by humans' hands and the Black Stone embedded in the southeastern corner of the Ka'aba has the root of paganism.
LORD JESUS never kiss the Black Stone, nor circumambulate the Ka'aba. He never pray facing the direction of the Ka'aba. It is therefore concluded that the Ka'aba is the bigger idol than the 360 idols that were destroyed by Muhammad together with chief god of the Quraysh, the Hubal.
There are 4 instances that Lord JESUS looked up to Heaven and prayed or talked to His Father (Mat 14:19, Mark 6:41, Mark 7:34 & John 17:1). Only 1 instance of Lord JESUS fell on His Face (Mat 26:39) and then He knelt down and prayed earnestly (Luke 22:41-44) .
Lord Jesus fell to the ground in prayer when He was exceeding sorrowful as unto death. Do Muslims always fell sorrowful like Lord JESUS when they prostrate in prayers??? So how could Muslims quote the instant of Lord JESUS when His condition was in distress while Muslims are not in distress when they prostrate!!! Aha... Muslims are guilty of false emulation and claim.
Mark 14:34 And (Jesus) saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Mark 14:35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Abraham stood up to pray and he did not prostrate before the House.
Surah 3:97 (P)
Wherein are plain memorials; the place where Abraham stood up to pray; and whosoever entereth it is safe. And PILGRIMAGE to THE HOUSE is a duty unto Allah for Mankind, for him who can find a way thither. As for him who disbelieveth, Lo! Allah is Independent of creatures.
Mat 6:7 Jesus said "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
If you disobey Lord Jesus and keep praying from written prayer-books by repeating the prayers 5 times a day, then you are in danger of hell-fire.
Surah 4:14 Pickthal
And whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger (JESUS) and transgresseth His limits, He will make him ENTER Fire, where he will dwell Forever; his will be a shameful doom.
As a matter of fact, not one of the 99 names of Allah mean "the Father". Therefore it shall conclude that Allah is not the Father of Jesus and not the God of the Christians.
Surah 3:81 (P) When Allah made COVENANT with the PROPHETS: "Behold that which I have given you of the Scripture and knowledge. And AFTERWARD there will come unto you a Messenger, CONFIRMING that which ye possess. Ye shall believe in him and ye shall help him.
The words of Muhammad cannot contradict with the scripture of the Gospel of Jesus. If the words contradict with the teachings of Jesus and prophets before him, then those words are not from the same God but from the Devil, the liar.
Surah 2:125 (P) And when We made THE HOUSE (Ka'aba) a resort for Mankind and a sanctuary: Take as your place of WORSHIP the place where Abraham stood.
Surah 2:125 (P) ... And We imposed a duty upon Abraham and Ishmael: Purify My House for those who go around and those who meditate therein and those who BOW DOWN and prostrate themselves.
Obviously the words of Allah in Surah 2:125 contradict with the law of Yehovah in Leviticius 26:1.
Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you NO idols nor graven image, Neither rear you up a STANDING IMAGE, Neither shall ye set up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land, to Bow Down unto it: for I am Yehovah[YHVH] your God.
Surah 3:97 contradicts with the words of Prophet Isa Al-Massih.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, "Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall Neither in this mountain, Nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: For salvation is of the Jews.
Surah 2:127 (P)
And when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of THE HOUSE, (Abraham prayed):
Our Lord! Accept from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Nearer, the Knower.
Surah 2:158 (P)
Lo! Al-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore NO SIN for him who is on PILGRIMAGE to THE HOUSE (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (as the pagan custom is). And he who doeth good of his own accord (for him), Lo! Allah is Responsive,
Aware.
According to archaeological and historical records, Allah was the moon god married to the sun goddess, and together they had three daughters: goddesses Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat. (The first two names are feminine forms of 'Allah'). The worship of these three goddesses played a major part in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed. The worship of the moon god extended far beyond the Allah-worship in Arabia. The entire Fertile Crescent was involved in the worship of the moon.
JESUS looked up to Heaven when he prayed and did not look towards Ka'aba.
Matt 14:19 And He [JESUS] commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and LOOKING UP TO HEAVEN, He blessed, and broke, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
Mark 6:41 And when He had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, HE LOOKED UP TO HEAVEN, and blessed, and broke the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.
Mark 7:34 And LOOKING UP TO HEAVEN, He (JESUS) sighed, and saith unto him, "Ephphatha, that is, Be opened."
Mark 7:35 And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain.
Jn 17:1 These words spake JESUS, and LIFTED UP HIS EYES TO HEAVEN, and said, "FATHER, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
Jn 17:2 As thou hast given him Power over ALL FLESH, that HE should GIVE ETERNAL LIFE to as many as thou hast given Him.
Jn 11:40 JESUS answered her, "Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the Glory of God?
Jn 11:41 Then they took away the stone where the dead was laid. And JESUS LIFTED UP His eyes and said, "Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.
Jn 11:42 And I know that You hear Me always, but because of the people who stand by I said it, so that they may believe that You have sent Me."
Jn 11:43 And saying these things, He cried with a loud voice, "Lazarus, Here! Outside!
Jn 11:44 And he who had died came out, bound hand and foot with sheets, and his face was bound with a cloth. Jesus said to them, Untie him and let him go!
Jn 11:45 Then many of the Jews who came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on Him.
Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and KNEELED DOWN, and prayed,
Luke 22:42 Saying, "Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood FALLING DOWN to the ground.
Mat 26:39 And he went a little farther, and FELL ON HIS FACE, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Mat 26:42 He went away again the SECOND TIME, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Mat 26:44 And He left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.
Apostle Matthew recorded that JESUS walked a little further and fell on His face to pray for the first time. However the posture of JESUS for the second and third times were not mentioned.
Luke the Disciple recorded JESUS knelt down likely His third time, and prayed to His Father. That was the time His sweat of Blood falling down to the ground.
Mar 14:34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Mar 14:35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
Luke 18:11 The Pharisee STOOD and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee...
18:13 And the publican, STANDING afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
The overall posture of JESUS can be deduced consistently from His prayer's life before the event at Gethsemane.
He likely knelt down, fell on His face upon the ground and then looked up to Heaven to say the prayer.
The conclusion drawn from the posture of JESUS' example in prayer is that He never face the direction of Ka'aba when He prayed to His Father in Heaven. The early Muslims prayed in the direction of Jerusalem before diverting to Mecca.
This shows that the Arabs during the pre-Islamic period, are facing the "idol of allah". The Ka'aba, an image made of stones and marbles cut by hands of men and the Black Stone embedded in the southeastern corner of the Ka'aba has the root of paganism.
LORD JESUS never kiss the Black Stone, nor circumambulate the Ka'aba. He never pray facing the direction of the Ka'aba. All prophets before JESUS and PAUL did not bow down towards the Kaaba, it was Muhammad alone who practised kissing the Black Stone and prayed towards this idol.
There are 4 instances that LORD JESUS looked up to Heaven and prayed or talked to His Father (Mat 14:19, Mark 7:34, Jn 17:1 & Jn 11:41). Only 1 instance of LORD JESUS fell on His Face (Mat 26:39) and 1 instance of He knelt down to pray earnestly (Luke 22:41-44) .
As a matter of fact, not one of the 99 names of Allah mean "the Father". Therefore it shall conclude that Allah is not the Father of Jesus and not the God of the Christians. The Ka'aba is the bigger idol than the 360 idols that were destroyed by Muhammad together with chief god of the Quraysh, the Hubal.
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On the Face Before God
Num 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces. And the glory of Jehovah appeared to them.
Mat 26:39 And He went a little further and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.
Rev 1:17 And when I (John) saw Him (JESUS), I fell (prostrate) at His feet as dead. And He laid His right hand upon me, saying to me, "Do not fear, I am the First and the Last (i.e. the Alpha & the Omega)
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY."
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There is an evidence that Ishmaelites abandoned YHVH, the God of Abraham and worshipped the God of Baal or Allah about 1,000 BC based on the Psalms 83:1-8 as Ishmaelites and Hagarites attempted to destroy the convenant people of Israel from the face of the earth!
Psa 83:1 (A Song. A Psalm of Asaph.) Keep not silence, O God; do not be speechless, and be not still, O God.
Psa 83:2 For lo, Your enemies roar; and those who hate You have lifted up their head.
Psa 83:3 They take shrewd counsel against Your people, and plot against Your hidden ones.
Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, so that the name Israel may be remembered no more.
Psa 83:5 For with one heart they have plotted together; they have made a covenant against You--
Psa 83:6 the tents of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarites;
Psa 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the people of Tyre;
Psa 83:8 and Assyria has joined with them; they have helped the sons of Lot. Selah.
Allah in the Quran is not the same God of the Hebrews and of the Christians. Luke 9:50 And JESUS said to him, "Do not prevent him, FOR HE WHO IS NOT AGAINST US IS FOR US." As Mecaans claimed to be descendants of Ishmaelites, it is established that their Allah is against YHVH, FATHER of JESUS.
Exo 3:15 And God said to Moses again, You shall say this to the sons of Israel, YHVH the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My Name forever, and this is My Title from generation to generation.
Islam (The Kabaa and Chronology)
1. The Ka'aba and the Black Stone: "You shall make no idols to yourselves; you shall not set up for yourselves graven images, or A MEMORIAL PILLAR. And you shall not set up ANY IMAGE OF STONE in your land in order to BOW DOWN to it. For I am Jehovah your God." Leviticus 26:1 MKJV
Obviously a contradiction between Allah exists here
and the Yehovah of the Bible. If God prohibits the
worship of any image of stone- the Ka'aba is made of granite stone from Mecca and marble, how is possible that the same God allows the Muslims to worship the Ka'aba and the meteorite?
Therefore one concludes that Allah is not the God of the Bible.
2. Abraham, the first Jew born between 2000 and 1500 years before the common era. Mohammad claims to have been visited by angel Gabriel in 610 CE, at least 2100 years after Abraham died.
The claims that Abraham was a Muslim and he built the Ka'aba are ridiculous. Abraham was, of course, the Hebrew. If he had built the house as claimed, it must have been a synagogue and not a small cubical stone structure around 9m x 13m x 12.04m!
If Abraham was a Muslim and Jesus was a Muslim as Muslims claimed, which makes no sense to me as both of them are Hebrews. Jesus would have teach his people to pray in the direction of Ka'aba but one can see that Jesus prayed with his eyes lifted to Heaven and not to Ka'aba.
3. Mohammed got his facts confused... for example in Sura 28:38 of the Quran, it states that Pharoah (from Exodus)
asks Haman (from the book of Esther) to erect the
Tower of Babel (from Genesis), thereby mixing up
characters who lived thousands of years apart. No
wonder the Jews of his time were not very impressed
with him, and refused to accept him as a prophet.
And Pharaoh said, 'O ye chiefs! I do not know any
god for you except me; then set fire, O Haman! take some
clay and make for me a tower, haply I may mount up to
the God of Moses; for, verily, I think he is of those
who lie!'
The Quran tells us that Mohammad drove the other idols
away; he made one God now the only god and he was its
messenger. He kept the Kaaba as a holy, sacred place
and confirmed that the black stone had the power to
take away man's sins.
Allah commanded Abraham to proclaim to the mankind or every believer to make a pilgrimage to the Kaaba stone at least once in his lifetime. (Sura 22:26-37) But no Old Testament's prophets ever had a pilgrimage to the Ka'aba and kissed its Black Stone.
BEFORE Muhammad WAS BORN, IN THE NAME OF ALLAH:
1) running 7 times around the House of the moon god Hubal called the Kaabah.
2) stones were thrown at the devil.
3) a crescent was a key religious symbol.
4) praying toward the Black Stone in Mecca five times a day.
5) kissing the Black Stone.
6) killing an animal in sacrifice to the moon god.
7) fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon.
But essentially "allah" is NOT the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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22:26 (P) And (remember) when We prepared for Abraham the place of the (holy) House, saying: Ascribe thou no thing as partner unto Me, and purify My House for those who Make the Round (thereof) and those who stand and those who bow and make prostration.
22:27 (P) And proclaim unto mankind the pilgrimage. They will come unto thee on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every deep ravine,
22:28
Pickthal
That they may witness things that are of benefit to them, and mention the name of Allah on appointed days over the beast of cattle that He hath bestowed upon them. Then eat thereof and feed therewith the poor unfortunate.
22:29
Pickthal
Then let them make an end of their unkemptness and pay their vows and go around the ancient House.
22:30
Pickthal
That (is the command). And whoso magnifieth the sacred things of Allah, it will be well for him in the sight of his Lord. The cattle are lawful unto you save that which hath been told you. So shun the filth of idols, and shun lying speech,
22:31 Pickthal
Turning unto Allah (only), not ascribing partners unto Him; for whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, it is as if he had fallen from the sky and the birds had snatched him or the wind had blown him to a far-off place.
22:32 Pickthal
That (is the command). And whoso magnifieth the offerings consecrated to Allah, it surely is from devotion of the hearts,
22:33
Pickthal
Therein are benefits for you for an appointed term; and afterward they are brought for sacrifice unto the ancient House.
22:34
Pickthal
And for every nation have We appointed a ritual, that they may mention the name of Allah over the beast of cattle that He hath given them for food; and your God is One God, therefor surrender unto Him. And give good tidings (O Muhammad) to the humble,
22:35
Pickthal
Whose hearts fear when Allah is mentioned, and the patient of whatever may befall them, and those who establish worship and who spend of that We have bestowed on them.
22:36
Pickthal
And the camels! We have appointed them among the ceremonies of Allah. Therein ye have much good. So mention the name of Allah over them when they are drawn up in lines. Then when their flanks fall (dead), eat thereof and feed the beggar and the suppliant. Thus have We made them subject unto you, that haply ye may give thanks.
22:37
Pickthal
Their flesh and their food reach not Allah, but the devotion from you reacheth Him. Thus have We made them subject unto you that ye may magnify Allah that He hath guided you. And give good tidings (O Muhammad) to the good.
Surah 3:96
Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Becca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;
LORD JESUS fell on His face at the Garden of Gethsemane to pray in agony.
MUSLIMS bow on their heads to the ground to pray in gladness!
Mat 26:37 And He (JESUS) took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
Mat 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
Mat 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Examining the idiom "fell on his face" is his face is flat on the ground and not head bows to the floor. When you fell on your face, your lips are touching the floor and not the forehead touches the floor. These are different postures altogether. LORD JESUS also knelt down to pray in one of the 3 times of prayers at Gethsemane.
Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and Kneeled Down, and prayed,
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Luke 22:43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
When Lord JESUS prayed in that posture, He shed drops of blood in His sweat. Do Muslims imitating Jesus' posture to fell on the face to pray in agony or not??? If not, then the normal way of prayer used by LORD JESUS is looking up to the Heaven and not felling on his face.
Muslims have not followed the doctrines and prayer life-style of LORD JESUS at all except greetings of peace!
Mat 21:42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
Acts 4:11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.
"Built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord." Eph 2:20-21
1Pet 2:4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious,
1Pet 2:5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a Spiritual House, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
1Pet 2:6 For it stands in Scripture: "Behold, I am laying in Zion [Jerusalem] a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame."
1Pet 2:7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe, "The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,"
John 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
John 4:20 Our fathers worshiped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Prophet Isa made it clear that His Father does not desire a particular place of worship such as the Ka'aba or Jerusalem Temple.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: For salvation is of the Jews.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
To worship the Father in spirit and in truth is only possible when a worshipper submit his will to the leading of the Holy Spirit and allow the Spirit of God to take over the worship. The prostration in worship is never taught by Prophet Isa.
From the posture of JESUS' examples in prayer, He never face the direction of Ka'aba when He prayed to His Father in Heaven. This shows that the Arabs during the pre-Islamic period, are facing the "idol of allah" - The Ka'aba - an image made of stones and marbles cut by humans' hands and the Black Stone embedded in the southeastern corner of the Ka'aba has the root of paganism.
LORD JESUS never kiss the Black Stone, nor circumambulate the Ka'aba. He never pray facing the direction of the Ka'aba. It is therefore concluded that the Ka'aba is the bigger idol than the 360 idols that were destroyed by Muhammad together with chief god of the Quraysh, the Hubal.
There are 4 instances that Lord JESUS looked up to Heaven and prayed or talked to His Father (Mat 14:19, Mark 6:41, Mark 7:34 & John 17:1). Only 1 instance of Lord JESUS fell on His Face (Mat 26:39) and then He knelt down and prayed earnestly (Luke 22:41-44) .
Lord Jesus fell to the ground in prayer when He was exceeding sorrowful as unto death. Do Muslims always fell sorrowful like Lord JESUS when they prostrate in prayers??? So how could Muslims quote the instant of Lord JESUS when His condition was in distress while Muslims are not in distress when they prostrate!!! Aha... Muslims are guilty of false emulation and claim.
Mark 14:34 And (Jesus) saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Mark 14:35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Abraham stood up to pray and he did not prostrate before the House.
Surah 3:97 (P)
Wherein are plain memorials; the place where Abraham stood up to pray; and whosoever entereth it is safe. And PILGRIMAGE to THE HOUSE is a duty unto Allah for Mankind, for him who can find a way thither. As for him who disbelieveth, Lo! Allah is Independent of creatures.
Mat 6:7 Jesus said "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
If you disobey Lord Jesus and keep praying from written prayer-books by repeating the prayers 5 times a day, then you are in danger of hell-fire.
Surah 4:14 Pickthal
And whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger (JESUS) and transgresseth His limits, He will make him ENTER Fire, where he will dwell Forever; his will be a shameful doom.
As a matter of fact, not one of the 99 names of Allah mean "the Father". Therefore it shall conclude that Allah is not the Father of Jesus and not the God of the Christians.
Surah 3:81 (P) When Allah made COVENANT with the PROPHETS: "Behold that which I have given you of the Scripture and knowledge. And AFTERWARD there will come unto you a Messenger, CONFIRMING that which ye possess. Ye shall believe in him and ye shall help him.
The words of Muhammad cannot contradict with the scripture of the Gospel of Jesus. If the words contradict with the teachings of Jesus and prophets before him, then those words are not from the same God but from the Devil, the liar.
Surah 2:125 (P) And when We made THE HOUSE (Ka'aba) a resort for Mankind and a sanctuary: Take as your place of WORSHIP the place where Abraham stood.
Surah 2:125 (P) ... And We imposed a duty upon Abraham and Ishmael: Purify My House for those who go around and those who meditate therein and those who BOW DOWN and prostrate themselves.
Obviously the words of Allah in Surah 2:125 contradict with the law of Yehovah in Leviticius 26:1.
Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you NO idols nor graven image, Neither rear you up a STANDING IMAGE, Neither shall ye set up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land, to Bow Down unto it: for I am Yehovah[YHVH] your God.
Surah 3:97 contradicts with the words of Prophet Isa Al-Massih.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, "Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall Neither in this mountain, Nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: For salvation is of the Jews.
Surah 2:127 (P)
And when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of THE HOUSE, (Abraham prayed):
Our Lord! Accept from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Nearer, the Knower.
Surah 2:158 (P)
Lo! Al-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore NO SIN for him who is on PILGRIMAGE to THE HOUSE (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (as the pagan custom is). And he who doeth good of his own accord (for him), Lo! Allah is Responsive,
Aware.
According to archaeological and historical records, Allah was the moon god married to the sun goddess, and together they had three daughters: goddesses Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat. (The first two names are feminine forms of 'Allah'). The worship of these three goddesses played a major part in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed. The worship of the moon god extended far beyond the Allah-worship in Arabia. The entire Fertile Crescent was involved in the worship of the moon.
JESUS looked up to Heaven when he prayed and did not look towards Ka'aba.
Matt 14:19 And He [JESUS] commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and LOOKING UP TO HEAVEN, He blessed, and broke, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
Mark 6:41 And when He had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, HE LOOKED UP TO HEAVEN, and blessed, and broke the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.
Mark 7:34 And LOOKING UP TO HEAVEN, He (JESUS) sighed, and saith unto him, "Ephphatha, that is, Be opened."
Mark 7:35 And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain.
Jn 17:1 These words spake JESUS, and LIFTED UP HIS EYES TO HEAVEN, and said, "FATHER, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
Jn 17:2 As thou hast given him Power over ALL FLESH, that HE should GIVE ETERNAL LIFE to as many as thou hast given Him.
Jn 11:40 JESUS answered her, "Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the Glory of God?
Jn 11:41 Then they took away the stone where the dead was laid. And JESUS LIFTED UP His eyes and said, "Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.
Jn 11:42 And I know that You hear Me always, but because of the people who stand by I said it, so that they may believe that You have sent Me."
Jn 11:43 And saying these things, He cried with a loud voice, "Lazarus, Here! Outside!
Jn 11:44 And he who had died came out, bound hand and foot with sheets, and his face was bound with a cloth. Jesus said to them, Untie him and let him go!
Jn 11:45 Then many of the Jews who came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on Him.
Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and KNEELED DOWN, and prayed,
Luke 22:42 Saying, "Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood FALLING DOWN to the ground.
Mat 26:39 And he went a little farther, and FELL ON HIS FACE, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Mat 26:42 He went away again the SECOND TIME, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Mat 26:44 And He left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.
Apostle Matthew recorded that JESUS walked a little further and fell on His face to pray for the first time. However the posture of JESUS for the second and third times were not mentioned.
Luke the Disciple recorded JESUS knelt down likely His third time, and prayed to His Father. That was the time His sweat of Blood falling down to the ground.
Mar 14:34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Mar 14:35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
Luke 18:11 The Pharisee STOOD and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee...
18:13 And the publican, STANDING afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
The overall posture of JESUS can be deduced consistently from His prayer's life before the event at Gethsemane.
He likely knelt down, fell on His face upon the ground and then looked up to Heaven to say the prayer.
The conclusion drawn from the posture of JESUS' example in prayer is that He never face the direction of Ka'aba when He prayed to His Father in Heaven. The early Muslims prayed in the direction of Jerusalem before diverting to Mecca.
This shows that the Arabs during the pre-Islamic period, are facing the "idol of allah". The Ka'aba, an image made of stones and marbles cut by hands of men and the Black Stone embedded in the southeastern corner of the Ka'aba has the root of paganism.
LORD JESUS never kiss the Black Stone, nor circumambulate the Ka'aba. He never pray facing the direction of the Ka'aba. All prophets before JESUS and PAUL did not bow down towards the Kaaba, it was Muhammad alone who practised kissing the Black Stone and prayed towards this idol.
There are 4 instances that LORD JESUS looked up to Heaven and prayed or talked to His Father (Mat 14:19, Mark 7:34, Jn 17:1 & Jn 11:41). Only 1 instance of LORD JESUS fell on His Face (Mat 26:39) and 1 instance of He knelt down to pray earnestly (Luke 22:41-44) .
As a matter of fact, not one of the 99 names of Allah mean "the Father". Therefore it shall conclude that Allah is not the Father of Jesus and not the God of the Christians. The Ka'aba is the bigger idol than the 360 idols that were destroyed by Muhammad together with chief god of the Quraysh, the Hubal.
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On the Face Before God
Num 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces. And the glory of Jehovah appeared to them.
Mat 26:39 And He went a little further and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.
Rev 1:17 And when I (John) saw Him (JESUS), I fell (prostrate) at His feet as dead. And He laid His right hand upon me, saying to me, "Do not fear, I am the First and the Last (i.e. the Alpha & the Omega)
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY."
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There is an evidence that Ishmaelites abandoned YHVH, the God of Abraham and worshipped the God of Baal or Allah about 1,000 BC based on the Psalms 83:1-8 as Ishmaelites and Hagarites attempted to destroy the convenant people of Israel from the face of the earth!
Psa 83:1 (A Song. A Psalm of Asaph.) Keep not silence, O God; do not be speechless, and be not still, O God.
Psa 83:2 For lo, Your enemies roar; and those who hate You have lifted up their head.
Psa 83:3 They take shrewd counsel against Your people, and plot against Your hidden ones.
Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, so that the name Israel may be remembered no more.
Psa 83:5 For with one heart they have plotted together; they have made a covenant against You--
Psa 83:6 the tents of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarites;
Psa 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the people of Tyre;
Psa 83:8 and Assyria has joined with them; they have helped the sons of Lot. Selah.
Allah in the Quran is not the same God of the Hebrews and of the Christians. Luke 9:50 And JESUS said to him, "Do not prevent him, FOR HE WHO IS NOT AGAINST US IS FOR US." As Mecaans claimed to be descendants of Ishmaelites, it is established that their Allah is against YHVH, FATHER of JESUS.
Exo 3:15 And God said to Moses again, You shall say this to the sons of Israel, YHVH the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My Name forever, and this is My Title from generation to generation.
Islam (The Kabaa and Chronology)
1. The Ka'aba and the Black Stone: "You shall make no idols to yourselves; you shall not set up for yourselves graven images, or A MEMORIAL PILLAR. And you shall not set up ANY IMAGE OF STONE in your land in order to BOW DOWN to it. For I am Jehovah your God." Leviticus 26:1 MKJV
Obviously a contradiction between Allah exists here
and the Yehovah of the Bible. If God prohibits the
worship of any image of stone- the Ka'aba is made of granite stone from Mecca and marble, how is possible that the same God allows the Muslims to worship the Ka'aba and the meteorite?
Therefore one concludes that Allah is not the God of the Bible.
2. Abraham, the first Jew born between 2000 and 1500 years before the common era. Mohammad claims to have been visited by angel Gabriel in 610 CE, at least 2100 years after Abraham died.
The claims that Abraham was a Muslim and he built the Ka'aba are ridiculous. Abraham was, of course, the Hebrew. If he had built the house as claimed, it must have been a synagogue and not a small cubical stone structure around 9m x 13m x 12.04m!
If Abraham was a Muslim and Jesus was a Muslim as Muslims claimed, which makes no sense to me as both of them are Hebrews. Jesus would have teach his people to pray in the direction of Ka'aba but one can see that Jesus prayed with his eyes lifted to Heaven and not to Ka'aba.
3. Mohammed got his facts confused... for example in Sura 28:38 of the Quran, it states that Pharoah (from Exodus)
asks Haman (from the book of Esther) to erect the
Tower of Babel (from Genesis), thereby mixing up
characters who lived thousands of years apart. No
wonder the Jews of his time were not very impressed
with him, and refused to accept him as a prophet.
And Pharaoh said, 'O ye chiefs! I do not know any
god for you except me; then set fire, O Haman! take some
clay and make for me a tower, haply I may mount up to
the God of Moses; for, verily, I think he is of those
who lie!'
The Quran tells us that Mohammad drove the other idols
away; he made one God now the only god and he was its
messenger. He kept the Kaaba as a holy, sacred place
and confirmed that the black stone had the power to
take away man's sins.
Allah commanded Abraham to proclaim to the mankind or every believer to make a pilgrimage to the Kaaba stone at least once in his lifetime. (Sura 22:26-37) But no Old Testament's prophets ever had a pilgrimage to the Ka'aba and kissed its Black Stone.
BEFORE Muhammad WAS BORN, IN THE NAME OF ALLAH:
1) running 7 times around the House of the moon god Hubal called the Kaabah.
2) stones were thrown at the devil.
3) a crescent was a key religious symbol.
4) praying toward the Black Stone in Mecca five times a day.
5) kissing the Black Stone.
6) killing an animal in sacrifice to the moon god.
7) fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon.
But essentially "allah" is NOT the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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22:26 (P) And (remember) when We prepared for Abraham the place of the (holy) House, saying: Ascribe thou no thing as partner unto Me, and purify My House for those who Make the Round (thereof) and those who stand and those who bow and make prostration.
22:27 (P) And proclaim unto mankind the pilgrimage. They will come unto thee on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every deep ravine,
22:28
Pickthal
That they may witness things that are of benefit to them, and mention the name of Allah on appointed days over the beast of cattle that He hath bestowed upon them. Then eat thereof and feed therewith the poor unfortunate.
22:29
Pickthal
Then let them make an end of their unkemptness and pay their vows and go around the ancient House.
22:30
Pickthal
That (is the command). And whoso magnifieth the sacred things of Allah, it will be well for him in the sight of his Lord. The cattle are lawful unto you save that which hath been told you. So shun the filth of idols, and shun lying speech,
22:31 Pickthal
Turning unto Allah (only), not ascribing partners unto Him; for whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, it is as if he had fallen from the sky and the birds had snatched him or the wind had blown him to a far-off place.
22:32 Pickthal
That (is the command). And whoso magnifieth the offerings consecrated to Allah, it surely is from devotion of the hearts,
22:33
Pickthal
Therein are benefits for you for an appointed term; and afterward they are brought for sacrifice unto the ancient House.
22:34
Pickthal
And for every nation have We appointed a ritual, that they may mention the name of Allah over the beast of cattle that He hath given them for food; and your God is One God, therefor surrender unto Him. And give good tidings (O Muhammad) to the humble,
22:35
Pickthal
Whose hearts fear when Allah is mentioned, and the patient of whatever may befall them, and those who establish worship and who spend of that We have bestowed on them.
22:36
Pickthal
And the camels! We have appointed them among the ceremonies of Allah. Therein ye have much good. So mention the name of Allah over them when they are drawn up in lines. Then when their flanks fall (dead), eat thereof and feed the beggar and the suppliant. Thus have We made them subject unto you, that haply ye may give thanks.
22:37
Pickthal
Their flesh and their food reach not Allah, but the devotion from you reacheth Him. Thus have We made them subject unto you that ye may magnify Allah that He hath guided you. And give good tidings (O Muhammad) to the good.
Surah 3:96
Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Becca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;
LORD JESUS fell on His face at the Garden of Gethsemane to pray in agony.
MUSLIMS bow on their heads to the ground to pray in gladness!
Mat 26:37 And He (JESUS) took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
Mat 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
Mat 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Examining the idiom "fell on his face" is his face is flat on the ground and not head bows to the floor. When you fell on your face, your lips are touching the floor and not the forehead touches the floor. These are different postures altogether. LORD JESUS also knelt down to pray in one of the 3 times of prayers at Gethsemane.
Luke 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and Kneeled Down, and prayed,
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Luke 22:43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
When Lord JESUS prayed in that posture, He shed drops of blood in His sweat. Do Muslims imitating Jesus' posture to fell on the face to pray in agony or not??? If not, then the normal way of prayer used by LORD JESUS is looking up to the Heaven and not felling on his face.
Muslims have not followed the doctrines and prayer life-style of LORD JESUS at all except greetings of peace!
Is Ishmael truly a prophet of God and the son of Hagar?
Surah 19:54 (P)
And make mention in the Scripture of ISHMAEL. Lo! he was a keeper of his promise, and he was a messenger (of Allah), a prophet.
I wonder where is the Scripture of ISHMAEL today??? This verse must be able to be proved true. If not, then it is a false revelation.
Surah 4:163 (P)
Lo! We inspire thee as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and ISHMAEL and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as We imparted unto David the Psalms
Surah 2:136 (P)
Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and ISHMAEL, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.
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Objective: To prove conclusive that Quran is a false Book because Surah 19:54 has no truth in it by evidence deduced from the oldest book of Genesis in the Book of Hebrew Tanaakh. The Book of Genesis has lasted for over 4,000 years older than Quran and Hadith.
Surah 19:54 (P) And make mention in the Scripture of ISHMAEL. Lo! he was a keeper of his promise, and he was a messenger (of Allah), a prophet.
But the Book of Genesis says Ishmael was an archer and not a Prophet.
After Isaac was born and weaned ie. about 3 years old, Sarah saw Ishmael was mocking Isaac. Sarah pleaded with Abraham to cast Hagar out, and the following morning she was given bread, a bottle of water and her son. She then wandered into the wasteland of Beer-Sheba, which is in southern Canaan [Gen 21:8-20].
Muslims' claim that Ishmael and Hagar went to Mecca (aka Paran) is utterly illogical as her mother being an Egyptian has inclination to return to Egypt than wandered into the Arabian Desert which takes at least 26 days to reach Mecca.
Furthermore the food ration was sufficient for 1 day's journey and no money was given by Abraham. Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread and a bottle of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder.
The wilderness of Paran is located at southern Israel on the way to Egypt. Gen 21:21 He lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
In these passages, God addresses Abraham and calls Hagar the 'maidservant' ['amah' not 'wife' as in Genesis 16:3; compare the Latin Vulgate where in Genesis 21:8-12 'ancilla' is 'maidservant' or 'female slave' ]. Hagar had lost any status she may have earlier enjoyed, so her status as a wife can be questioned and that Ishmael became the son of the slave woman and no longer called the son of Abraham.
Gen 16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife (Hebrew "ishshah") took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife (Hebrew "ishshah")
Abraham was very grieved because he always thought that Ishmael was the first son. But God told him to listen to Sarah and cast out both Hagar and Ishmael.
Gen 21:11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, "Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Notes: God approved for Hagar and Ishmael to be cast out of Abraham's family. When they were cast out by Abraham upon the plead by Sarah, the legal status of Hagar as wife become slavewoman and Ishmael become the son of Hagar and not of the son of Abraham BECAUSE "for in Isaac shall thy seed be called."
Gen 21:13 (God said) "And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed."
NOTES: Immediately God address Ishmael as "the son of the slavewoman" (Gen 21:13) and not as the son of Abraham. Who change this status of Ishmael??? It is not Abraham nor Sarah. It was God Himself who call Ishmael as "the son of the bondwoman"!!!
How far can Hagar and Ishmael go on foot when Abraham did not give a camel for them to ride on? They merely wandered in the wilderness of Paran in southern Israel ON FOOT!!!!
Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on HER shoulder, and the child, and SENT HER AWAY: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba.
Abraham did not escort Hagar who lost her status as the legal wife of Abraham to Mecca. Hagar merely wandered in the wilderness of Paran desert and not in Saudi Arabia.
God addressed to Hagar and did not speak to Ishmael eventhough he was about 16 years olf. as compared to the boy Samuel, God already spoke to the boy.
Gen 21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Gen 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.
God is love, He provides for those whom He loved.
Gen 21:19 And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink.
Ishmael became an archer and not a prophet???
Gen 21:20 And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.
Gen 21:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.
Did the angel say Ishmael would be a prophet? NO, he would be a wild man, a hostile boy or man going against every one of his own descendants.
Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
So where is the proof from the oldest book in the Bible that Ishmael is a prophet???
And make mention in the Scripture of ISHMAEL. Lo! he was a keeper of his promise, and he was a messenger (of Allah), a prophet.
I wonder where is the Scripture of ISHMAEL today??? This verse must be able to be proved true. If not, then it is a false revelation.
Surah 4:163 (P)
Lo! We inspire thee as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and ISHMAEL and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as We imparted unto David the Psalms
Surah 2:136 (P)
Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and ISHMAEL, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.
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Objective: To prove conclusive that Quran is a false Book because Surah 19:54 has no truth in it by evidence deduced from the oldest book of Genesis in the Book of Hebrew Tanaakh. The Book of Genesis has lasted for over 4,000 years older than Quran and Hadith.
Surah 19:54 (P) And make mention in the Scripture of ISHMAEL. Lo! he was a keeper of his promise, and he was a messenger (of Allah), a prophet.
But the Book of Genesis says Ishmael was an archer and not a Prophet.
After Isaac was born and weaned ie. about 3 years old, Sarah saw Ishmael was mocking Isaac. Sarah pleaded with Abraham to cast Hagar out, and the following morning she was given bread, a bottle of water and her son. She then wandered into the wasteland of Beer-Sheba, which is in southern Canaan [Gen 21:8-20].
Muslims' claim that Ishmael and Hagar went to Mecca (aka Paran) is utterly illogical as her mother being an Egyptian has inclination to return to Egypt than wandered into the Arabian Desert which takes at least 26 days to reach Mecca.
Furthermore the food ration was sufficient for 1 day's journey and no money was given by Abraham. Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread and a bottle of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder.
The wilderness of Paran is located at southern Israel on the way to Egypt. Gen 21:21 He lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
In these passages, God addresses Abraham and calls Hagar the 'maidservant' ['amah' not 'wife' as in Genesis 16:3; compare the Latin Vulgate where in Genesis 21:8-12 'ancilla' is 'maidservant' or 'female slave' ]. Hagar had lost any status she may have earlier enjoyed, so her status as a wife can be questioned and that Ishmael became the son of the slave woman and no longer called the son of Abraham.
Gen 16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife (Hebrew "ishshah") took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife (Hebrew "ishshah")
Abraham was very grieved because he always thought that Ishmael was the first son. But God told him to listen to Sarah and cast out both Hagar and Ishmael.
Gen 21:11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, "Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Notes: God approved for Hagar and Ishmael to be cast out of Abraham's family. When they were cast out by Abraham upon the plead by Sarah, the legal status of Hagar as wife become slavewoman and Ishmael become the son of Hagar and not of the son of Abraham BECAUSE "for in Isaac shall thy seed be called."
Gen 21:13 (God said) "And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed."
NOTES: Immediately God address Ishmael as "the son of the slavewoman" (Gen 21:13) and not as the son of Abraham. Who change this status of Ishmael??? It is not Abraham nor Sarah. It was God Himself who call Ishmael as "the son of the bondwoman"!!!
How far can Hagar and Ishmael go on foot when Abraham did not give a camel for them to ride on? They merely wandered in the wilderness of Paran in southern Israel ON FOOT!!!!
Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on HER shoulder, and the child, and SENT HER AWAY: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba.
Abraham did not escort Hagar who lost her status as the legal wife of Abraham to Mecca. Hagar merely wandered in the wilderness of Paran desert and not in Saudi Arabia.
God addressed to Hagar and did not speak to Ishmael eventhough he was about 16 years olf. as compared to the boy Samuel, God already spoke to the boy.
Gen 21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Gen 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.
God is love, He provides for those whom He loved.
Gen 21:19 And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink.
Ishmael became an archer and not a prophet???
Gen 21:20 And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.
Gen 21:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.
Did the angel say Ishmael would be a prophet? NO, he would be a wild man, a hostile boy or man going against every one of his own descendants.
Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
So where is the proof from the oldest book in the Bible that Ishmael is a prophet???
Most Muslims do not believe in the Quran, do you agree?
Most Muslims do not believe in the Quran. Let's me prove my statement based on the passage taken from Surah 19:71-72.
Surah 19:71-72 (Pickthal)
There is Not One of YOU but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.
Surah 19:71-72 (Shakir)
And there is Not One of YOU but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord and We will Deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will Leave the unjust therein on their knees.
Surah 19:71 says explicitly "NONE of YOU...OF YOUR LORD" which refers to Muhammad whose lord is Allah and Muslims are worshippers of Allah - The God. This Muslim God told YOU Muslim that he gives you the decree that none of you shall escape but to come to HELL. Do Muslims believe this decree of Allah??? NO! Muslims argue why Allah send good Muslims to Hell??? I don't know. Muslims should ask Allah personally and not Imams because Imams did not issue the decreed, it was Allah.
Did Allah say Muslims will enter Hell? Of course it did. Read Surah 19:68 which says angel told a Muslim man that "them" - Muslims and jinns will be sent to Hell together.
Quran 19:68 (Pickthal)
And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around Hell.
Note: "Them" in this context refers to human souls or men
Did God ask Adam to eat ALL Kinds of vegetation of the earth???
Genesis 2:16 And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, You may freely eat of every tree in the garden,
Genesis 2:17 but you shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years. And he died.
But Eve made a mistake when she added the words "neither shall ye touch it" to God's Word when Satan tested her knowledge.
Genesis 3:2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden."
Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, "God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die."
Muhammad make the same mistake by plagiarizing in parts from the Hebrew Tanakh, Christian Gospel and from other source of fables of men, to dilute it just as how Eve did and make it into a new book - Quran.
BUT Jehovah God has given the scriptures to the Israelites because they are the chosen race to preserve the Word of God and not from any other races on earth.
John 4:22 (Jesus said) "You worship what you do not know, we know what we worship, for salvation is of the JEWS."
The gospels of Jesus were written by Jewish Apostle Matthew and Apostle John. John Mark was an Israelite. Luke the Disciple was a Gentile who lived at the time of the Apostles of Jesus. Muhammad was a Gentile born 570 years after the birth of Christ. By any known law of God, Muhammad was not a true prophet of God because he is not a Jew whereas Lord Jesus made it very clear "For salvation is of the JEWS" or the salvation comes from the JEWS not from Arabs!!!
Proof of Quran contains blunder of lies which Muslims do not believe in the Quran too. For example Quran says all Muslims will be sent to Hell. Muslims say "No, we can pass over it through Al-Sirat." But remember where did the Quran say about Al-Sirat? Does it not say"None of You" and "of thy Lord" which refer to Muhammad and Muslims in this context as Muhammad is supposed to hear it from the unknown spirit or from his own imagination.
How many Muslims believe in the Quran that Allah has decreed you to enter Hell as told in Surah 19:71??? Most Muslims refused to believe it and twisted the word to mean deliver from it.
These 3 trusted Quran translators say Muslims will come to Hell.
Surah 19:71-72 (Pickthal)
There is Not One of YOU but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.
Surah 19:71-72 (Shakir)
And there is Not One of YOU but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord and We will Deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will Leave the unjust therein on their knees.
Surah 19:71-72 (Sher Ali)
And there is Not One of YOU but will come to it. This is an absolute decree of thy Lord And WE shall save the righteous, and shall leave the wrongdoers therein, on their knees .
Those who disbelieve that Allah will send You to come to Hell, not Hell-fire yet, will be considered as a disbeliever or denying the revelations of Allah. This refusal to believe in the literal words of Allah about his decree for all Muslims to come to Hell is tantamount to denying his revelations.
Surah 19:71 (Yusuf Ali) Not One of You but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.
Yusuf Ali Translation has erred to translate the phrase from "come to it" to "pass over it".
Two translators such as Shakir and Sher Ali, translated as "come to it".
The law of 2 or 3 witnesses to establish the truth of the matter, vindicate that "come to hell" is the original text from . Those who disbelieve this decree of Allah, will come to Hell for eternity told in Surah 3:91.
Surah 3:91 (Pickthal) Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief, the (whole) earth full of gold would NOT BE Accepted from such an one if it were offered as a ransom (for his soul). Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers.
"The forgiveness is not for those who do ill-deeds until, when death attendeth upon one of them, he saith: Lo! I repent now; nor yet for those who die while they are disbelievers. For such We have prepared a painful doom. Surah 4:18 Pickthal
Now the context of Surah 19:66-69 is about the angel speaking to a Muslim man chosen by Allah (19:64), to teach about the resurrection of the dead on the Day of Judgment. He is a Muslim as Allah always speak to his chosen people and never sent to an unbeliever.
The scriptures before the Quran, confirm the manner of God Almighty sent angel to Moses, Jacob, Daniel, Joseph, Mary and others. All of them are holy people, chosen from the Hebrews race.
If those Muslims who disbelieve that Allah shall send them to Hell told in Surah 19:71, then what is the different for disbelievers who do not believe in any words of the prophets appointed by God? To deny God's revelation is basically to disbelieve in what he said.
It is equally dishonorable to twist God's word to mean something which he has never said. If the words of the scripture can be disagreed upon or twisted to mean differently than it is intended for, then it is exactly how the scriptures have been corrupted by doubters.
The contradiction in the Quran is like a double-edged sword which cuts both sides. To believe the fixed decree in Surah 19:71 means every Muslim will come to Hell. On the other hand, to disagree that Allah shall send righteous Muslims to Hell is tantamount to denying or refusing to believe in his revelation.
Muslims who deny that believers would enter Hell on the basis of other Quranic verses are contradicting themselves with the decree of Allah in Surah 19:71.
One can't simply quote Quranic verses to deny that believers will go to Hell and somehow assume that this solves the problem, since the only thing these other passages show is that there is a substantial error on the doctrine in the Quran.
To introduce the fable of men such as Al-Sirat (The Bridge) in Hell for Muslims to cross it, is not only denying that Allah send Muslims to Hell but is an attempt to deceive other Muslims that Allah says such fables which he never uttered in the Quran.
If Allah promised Al-Sirat in Hell, then this must not be omitted nor contradicted with Surah 19:71 in the Quran. The fables of men about Al-Sirat only give false hope which is a "deception", writing by the own hands of men and falsely say that is his revelation.
The context of Surah 19:71 is deduced from Surah 19:68.
Quran 19:68 (Pickthal)
And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around Hell.
Note: "Them" in this context refers to human souls or men
Surah 32:13 Pickthal
And if We had so willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me concerning evildoers took effect: "that I will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together."
It is illogical for Surah 19:71 to mean "pass over" Hell when Surah 19:68 explicitly say men and devils or jinns together shall be sent down to Hell, crouching therein.
Surah 19:72 shall make sense only if the human souls in Hell must be rescued from harm. If the souls are in Paradise, then what is the point to remove far from it?
The doctrine of purgatory in Surah 19:66-72 is based on man's teachings and not from God. Just wonder as why Muslims except Christians, Jews and Sabeans (Surah 2:62), are sent to Hell!!!
Prophets before Lord Jesus speaks by the Holy Spirit within them.
When Lord Jesus Christ came to this world from Heaven, He confirmed the scriptures of all prophets before Him by performing the most numbers of miracles in the whole world.
He performed the miracles chiefly by His spoken words such as raised up the dead, healed the blind, calmed the storm, cleansed the lepers, raised Himself up from His dead on the third day. Only God is the source of life and death. Satan cannot raise up a dead man because the power is in the hands of Lord Jesus!
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Please quote the Law of God which says non-eyewitness can bear witness for the prophets who lived before the life of Muhammad.
The original law of God requires at least 2 or 3 eye-witnesses to bear witness for the truth of the matter. See Deut 19:15 & Matt 18:16
Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sins. At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be made sure.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear you, take one or two more with you, so that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Basically Quran fails the law of 2 or 3 valid eye-witnesses required to confirm the truth of the message within the book. The contradiction between Surah 19:71 every one of you pass over Hell and Surah 32:13 "jinn and mankind together shall fill hell", is irreconcilable.
Unless Surah 32:13 concurs with Surah 19:71 that all mankind or Muslims come to Hell and those who kept from evil shall be rescued from it, there is no real fulfillment of "that I will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together."
Surah 21:100-101 Yusuf Ali
There, sobbing will be their lot, nor will they there hear (aught else). Those for whom the good (record) from us has gone before, will be removed far therefrom.
Surah 21:100-101 Pickthal
Therein wailing is their portion, and therein they hear not. Lo! those unto whom kindness hath gone forth before from Us, they will be far removed from thence.
Many Muslims will be trapped in Hell forever because the Prophet before Muhammad did not preach such doctrine of removal from Hell. Surah 3:81 says the new apostle shall confirm the scriptures of the prophets before him which implies that the new apostle cannot contradict with the prophets before him. Obviously Muhammad has failed he criterion in Surah 3:81 and he is deemed as a false prophet.
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The contradiction in the Quran is like a double-edged sword which cuts both sides. To believe the fixed decree in Surah 19:71 means every Muslim will come to Hell. On the other hand, to disagree that Allah shall send righteous Muslims to Hell is tantamount to denying or refusing to believe in his revelation.
Muslims who deny that believers would enter Hell on the basis of other Quranic verses are contradicting themselves with the decree of Allah in Surah 19:71. One can't simply quote Quranic verses to deny that believers will go to Hell and somehow assume that this solves the problem, since the only thing these other passages show is that there is a substantial error on the doctrine in the Quran.
The law of 2 or 3 witnesses to establish the truth of the matter, vindicate that "come to hell" is the original Arabic text. Those who disbelieve this decree of Allah, will come to Hell for eternity told in Surah 3:91.
Surah 3:91 (Pickthal) Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief, the (whole) earth full of gold would NOT BE Accepted from such an one if it were offered as a ransom (for his soul). Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers.
Surah 19:71-72 (Pickthal)
There is Not One of YOU but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.
Surah 19:71-72 (Shakir)
And there is Not One of YOU but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord and We will Deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will Leave the unjust therein on their knees.
Surah 19:71 says explicitly "NONE of YOU...OF YOUR LORD" which refers to Muhammad whose lord is Allah and Muslims are worshippers of Allah - The God. This Muslim God told YOU Muslim that he gives you the decree that none of you shall escape but to come to HELL. Do Muslims believe this decree of Allah??? NO! Muslims argue why Allah send good Muslims to Hell??? I don't know. Muslims should ask Allah personally and not Imams because Imams did not issue the decreed, it was Allah.
Did Allah say Muslims will enter Hell? Of course it did. Read Surah 19:68 which says angel told a Muslim man that "them" - Muslims and jinns will be sent to Hell together.
Quran 19:68 (Pickthal)
And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around Hell.
Note: "Them" in this context refers to human souls or men
Did God ask Adam to eat ALL Kinds of vegetation of the earth???
Genesis 2:16 And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, You may freely eat of every tree in the garden,
Genesis 2:17 but you shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years. And he died.
But Eve made a mistake when she added the words "neither shall ye touch it" to God's Word when Satan tested her knowledge.
Genesis 3:2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden."
Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, "God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die."
Muhammad make the same mistake by plagiarizing in parts from the Hebrew Tanakh, Christian Gospel and from other source of fables of men, to dilute it just as how Eve did and make it into a new book - Quran.
BUT Jehovah God has given the scriptures to the Israelites because they are the chosen race to preserve the Word of God and not from any other races on earth.
John 4:22 (Jesus said) "You worship what you do not know, we know what we worship, for salvation is of the JEWS."
The gospels of Jesus were written by Jewish Apostle Matthew and Apostle John. John Mark was an Israelite. Luke the Disciple was a Gentile who lived at the time of the Apostles of Jesus. Muhammad was a Gentile born 570 years after the birth of Christ. By any known law of God, Muhammad was not a true prophet of God because he is not a Jew whereas Lord Jesus made it very clear "For salvation is of the JEWS" or the salvation comes from the JEWS not from Arabs!!!
Proof of Quran contains blunder of lies which Muslims do not believe in the Quran too. For example Quran says all Muslims will be sent to Hell. Muslims say "No, we can pass over it through Al-Sirat." But remember where did the Quran say about Al-Sirat? Does it not say"None of You" and "of thy Lord" which refer to Muhammad and Muslims in this context as Muhammad is supposed to hear it from the unknown spirit or from his own imagination.
How many Muslims believe in the Quran that Allah has decreed you to enter Hell as told in Surah 19:71??? Most Muslims refused to believe it and twisted the word to mean deliver from it.
These 3 trusted Quran translators say Muslims will come to Hell.
Surah 19:71-72 (Pickthal)
There is Not One of YOU but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.
Surah 19:71-72 (Shakir)
And there is Not One of YOU but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord and We will Deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will Leave the unjust therein on their knees.
Surah 19:71-72 (Sher Ali)
And there is Not One of YOU but will come to it. This is an absolute decree of thy Lord And WE shall save the righteous, and shall leave the wrongdoers therein, on their knees .
Those who disbelieve that Allah will send You to come to Hell, not Hell-fire yet, will be considered as a disbeliever or denying the revelations of Allah. This refusal to believe in the literal words of Allah about his decree for all Muslims to come to Hell is tantamount to denying his revelations.
Surah 19:71 (Yusuf Ali) Not One of You but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.
Yusuf Ali Translation has erred to translate the phrase from "come to it" to "pass over it".
Two translators such as Shakir and Sher Ali, translated as "come to it".
The law of 2 or 3 witnesses to establish the truth of the matter, vindicate that "come to hell" is the original text from . Those who disbelieve this decree of Allah, will come to Hell for eternity told in Surah 3:91.
Surah 3:91 (Pickthal) Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief, the (whole) earth full of gold would NOT BE Accepted from such an one if it were offered as a ransom (for his soul). Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers.
"The forgiveness is not for those who do ill-deeds until, when death attendeth upon one of them, he saith: Lo! I repent now; nor yet for those who die while they are disbelievers. For such We have prepared a painful doom. Surah 4:18 Pickthal
Now the context of Surah 19:66-69 is about the angel speaking to a Muslim man chosen by Allah (19:64), to teach about the resurrection of the dead on the Day of Judgment. He is a Muslim as Allah always speak to his chosen people and never sent to an unbeliever.
The scriptures before the Quran, confirm the manner of God Almighty sent angel to Moses, Jacob, Daniel, Joseph, Mary and others. All of them are holy people, chosen from the Hebrews race.
If those Muslims who disbelieve that Allah shall send them to Hell told in Surah 19:71, then what is the different for disbelievers who do not believe in any words of the prophets appointed by God? To deny God's revelation is basically to disbelieve in what he said.
It is equally dishonorable to twist God's word to mean something which he has never said. If the words of the scripture can be disagreed upon or twisted to mean differently than it is intended for, then it is exactly how the scriptures have been corrupted by doubters.
The contradiction in the Quran is like a double-edged sword which cuts both sides. To believe the fixed decree in Surah 19:71 means every Muslim will come to Hell. On the other hand, to disagree that Allah shall send righteous Muslims to Hell is tantamount to denying or refusing to believe in his revelation.
Muslims who deny that believers would enter Hell on the basis of other Quranic verses are contradicting themselves with the decree of Allah in Surah 19:71.
One can't simply quote Quranic verses to deny that believers will go to Hell and somehow assume that this solves the problem, since the only thing these other passages show is that there is a substantial error on the doctrine in the Quran.
To introduce the fable of men such as Al-Sirat (The Bridge) in Hell for Muslims to cross it, is not only denying that Allah send Muslims to Hell but is an attempt to deceive other Muslims that Allah says such fables which he never uttered in the Quran.
If Allah promised Al-Sirat in Hell, then this must not be omitted nor contradicted with Surah 19:71 in the Quran. The fables of men about Al-Sirat only give false hope which is a "deception", writing by the own hands of men and falsely say that is his revelation.
The context of Surah 19:71 is deduced from Surah 19:68.
Quran 19:68 (Pickthal)
And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around Hell.
Note: "Them" in this context refers to human souls or men
Surah 32:13 Pickthal
And if We had so willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me concerning evildoers took effect: "that I will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together."
It is illogical for Surah 19:71 to mean "pass over" Hell when Surah 19:68 explicitly say men and devils or jinns together shall be sent down to Hell, crouching therein.
Surah 19:72 shall make sense only if the human souls in Hell must be rescued from harm. If the souls are in Paradise, then what is the point to remove far from it?
The doctrine of purgatory in Surah 19:66-72 is based on man's teachings and not from God. Just wonder as why Muslims except Christians, Jews and Sabeans (Surah 2:62), are sent to Hell!!!
Prophets before Lord Jesus speaks by the Holy Spirit within them.
When Lord Jesus Christ came to this world from Heaven, He confirmed the scriptures of all prophets before Him by performing the most numbers of miracles in the whole world.
He performed the miracles chiefly by His spoken words such as raised up the dead, healed the blind, calmed the storm, cleansed the lepers, raised Himself up from His dead on the third day. Only God is the source of life and death. Satan cannot raise up a dead man because the power is in the hands of Lord Jesus!
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Please quote the Law of God which says non-eyewitness can bear witness for the prophets who lived before the life of Muhammad.
The original law of God requires at least 2 or 3 eye-witnesses to bear witness for the truth of the matter. See Deut 19:15 & Matt 18:16
Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sins. At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be made sure.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear you, take one or two more with you, so that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Basically Quran fails the law of 2 or 3 valid eye-witnesses required to confirm the truth of the message within the book. The contradiction between Surah 19:71 every one of you pass over Hell and Surah 32:13 "jinn and mankind together shall fill hell", is irreconcilable.
Unless Surah 32:13 concurs with Surah 19:71 that all mankind or Muslims come to Hell and those who kept from evil shall be rescued from it, there is no real fulfillment of "that I will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together."
Surah 21:100-101 Yusuf Ali
There, sobbing will be their lot, nor will they there hear (aught else). Those for whom the good (record) from us has gone before, will be removed far therefrom.
Surah 21:100-101 Pickthal
Therein wailing is their portion, and therein they hear not. Lo! those unto whom kindness hath gone forth before from Us, they will be far removed from thence.
Many Muslims will be trapped in Hell forever because the Prophet before Muhammad did not preach such doctrine of removal from Hell. Surah 3:81 says the new apostle shall confirm the scriptures of the prophets before him which implies that the new apostle cannot contradict with the prophets before him. Obviously Muhammad has failed he criterion in Surah 3:81 and he is deemed as a false prophet.
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The contradiction in the Quran is like a double-edged sword which cuts both sides. To believe the fixed decree in Surah 19:71 means every Muslim will come to Hell. On the other hand, to disagree that Allah shall send righteous Muslims to Hell is tantamount to denying or refusing to believe in his revelation.
Muslims who deny that believers would enter Hell on the basis of other Quranic verses are contradicting themselves with the decree of Allah in Surah 19:71. One can't simply quote Quranic verses to deny that believers will go to Hell and somehow assume that this solves the problem, since the only thing these other passages show is that there is a substantial error on the doctrine in the Quran.
The law of 2 or 3 witnesses to establish the truth of the matter, vindicate that "come to hell" is the original Arabic text. Those who disbelieve this decree of Allah, will come to Hell for eternity told in Surah 3:91.
Surah 3:91 (Pickthal) Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief, the (whole) earth full of gold would NOT BE Accepted from such an one if it were offered as a ransom (for his soul). Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers.
A Muslim asked: Why did God die on the Cross when he is the one who punishes the sins?
God Almighty has His own prerogative to devise His divine plan and pass His divine Law which mankind cannot question Him as the Almighty. He knows what is best to carry out His will.
Based on what God revealed to mankind in the Holy Bible, this is the account which has been made known:-
God sent His own Son JESUS because the first man ADAM had failed the Test by SATAN. His Son was commissioned to wrestle from the SATAN all areas which were "captured" from man. Sins are the consequence of Adam's failure to obey GOD, not to fight sins but to fight against SATAN.
If GOD did not send JESUS to fight against SATAN - the chief agent of sin to enter the World, then who will destroy the works of SATAN???
God is a Righteous GOD and He will not destroy SATAN without principle and follow His own Laws. His Law says the penalty of sin is death. SATAN knew the law and it means ADAM and EVE have to die because of their sins. Both of them died and their bodies returned to the dust of the ground. How about their souls which will not die unless GOD destroy them in Hell?
Now someone who is sinless or without sin can destroy SATAN, the master of sins. You cannot use sinful man to atone the sins of people. The only solution is to use the Blood of the sinless Man to destroy the works of SATAN. So GOD have to become a Man and the mission is accomplished by HIS SON JESUS.
If GOD change His Law or pardon Adam and mankind for their sins, the ransom must be paid by someone. You know about Blood-money for those who are intentionally killed by another man. Why the Blood-money??? The principle of GOD is the same. Blood-money have to be offered. So whose Blood-money will fulfill the law. None except LORD JESUS' Blood who is sinless.
God has provided sacrifice for Adam and Eve when they sinned against Him in the Garden of Eden.
God has also provided sacrifice when Abraham was about to sacrifice His own son (Which sons is not the issue here).
God has sent His Son JESUS as a sacrifice for His People. His People are the Jews and all those who accept Him as Lord and Saviour.
GOD is a Judge of Justice. He have to answer to SATAN if He did not obey His own laws. SATAN will scorn at GOD for being a liar if HE simply pardon without keeping His own words. So how could GOD punishes the sins based on His law and pardon the sins when His own law requires the shedding of Blood for remission of sins?
Heb 9:21 Moreover He sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission (of sins).
Mat 26:28 (JESUS said) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
If you were GOD, then answer it in the best way which shows justice and truth to his own laws.
Based on what God revealed to mankind in the Holy Bible, this is the account which has been made known:-
God sent His own Son JESUS because the first man ADAM had failed the Test by SATAN. His Son was commissioned to wrestle from the SATAN all areas which were "captured" from man. Sins are the consequence of Adam's failure to obey GOD, not to fight sins but to fight against SATAN.
If GOD did not send JESUS to fight against SATAN - the chief agent of sin to enter the World, then who will destroy the works of SATAN???
God is a Righteous GOD and He will not destroy SATAN without principle and follow His own Laws. His Law says the penalty of sin is death. SATAN knew the law and it means ADAM and EVE have to die because of their sins. Both of them died and their bodies returned to the dust of the ground. How about their souls which will not die unless GOD destroy them in Hell?
Now someone who is sinless or without sin can destroy SATAN, the master of sins. You cannot use sinful man to atone the sins of people. The only solution is to use the Blood of the sinless Man to destroy the works of SATAN. So GOD have to become a Man and the mission is accomplished by HIS SON JESUS.
If GOD change His Law or pardon Adam and mankind for their sins, the ransom must be paid by someone. You know about Blood-money for those who are intentionally killed by another man. Why the Blood-money??? The principle of GOD is the same. Blood-money have to be offered. So whose Blood-money will fulfill the law. None except LORD JESUS' Blood who is sinless.
God has provided sacrifice for Adam and Eve when they sinned against Him in the Garden of Eden.
God has also provided sacrifice when Abraham was about to sacrifice His own son (Which sons is not the issue here).
God has sent His Son JESUS as a sacrifice for His People. His People are the Jews and all those who accept Him as Lord and Saviour.
GOD is a Judge of Justice. He have to answer to SATAN if He did not obey His own laws. SATAN will scorn at GOD for being a liar if HE simply pardon without keeping His own words. So how could GOD punishes the sins based on His law and pardon the sins when His own law requires the shedding of Blood for remission of sins?
Heb 9:21 Moreover He sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission (of sins).
Mat 26:28 (JESUS said) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
If you were GOD, then answer it in the best way which shows justice and truth to his own laws.
Where is the OT Prophecy of JESUS RESURRECTION on the Third Day?
XXX TDNC
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Dear Positron66,
In Psalm 16:10 where did it mention " JESUS RESSURECTION " on the Third Day ?
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Can you interpret the prophecy of Lord Jesus??? Who are you to interpret the words of Lord Jesus??? Lord Jesus said "All things that the Father hath are mine" (John 16:15) which means all the words of prophecy are from Lord Jesus Christ who speaks by the Holy Spirit through the holy prophet.
Learn from Lord Jesus as how He interpreted the fulfillment of prophecy about Him: "They hated me without a cause." How can one know it is from Psalm that Lord Jesus quoted and it was about Himself???
John 15:25 Jesus said "But that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, 'They hated me without a cause.'
Psalm 69:4 "They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.
Here is the interpretation:-
1) Hate Me without a cause; Me = Lord Jesus Christ
2) More than the hairs of mine head = Numerous disbelievers such as disbelieving High priest, Scribes, Pharisees, Romans soldiers and others in the nation of Israel
3) They that would destroy me = They would kill Lord Jesus
4) Being Mine enemies wrongfully = disbelievers or haters wrongfully or mistaken Lord Jesus as their enemy and not as Messiah
5) I restored that which I took not away = Lord Jesus was resurrected from His dead as His soul went to Hades but He did not take away His Body to Hades. Hence He resurrected His Body on the third day to avert the corruption or decay.
How many days will Lord Jesus be resurrected from His Death? Prophet Jonah had an experience of the belly of Hell and "resurrection" on the third day when he was vomited out to the dry ground.
Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Jonah 2:10 And the LORD spoke unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
Lord Jesus confirmed that Prophet Jonah was a type of his experience that He would fulfill it in 3 days.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Lord Jesus said "all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me" (Luke 24:44). Hence all things or passages about Lord Jesus must be taken COLLECTIVELY and not one or two verses individually BECAUSE He did not say one prophecy only.
Psalm 16:10 "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
Leave My soul = soul of Lord Jesus went to Hades upon death
Holy One = Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 1:24, Luke 1:35, Luke 4:34)
Corruption = Decomposition with foul odor after 3 days (John 11:39)
In order to arrest the decomposition of the body of Lord Jesus, God resurrected Him in 3 Days. Who have confirmed the above interpretation of Scripture is about the resurrection in 3 days?
1) Apostle Peter (Acts 2:14) saying,
Acts 2:27 because You will not leave My soul in Hades, nor will You allow Your holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:31 seeing this beforehand, he spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor would His flesh see corruption,
Acts 2:32 God raised up this Jesus, of which we all are witnesses.
2) Apostle Paul (Acts 13:16) saying,
Acts 13:34 And that He raised Him up from the dead, no more to return to corruption, He spoke in this way: "I will give you the holy promises of David."
Acts 13:35 Therefore he also says in another psalm, "You shall not allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
Act 13:37 But He whom God raised again saw no corruption.
3) Lord Jesus Christ confirmed that the Scriptures about Him have been fulfilled when He appeared to His disciples on the Third Day.
On the third day, Lord Jesus resurrected and appeared to His 2 disciples namely Cleopas (Luke 24:18) and Simon (Luke 24:34) on their way to Emmaus village:
Luke 24:13 And behold, two of them went that SAME DAY to a village called Emmaus, it being about sixty stadia from Jerusalem.
Luke 24:21 But we had trusted that He was the One who was about to redeem Israel. And besides all this, TODAY is the third day since these things were done.
Luke 24:34 And they said, the Lord has indeed risen, and has appeared to Simon.
Luke 24:44 Then He (Jesus) said to them, "These are my words that I SPOKE to you while I WAS still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."
Luke 24:45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,
Luke 24:46 and (Jesus) said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead,
Luke 24:47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem."
Did Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul speak in truth?
1Jn 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.
1Jn 2:21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and know that no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He who denies the Father and the Son (of God) is antichrist.
1Jn 2:23 Everyone who denies the Son (of God) neither has the Father. The one confessing the Son (of God) also has the Father.
As you TDNC deny that Jesus is not the Son of God, you are not interpreting in truth about the words of Lord Jesus Christ in respect of His resurrection in 3 days from Psalm 16:10.
Holy One = Jehovah God and Holy One = Lord Jesus:
Isaiah 43:3 For I am Jehovah your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior
Daniel 8:13 "Then I heard a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that one who spoke..."
There are 2 Holy One in Heaven; Jehovah God and Lord Jesus. As God sent His Son to the world (John 3:16), the Holy One who was in the world was Lord Jesus and no other person was called Holy One in the New Testament.
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In Hosea 6:2 it mentioned " REVIVED " and NOT " RESURRECTED ! "
Revive can be applied for many other purposes as well !
Whereas " RESURRECT " is more SPECIFIC to people who " DIED " and came back to life !
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TDNC, you are WRONG to argue the word "revive" based on translated English version. You have to check the Hebrew word which was translated to "revive" and check the context of the message.
Hosea 6:1 Come and let us return to Jehovah. For He has torn, and He will heal us; He has stricken (killed), and He will bind us up.
Hosea 6:2 After two days He will bring us to life; in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight.
Hosea 6:3 Then we shall know, if we follow on to know Jehovah. His going out is prepared as the morning; and He shall come to us as the rain, as the latter and former rain to the earth. (MKJV)
The Hebrew word "chayah" can mean "restore (to life), revive, give (promise) life"
"Raise us up" comes from Hebrew word "qum" which also means "raise up, lift up (again)"
The true meaning of Hosea 6:2 is revealed in Ephesians 4:8-10.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. (Ephesians 4:8-10)
The "captivity" here is the Old Testament saints. Christ went to Hades after His death, to the abode of the righteous dead of Israel (Luke 16:23). There He preached the gospel (1 Pet. 4:6) so that they could meet their Savior and respond to Him in love. During their lives on earth, they had believed in God and trusted in Him for salvation, but they had not known Jesus, whose coming was still future. They became acquainted with Him, as it were, only after His death and descent into Hades. Yet He did not visit them and then leave them alone. He brought them out of Hades and took them to heaven so that they might dwell in the presence of the Father. Previously, they could not live in the Father's presence because their sins were not covered by the finished work of Christ. Lacking identification with Christ in His perfection, they had no standing before God and no right to dwell in heaven.
This interpretation allows a full explanation of everything stated in Hosea 6:2.
1. It says He would "revive us." They must be revived because they are dead as Hosea 6:1 says He has killed. Hebrew word is "nakah" which means "kill, slay, murder, wound, (give) stripes". It does not mean in a comatose state.
2. It says He would "raise us up." They must be raised because their souls dwell in the earth when they are dead
3. The raising would occur "after two days"—to be precise, "in the third day." Their deliverance from Hades would be accomplished at the resurrection of Christ, on the third day after His burial. Yet they were not immediately taken to heaven. On the Sunday when Jesus rose from the dead, before He ascended to the Father with them, many were seen walking about Jerusalem (Matt. 27:52-53). Apparently, His ascension took place later on Sunday. Early on Sunday morning, Christ would not let Mary touch Him because He had not yet ascended (John 20:17), yet in the evening He let the disciples touch Him (Luke 24:39).
4. The passage says that "we shall live in his sight." After being removed from Hades, they would literally live in the sight or presence of God.
The same interpretation makes sense of verse 3 in Hosea 6.
Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
Hosea 6:3
The first assertion can be translated, "Then shall we know, we who press on to know the Lord." They had always looked for the Redeemer's coming, but now they would know who He is. They would see Him face-to-face.
The expression, "his going forth," refers to His resurrection. The next expression, "prepared as the morning," can be translated, "certain as the morning." Thus, His resurrection would be as certain as the morning.
The word "morning" has special meaning. Morning is shachar, usually translated "dawn." It occurs one other time in Hosea.
So shall Bethel do unto you because of your great wickedness: in a morning shall the king of Israel utterly be cut off. Hosea 10:15
The resurrection was certainly to occur at dawn before the sun rises.
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Hosea 6:3 "...He shall come to us as the rain, as the latter and former rain to the earth."
"Rain" is symbolic for the Holy Spirit just as water baptism is symbolic for the foreshadow of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
John 1:33 And I (John) did not know Him (Jesus), but He (God) who sent me to baptize with water, that One said to me, Upon whom you shall see the Spirit descending, and remaining upon Him, He (Jesus) is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.
Until today Lord Jesus Christ baptizes all His true followers with His Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit will help believers to proclaum that "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor 12:13) and Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God. (John 20:31)
According to Matthew 2:15, the next verse refers to Christ.
Mat 2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. (Hosea 11:1)
This is the prophecy foretelling that Christ would sojourn for a time in Egypt. So, there can be little doubt that the king of Israel in Hosea 10:15, one verse before, is Christ. His death happens in a morning. The thought here is that Christ is the Light of the world (John 8:12), and His coming would be like a dawning, but in that morning He would die. Thus, when Hosea 6:3 says His going forth is certain as the morning, it means that just as He must come and die, He must also rise again.
According to verse 3, His going forth would take place after He came to Israel like rain. What does this mean? The explanation is given later in the book of Hosea.
Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you. (Hosea 10:12)
In other words, after Christ finished His work of redemption, He would bring righteousness to the dead who died in faith and who dwell in Hades; as a result, they would be accounted worthy to enter the presence of God. Their translation would occur after a period of two days.
Having looked at Hosea 10:12, we can now understand the significance of the well-known prophecy that follows, in Hosea 11:1. This prophecy together with later texts in Hosea convey a message similar to John 3:16. The latter states God's program for the whole world; the former, His program for Israel. In both, the motive is love. In both, God acts by putting His Son in danger. In one, He sends Him from heaven's tranquility into a world that would crucify Him. In the other, He brings Him out of the place of safety, Egypt, to the place where men had conspired to kill Him and where eventually they would succeed. Both Hosea and John reveal that through the Son's victory over death, He would obtain life for us.
I will ransom them from the hand of Sheol; I will redeem them from death: O death, where are your plagues; O Sheol, where is your ruin: repentance is hidden from My eyes.
Hosea 13:14 (11)
The last phrase apparently means that God would have no doubt or regret about doing as He states. God is speaking prophetically about the time when Christ would remove the saints of Israel from Sheol, providing them with eternal life. Both Hosea and John reveal that the life God provides is conditional on repentance or belief.
As we examine chapter 24 of Luke, we twice see Jesus expound upon the Scriptures. Before teaching the apostles in Jerusalem, He told them that "all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me" (Luke 24:44). All through this section, Christ spoke of the Old Testament in its entirety, rather than referring to any specific passage. Thus, there is a contextual precedent, so that when Jesus stated "thus it is written," it would be reasonable to associate this with the whole of the Scriptures pointing to His last days. When Jesus said that it was "necessary for the Christ to suffer," He referred back to something Prophet Isaiah had predicted many years earlier.
"He was despised, and rejected of men; man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and as one from whom men hide their face he was despised; and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed (Isaiah 53:3-5).
Psalm 22:16 For dogs (Romans) have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me: they pierced (crucified) my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psalm 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Prophecies in OT fulfilled in NT
Psalm 22:16; Zech 12:10 - His hands and feet will be pierced and they will weep for the first-born - John 19:23,34,37 - Jesus' hands and feet were pierced and his followers wept for Him, the true first-born Son of Israel.
Psalm 22:17 - they will stare and gloat over Him - Matt. 27:36; Luke 23:35 - the people stood by and stared at Jesus on the cross.
Psalm 22:18 - they will divide His garments among them - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:23 - they divided Jesus' garments among them.
Psalm 22:18 - they will cast lots for His garments - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:24 - they cast lots for Jesus' garments.
Isaiah 53:8-10; Dan. 9:26 - the anointed one shall be cut off and die - Luke 23:46; 24:7; John 19:30 - Jesus the Messiah died.
Isaiah 53:9 - He will be buried in a rich man's tomb - Matt. 27:57-60; Mark 15:42-46; Luke 23:50-53; John 19:38-42 - Jesus was buried in a rich man's tomb (the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea).
Psalm 16:10; Hosea 6:2 - He will be raised to life on the third day - Acts 13:33-35, Matt. 28:6; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:34,46 - Jesus was raised to life on the third day.
Following His suffering and death, He was indeed "to rise from the dead" as can be seen from the prophecy in Psalm 16:8-10: "I have set Jehovah always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: My flesh also shall dwell in safety. For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol; neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption."
Psalm 16:10 "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
Leave My soul = soul of Lord Jesus went to Hades upon death
Holy One = Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 1:24, Luke 1:35, Luke 4:34)
Corruption = Decomposition with foul odor after 3 days (John 11:39)
In order to arrest the decomposition of the body of Lord Jesus, God resurrected Him in 3 Days. The Holy One seeing no corruption, was eminently, remarkably, and literally fulfilled in Lord Jesus, who, though He was crucified and laid in the grave, yet was raised from thence the third day, which was before the usual time that dead bodies corrupt and putrefy; see John 11:39 - foul odor began to release after 3 days.
Summary of Facts: There are 3 witnesses namely Apostle Peter, Apostle Paul and Lord Jesus Christ Himself. Lord Jesus Christ, AFTER His resurrection on the third day saying ""These are My words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled. Thus it is WRITTEN, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead..." Luke 24:44 & 46
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Dear Positron66,
In Psalm 16:10 where did it mention " JESUS RESSURECTION " on the Third Day ?
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Can you interpret the prophecy of Lord Jesus??? Who are you to interpret the words of Lord Jesus??? Lord Jesus said "All things that the Father hath are mine" (John 16:15) which means all the words of prophecy are from Lord Jesus Christ who speaks by the Holy Spirit through the holy prophet.
Learn from Lord Jesus as how He interpreted the fulfillment of prophecy about Him: "They hated me without a cause." How can one know it is from Psalm that Lord Jesus quoted and it was about Himself???
John 15:25 Jesus said "But that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, 'They hated me without a cause.'
Psalm 69:4 "They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.
Here is the interpretation:-
1) Hate Me without a cause; Me = Lord Jesus Christ
2) More than the hairs of mine head = Numerous disbelievers such as disbelieving High priest, Scribes, Pharisees, Romans soldiers and others in the nation of Israel
3) They that would destroy me = They would kill Lord Jesus
4) Being Mine enemies wrongfully = disbelievers or haters wrongfully or mistaken Lord Jesus as their enemy and not as Messiah
5) I restored that which I took not away = Lord Jesus was resurrected from His dead as His soul went to Hades but He did not take away His Body to Hades. Hence He resurrected His Body on the third day to avert the corruption or decay.
How many days will Lord Jesus be resurrected from His Death? Prophet Jonah had an experience of the belly of Hell and "resurrection" on the third day when he was vomited out to the dry ground.
Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Jonah 2:10 And the LORD spoke unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
Lord Jesus confirmed that Prophet Jonah was a type of his experience that He would fulfill it in 3 days.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Lord Jesus said "all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me" (Luke 24:44). Hence all things or passages about Lord Jesus must be taken COLLECTIVELY and not one or two verses individually BECAUSE He did not say one prophecy only.
Psalm 16:10 "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
Leave My soul = soul of Lord Jesus went to Hades upon death
Holy One = Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 1:24, Luke 1:35, Luke 4:34)
Corruption = Decomposition with foul odor after 3 days (John 11:39)
In order to arrest the decomposition of the body of Lord Jesus, God resurrected Him in 3 Days. Who have confirmed the above interpretation of Scripture is about the resurrection in 3 days?
1) Apostle Peter (Acts 2:14) saying,
Acts 2:27 because You will not leave My soul in Hades, nor will You allow Your holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:31 seeing this beforehand, he spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor would His flesh see corruption,
Acts 2:32 God raised up this Jesus, of which we all are witnesses.
2) Apostle Paul (Acts 13:16) saying,
Acts 13:34 And that He raised Him up from the dead, no more to return to corruption, He spoke in this way: "I will give you the holy promises of David."
Acts 13:35 Therefore he also says in another psalm, "You shall not allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
Act 13:37 But He whom God raised again saw no corruption.
3) Lord Jesus Christ confirmed that the Scriptures about Him have been fulfilled when He appeared to His disciples on the Third Day.
On the third day, Lord Jesus resurrected and appeared to His 2 disciples namely Cleopas (Luke 24:18) and Simon (Luke 24:34) on their way to Emmaus village:
Luke 24:13 And behold, two of them went that SAME DAY to a village called Emmaus, it being about sixty stadia from Jerusalem.
Luke 24:21 But we had trusted that He was the One who was about to redeem Israel. And besides all this, TODAY is the third day since these things were done.
Luke 24:34 And they said, the Lord has indeed risen, and has appeared to Simon.
Luke 24:44 Then He (Jesus) said to them, "These are my words that I SPOKE to you while I WAS still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."
Luke 24:45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,
Luke 24:46 and (Jesus) said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead,
Luke 24:47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem."
Did Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul speak in truth?
1Jn 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.
1Jn 2:21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and know that no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He who denies the Father and the Son (of God) is antichrist.
1Jn 2:23 Everyone who denies the Son (of God) neither has the Father. The one confessing the Son (of God) also has the Father.
As you TDNC deny that Jesus is not the Son of God, you are not interpreting in truth about the words of Lord Jesus Christ in respect of His resurrection in 3 days from Psalm 16:10.
Holy One = Jehovah God and Holy One = Lord Jesus:
Isaiah 43:3 For I am Jehovah your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior
Daniel 8:13 "Then I heard a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that one who spoke..."
There are 2 Holy One in Heaven; Jehovah God and Lord Jesus. As God sent His Son to the world (John 3:16), the Holy One who was in the world was Lord Jesus and no other person was called Holy One in the New Testament.
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In Hosea 6:2 it mentioned " REVIVED " and NOT " RESURRECTED ! "
Revive can be applied for many other purposes as well !
Whereas " RESURRECT " is more SPECIFIC to people who " DIED " and came back to life !
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TDNC, you are WRONG to argue the word "revive" based on translated English version. You have to check the Hebrew word which was translated to "revive" and check the context of the message.
Hosea 6:1 Come and let us return to Jehovah. For He has torn, and He will heal us; He has stricken (killed), and He will bind us up.
Hosea 6:2 After two days He will bring us to life; in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight.
Hosea 6:3 Then we shall know, if we follow on to know Jehovah. His going out is prepared as the morning; and He shall come to us as the rain, as the latter and former rain to the earth. (MKJV)
The Hebrew word "chayah" can mean "restore (to life), revive, give (promise) life"
"Raise us up" comes from Hebrew word "qum" which also means "raise up, lift up (again)"
The true meaning of Hosea 6:2 is revealed in Ephesians 4:8-10.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. (Ephesians 4:8-10)
The "captivity" here is the Old Testament saints. Christ went to Hades after His death, to the abode of the righteous dead of Israel (Luke 16:23). There He preached the gospel (1 Pet. 4:6) so that they could meet their Savior and respond to Him in love. During their lives on earth, they had believed in God and trusted in Him for salvation, but they had not known Jesus, whose coming was still future. They became acquainted with Him, as it were, only after His death and descent into Hades. Yet He did not visit them and then leave them alone. He brought them out of Hades and took them to heaven so that they might dwell in the presence of the Father. Previously, they could not live in the Father's presence because their sins were not covered by the finished work of Christ. Lacking identification with Christ in His perfection, they had no standing before God and no right to dwell in heaven.
This interpretation allows a full explanation of everything stated in Hosea 6:2.
1. It says He would "revive us." They must be revived because they are dead as Hosea 6:1 says He has killed. Hebrew word is "nakah" which means "kill, slay, murder, wound, (give) stripes". It does not mean in a comatose state.
2. It says He would "raise us up." They must be raised because their souls dwell in the earth when they are dead
3. The raising would occur "after two days"—to be precise, "in the third day." Their deliverance from Hades would be accomplished at the resurrection of Christ, on the third day after His burial. Yet they were not immediately taken to heaven. On the Sunday when Jesus rose from the dead, before He ascended to the Father with them, many were seen walking about Jerusalem (Matt. 27:52-53). Apparently, His ascension took place later on Sunday. Early on Sunday morning, Christ would not let Mary touch Him because He had not yet ascended (John 20:17), yet in the evening He let the disciples touch Him (Luke 24:39).
4. The passage says that "we shall live in his sight." After being removed from Hades, they would literally live in the sight or presence of God.
The same interpretation makes sense of verse 3 in Hosea 6.
Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
Hosea 6:3
The first assertion can be translated, "Then shall we know, we who press on to know the Lord." They had always looked for the Redeemer's coming, but now they would know who He is. They would see Him face-to-face.
The expression, "his going forth," refers to His resurrection. The next expression, "prepared as the morning," can be translated, "certain as the morning." Thus, His resurrection would be as certain as the morning.
The word "morning" has special meaning. Morning is shachar, usually translated "dawn." It occurs one other time in Hosea.
So shall Bethel do unto you because of your great wickedness: in a morning shall the king of Israel utterly be cut off. Hosea 10:15
The resurrection was certainly to occur at dawn before the sun rises.
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Hosea 6:3 "...He shall come to us as the rain, as the latter and former rain to the earth."
"Rain" is symbolic for the Holy Spirit just as water baptism is symbolic for the foreshadow of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
John 1:33 And I (John) did not know Him (Jesus), but He (God) who sent me to baptize with water, that One said to me, Upon whom you shall see the Spirit descending, and remaining upon Him, He (Jesus) is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.
Until today Lord Jesus Christ baptizes all His true followers with His Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit will help believers to proclaum that "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor 12:13) and Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God. (John 20:31)
According to Matthew 2:15, the next verse refers to Christ.
Mat 2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. (Hosea 11:1)
This is the prophecy foretelling that Christ would sojourn for a time in Egypt. So, there can be little doubt that the king of Israel in Hosea 10:15, one verse before, is Christ. His death happens in a morning. The thought here is that Christ is the Light of the world (John 8:12), and His coming would be like a dawning, but in that morning He would die. Thus, when Hosea 6:3 says His going forth is certain as the morning, it means that just as He must come and die, He must also rise again.
According to verse 3, His going forth would take place after He came to Israel like rain. What does this mean? The explanation is given later in the book of Hosea.
Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you. (Hosea 10:12)
In other words, after Christ finished His work of redemption, He would bring righteousness to the dead who died in faith and who dwell in Hades; as a result, they would be accounted worthy to enter the presence of God. Their translation would occur after a period of two days.
Having looked at Hosea 10:12, we can now understand the significance of the well-known prophecy that follows, in Hosea 11:1. This prophecy together with later texts in Hosea convey a message similar to John 3:16. The latter states God's program for the whole world; the former, His program for Israel. In both, the motive is love. In both, God acts by putting His Son in danger. In one, He sends Him from heaven's tranquility into a world that would crucify Him. In the other, He brings Him out of the place of safety, Egypt, to the place where men had conspired to kill Him and where eventually they would succeed. Both Hosea and John reveal that through the Son's victory over death, He would obtain life for us.
I will ransom them from the hand of Sheol; I will redeem them from death: O death, where are your plagues; O Sheol, where is your ruin: repentance is hidden from My eyes.
Hosea 13:14 (11)
The last phrase apparently means that God would have no doubt or regret about doing as He states. God is speaking prophetically about the time when Christ would remove the saints of Israel from Sheol, providing them with eternal life. Both Hosea and John reveal that the life God provides is conditional on repentance or belief.
As we examine chapter 24 of Luke, we twice see Jesus expound upon the Scriptures. Before teaching the apostles in Jerusalem, He told them that "all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me" (Luke 24:44). All through this section, Christ spoke of the Old Testament in its entirety, rather than referring to any specific passage. Thus, there is a contextual precedent, so that when Jesus stated "thus it is written," it would be reasonable to associate this with the whole of the Scriptures pointing to His last days. When Jesus said that it was "necessary for the Christ to suffer," He referred back to something Prophet Isaiah had predicted many years earlier.
"He was despised, and rejected of men; man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and as one from whom men hide their face he was despised; and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed (Isaiah 53:3-5).
Psalm 22:16 For dogs (Romans) have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me: they pierced (crucified) my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psalm 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Prophecies in OT fulfilled in NT
Psalm 22:16; Zech 12:10 - His hands and feet will be pierced and they will weep for the first-born - John 19:23,34,37 - Jesus' hands and feet were pierced and his followers wept for Him, the true first-born Son of Israel.
Psalm 22:17 - they will stare and gloat over Him - Matt. 27:36; Luke 23:35 - the people stood by and stared at Jesus on the cross.
Psalm 22:18 - they will divide His garments among them - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:23 - they divided Jesus' garments among them.
Psalm 22:18 - they will cast lots for His garments - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:24 - they cast lots for Jesus' garments.
Isaiah 53:8-10; Dan. 9:26 - the anointed one shall be cut off and die - Luke 23:46; 24:7; John 19:30 - Jesus the Messiah died.
Isaiah 53:9 - He will be buried in a rich man's tomb - Matt. 27:57-60; Mark 15:42-46; Luke 23:50-53; John 19:38-42 - Jesus was buried in a rich man's tomb (the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea).
Psalm 16:10; Hosea 6:2 - He will be raised to life on the third day - Acts 13:33-35, Matt. 28:6; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:34,46 - Jesus was raised to life on the third day.
Following His suffering and death, He was indeed "to rise from the dead" as can be seen from the prophecy in Psalm 16:8-10: "I have set Jehovah always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: My flesh also shall dwell in safety. For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol; neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption."
Psalm 16:10 "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
Leave My soul = soul of Lord Jesus went to Hades upon death
Holy One = Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 1:24, Luke 1:35, Luke 4:34)
Corruption = Decomposition with foul odor after 3 days (John 11:39)
In order to arrest the decomposition of the body of Lord Jesus, God resurrected Him in 3 Days. The Holy One seeing no corruption, was eminently, remarkably, and literally fulfilled in Lord Jesus, who, though He was crucified and laid in the grave, yet was raised from thence the third day, which was before the usual time that dead bodies corrupt and putrefy; see John 11:39 - foul odor began to release after 3 days.
Summary of Facts: There are 3 witnesses namely Apostle Peter, Apostle Paul and Lord Jesus Christ Himself. Lord Jesus Christ, AFTER His resurrection on the third day saying ""These are My words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled. Thus it is WRITTEN, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead..." Luke 24:44 & 46
Did JESUS have His own Power to raise the dead?
Greetings of Peace to all in the Name of Lord Jesus Christ.
LEGEND :
>>> TDNC +++ Positron
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+++ 01A). Lord Jesus claims authority to give life to whom He will.
>>> Says who ??
KJV John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING :
Verse continue.as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
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Lord Jesus said:
John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 5:30 has been quoted out of context. Read the full verse of John 5:30 in line with John 10:30
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: As I hear, I judge: and My judgment is just; BECAUSE I seek not mine own Will, but the Will of the Father which hath sent me.
Lord Jesus meant He cannot do thing outside the will of His Father. Whatever His Father do, He shall do likewise.
John 5:30 I CANNOT of the will of myself do any thing; but as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just; for I seek not my will, but the will of Him who sent me. (Etheridge)
Lord Jesus and His Father are one in nature!
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
QUESTION :
Who is the LIAR !...... Jesus or Positron ?
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TDNC is a liar for twisting the words of Lord Jesus.
+++ 02). John 5:21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will." (ESV)
>>> Psalms 146 : 3....." Put not your trust in princes,
" NOR IN THE SON OF MAN, IN WHOM THERE IS NO HELP."
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The context here is the Son of God and not Son of Man.
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
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QUESTION :
Who is the LIAR !....... Jesus or Jesus Ancestor, Adulterer & Murderer King David ?
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TDNC is a liar for distorting the word of God. Misquoting and misinterpretating the word of Lord Jesus.
+++ 03). "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:22-23 ESV)
>>> John 12:47 "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them,
" I DO NOT JUDGE HIM."
For I DID NOT COME TO JUDGE THE WORLD , but to save it.
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Read the context of John 12:47, is it referring to Lord Jesus' first coming or on the Day of Judgment???
John 5:22-23 is about the Day of Judgment whereas John 12:46-47 is about the first coming of Lord Jesus. Muslims are intentionally mixing the 2 events into 1 event.
John 12:46 I AM COME a light into the World, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Then Lord Jesus said "THE SAME" is HIMSELF shall judge him!!!
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I (Jesus) have spoken, THE SAME shall judge him in the last day.
John 12:48 He who rejecteth me, and receiveth not my word, hath that which judgeth him: the Word which I speak, that judgeth him in the last day. (Etheridge)
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QUESTION :
Who is the LIAR !........ Jesus or John the Author ?
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TNDC is a liar as the author nor the speaker lied
+++ 04). Lord JESUS SEEKS FOR THE SAME HONOR AS GIVEN TO HIS FATHER. If His Father is worshipped,
LIKEWISE THE SON SHALL BE WORSHIPPED
as He is given all authority to judge on the Day of Judgment. Failure to honor the Son means failure to honor His Father !
>>> KJV Matt 19 : 16-17
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, GOOD MASTER, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life ?
17 And he said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
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Lord Jesus was seeking the clarification from the man as "Why you called me Good"??? but He did not explicitly say "I am not Good".
John 10:11 Lord Jesus said "I AM the GOOD Shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."
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COMMENT :
If Jesus himself DO NOT APPROVE people of calling him "GOOD " nor does Jesus think himself as "GOOD ",
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Where did Lord Jesus say "Do not call me Good"??? He asked "Why do you called me Good"???
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how then can Positron say "JESUS SEEKS FOR THE SAME HONOR AS GIVEN TO HIS FATHER "
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Read the words of Lord Jesus Christ.
John 5:23 That ALL should honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which hath sent him. (KJV)
John 5:23 that ALL may honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. (ESV)
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QUESTION :
Who is the HYPOCRITE LIAR !.......... Jesus or Positron ?
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TNDC is a confused man and a hypocritical liar.
Did Lord Jesus say whosoever honor the Father has honored the Son of God? No, instead He implied whosoever honored the Son has honored the Father. That is why Christians worshipped Lord Jesus. But Muslims do not obey the words of Lord Jesus at all!
+++ 05). But to honor His Father alone has not satisfied the command to
HONOR THE SON JESUS EQUALLY:
"that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father; whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father... " Jn 5:23
>>> KJV John 13 : 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord;
NEITHER HE THAT IS SENT GREATER THAN HE THAT SENT HIM.
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Read the context of John 13:16 which means Lord Jesus physical presence on earth and not His presence in Heaven.
John 13:16 Amen, amen, I say to you, The servant is not greater than his lord; nor (is) the apostle greater than he who sent him. (Etheridge)
Mat 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
HOWEVER, the context of Lord Jesus' message is not saying about Himself and His Father but between He and His apostles.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
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NIV Matt 15:24. He answered, "I WAS SENT ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel."
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Lord Jesus did not mean He has no power to restore His position in Heaven with His Father.
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
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COMMENT :
In Matthew 19: 16-17, Jesus rejected the notion that he was GOOD !
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Lord Jesus did not reject the notion but merely seeking clarification as to why the man called Him "good"???
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In John 13:16 & Matt 15:24 Jesus said that God is greater than Jesus.
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Your interpretation of the above 2 verses is 100% wrong because Lord Jesus said (John 10:18) "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again."
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QUESTION :
Who is trying to mislead the poor, bewildered & directionless Christians in this Forum .
Jesus or Positron ?
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TDNC is a corrupted mind liar trained by the father of lies.
+++ 06A). Quran 36:13-16 says about 3 messengers sent to a city so as to confirm the truth of the message.
>>> Yusuf Alis Translation Noble Quran 36 :13 17
13 Set forth to them, by way of a parable, the (story of) the Companions of the City. Behold!, there came apostles to it.
14 When We (first) sent to them two apostles, they rejected them: But We strengthened them with a third: they said, "Truly, we have been sent on a mission to you."
15 The (people) said: "Ye are only men like ourselves; and (God) Most Gracious sends no sort of revelation: ye do nothing but lie."
16 They said: "Our Lord doth know that we have been sent on a mission to you:
17 "And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message."
This is a Parable ( story ) where Allah sent 2 messengers to a city on a mission. When the people rejected these two messengers, Allah sent a third messenger to strengthen them ( two messengers).
To the best of my understanding Allah did not say that HE will limit or send ONLY 3 messengers to a city or to a nation.
Yusuf Ali's Translation :
6:48 We send the messengers only as the bearers of good news and as warners. So, whoever believes and corrects (his action and attitude) shall have no fear. Nor shall he ever grieve (or be sorry)!
5:19 Oh you, the people of the book! After a long pause (of about six hundred years) between messengers, there has now come to you Our messenger (Muhammad, SAW) who clarifies matters for you. Lest you should say, No bearer of good news and no warner had ever come to us! The bearer of good news and the warner has indeed come to you now! Allah has the power to do all things.
18:056 We sent the messengers only as bearers of glad tidings, and as warners. But the unbelievers quarrel. They attempt to refute the truth with baseless discussions. They mock My signs and that about which theyre being warned.
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Then who are the eyewitnesses to the events in the OT and NT Bibles???
+++ 06B). How many messengers have been sent to Mecca to convert the pagan Arabs???
>>> To the best of my understanding ONLY ONE, Prophet Muhammed (pbuh)
32:3 Do they say he has made it all up? On the contrary, it is the absolute truth from your Lord! (It is revealed) in order to warn the nation among WHOM NO WARNER HAD COME BEFORE YOU. Perhaps they will find their way.
7:184 Do they not ponder? Their companion, (Muhammad, SAW) does not have an affliction. Rather, he is (truly and) clearly a warner.
27:92 (I have been ordered) to recite the Quran. Anyone who finds his way back, does so far his own good. To the one who goes astray say, I am in fact, just a warner!
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Very well, as there was only one messenger sent to Mecca, then who establish worship at Kaaba Stone??? Who built the Kaaba Cube? Who laid the Black Stone at Kaaba Cube???
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05)." Where in the Gospel did Jesus say His Father is CALLED ALLAH ??? "
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Do you know the difference between "CALLED ALLAH " with " MEANING OF ALLAH ? "
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Allah means "The God". Called "The God" is who???
Jehovah is the Name of the Hebrew God.
Jesus is the Name of the Hebrew Messiah.
Allah is the Muslim God
Muhammad is a Muslim messenger
How could Muslim God be reconciled with the Hebrew God in term of the number of days of creation???
Over 1,500 years B.C., it was written that GOD created Heavens and earth in the beginning (Genesis 1:1). And God took 6 days to enhance the earth to be habitable and created the vegetation, living creatures and human beings (Genesis 1:2-31).
Surah 7:54 [Pickthal]
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX DAYS, then mounted He the
Throne. He covereth the night with the day, which is in haste to follow it, and hath made the sun and the moon and the stars subservient by His command. His verily is all creation and
commandment Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!
Surah 10:3
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX DAYS, then He established
Himself upon the Throne, directing all things. There is no intercessor (with Him) save after His
permission. That is Allah, your Lord, so worship Him. Oh, will ye not remind?
Surah 11:7
And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX DAYS and His Throne was upon the
water that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. Yet if thou (O Muhammad) sayest:
Lo! ye will be raised again after death ! those who disbelieve will surely say : This is naught but
mere magic.
Surah 25:59
Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in SIX DAYS, then He
mounted the Throne. The Beneficent! Ask any one informed concerning Him!
Surah 32:4 [Pickthal]
Allah it is Who created the heavens and the earth, and that which is between them, in SIX DAYS. Then He mounted the throne. Ye have not, beside Him, a protecting friend or mediator. Will ye not then remember?
Surah 2:117 [Pickthal]
The originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: "BE! and it is."
Surah 6:73 [Pickthal]
He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in truth. In that day when He saith: "BE! it is." His word is the truth, and His will be the Sovereignty on the day when the trumpet is blown. Knower of the invisible and the visible, He is the Wise, the Aware.
Is Allah of the Quran the Almighty God? If so, why He cannot made Iblis to obey his order? If "Be and it is" is true, then Surah 20:116 is false. Because Allah said "Be" but "it is" not so for Iblis. Iblis has authority to refuse the command of Allah!
1. Why Allah can fail even once??? Could he fail twice if he had failed once? I guess so. Hahaha... What kind of Allah are you worshipping when he cannot even command Iblis to obey???
2. Why Allah permitted idolatry by commanding angels to worship a created man Adam made from dust or mud of the ground???
Surah 20:116 (Pickthal)
And when We said unto the angels: "Fall prostrate before Adam, they fell prostrate (all) save Iblis; he refused."
3. Let's see if Iblis is more clever than your Allah.
Surah 38:75 [Pickthal]
He said: O Iblis! What hindereth thee from falling prostrate before that which I have created with both My hands ? Art thou too proud or art thou of the high exalted ?
Comments: Allah admitted that he created Adam with his both hands. Hahaha.... What? He created a man and asked angels to worship an idol???
4. Iblis teached Allah a lesson for being so foolish. When Allah failed to command Iblis to submit, he still could not read the mind of Iblis as why he refused. Do you think such a god is Almighty, All-knowing???
Surah 7:12 [Pickthal]
He said: What hindered thee that thou didst not fall prostrate when I bade thee? (Iblis) said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire while him Thou didst create of mud.
Surah 7:11 [Pickthal]
And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: "Fall ye prostrate before Adam!" And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration.
5. Now Allah is proven not almighty as his word failed to make Iblis to bow to Adam. So I doubt very much that these verses are true as he has proved that he failed with Iblis. What do you think as a Muslim?
Surah 2:117 [Pickthal]
The Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Surah 36:82 [Pickthal]
But His command, when He intendeth a thing, is only that He saith unto it: Be! and it is.
Surah 3:47 [Pickthal]
She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me ? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Comments: Are you sure Allah can create JESUS by saying "Be! and it is" when he failed to make Iblis to bow to Adam???
Surah 19:35 [Pickthal]
It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Comments: If Allah does not take himself a son, then who create Adam, a son of God??? Then why JESUS called GOD ALMIGHTY "Abba FATHER"??? Obviously the spirit of Allah is not the Spirit who dwells with JESUS THE SON OF GOD. JESUS did not call "Allah" but "Father".
Questions:
Now, you know that Allah only say "Be and it is" that JESUS came forth from GOD not even made by both hands of Allah unlike he created Adam. So do you think Allah command angels to worship JESUS??? If not, please state your reasons.
LEGEND :
>>> TDNC +++ Positron
@@@ Positron 2nd rebuttal
+++ 01A). Lord Jesus claims authority to give life to whom He will.
>>> Says who ??
KJV John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING :
Verse continue.as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
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Lord Jesus said:
John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
John 5:30 has been quoted out of context. Read the full verse of John 5:30 in line with John 10:30
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: As I hear, I judge: and My judgment is just; BECAUSE I seek not mine own Will, but the Will of the Father which hath sent me.
Lord Jesus meant He cannot do thing outside the will of His Father. Whatever His Father do, He shall do likewise.
John 5:30 I CANNOT of the will of myself do any thing; but as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just; for I seek not my will, but the will of Him who sent me. (Etheridge)
Lord Jesus and His Father are one in nature!
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
QUESTION :
Who is the LIAR !...... Jesus or Positron ?
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TDNC is a liar for twisting the words of Lord Jesus.
+++ 02). John 5:21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will." (ESV)
>>> Psalms 146 : 3....." Put not your trust in princes,
" NOR IN THE SON OF MAN, IN WHOM THERE IS NO HELP."
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The context here is the Son of God and not Son of Man.
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
>>>
QUESTION :
Who is the LIAR !....... Jesus or Jesus Ancestor, Adulterer & Murderer King David ?
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TDNC is a liar for distorting the word of God. Misquoting and misinterpretating the word of Lord Jesus.
+++ 03). "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:22-23 ESV)
>>> John 12:47 "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them,
" I DO NOT JUDGE HIM."
For I DID NOT COME TO JUDGE THE WORLD , but to save it.
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Read the context of John 12:47, is it referring to Lord Jesus' first coming or on the Day of Judgment???
John 5:22-23 is about the Day of Judgment whereas John 12:46-47 is about the first coming of Lord Jesus. Muslims are intentionally mixing the 2 events into 1 event.
John 12:46 I AM COME a light into the World, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Then Lord Jesus said "THE SAME" is HIMSELF shall judge him!!!
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I (Jesus) have spoken, THE SAME shall judge him in the last day.
John 12:48 He who rejecteth me, and receiveth not my word, hath that which judgeth him: the Word which I speak, that judgeth him in the last day. (Etheridge)
>>>
QUESTION :
Who is the LIAR !........ Jesus or John the Author ?
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TNDC is a liar as the author nor the speaker lied
+++ 04). Lord JESUS SEEKS FOR THE SAME HONOR AS GIVEN TO HIS FATHER. If His Father is worshipped,
LIKEWISE THE SON SHALL BE WORSHIPPED
as He is given all authority to judge on the Day of Judgment. Failure to honor the Son means failure to honor His Father !
>>> KJV Matt 19 : 16-17
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, GOOD MASTER, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life ?
17 And he said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
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Lord Jesus was seeking the clarification from the man as "Why you called me Good"??? but He did not explicitly say "I am not Good".
John 10:11 Lord Jesus said "I AM the GOOD Shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."
>>>
COMMENT :
If Jesus himself DO NOT APPROVE people of calling him "GOOD " nor does Jesus think himself as "GOOD ",
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Where did Lord Jesus say "Do not call me Good"??? He asked "Why do you called me Good"???
>>>
how then can Positron say "JESUS SEEKS FOR THE SAME HONOR AS GIVEN TO HIS FATHER "
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Read the words of Lord Jesus Christ.
John 5:23 That ALL should honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which hath sent him. (KJV)
John 5:23 that ALL may honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. (ESV)
>>>
QUESTION :
Who is the HYPOCRITE LIAR !.......... Jesus or Positron ?
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TNDC is a confused man and a hypocritical liar.
Did Lord Jesus say whosoever honor the Father has honored the Son of God? No, instead He implied whosoever honored the Son has honored the Father. That is why Christians worshipped Lord Jesus. But Muslims do not obey the words of Lord Jesus at all!
+++ 05). But to honor His Father alone has not satisfied the command to
HONOR THE SON JESUS EQUALLY:
"that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father; whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father... " Jn 5:23
>>> KJV John 13 : 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord;
NEITHER HE THAT IS SENT GREATER THAN HE THAT SENT HIM.
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Read the context of John 13:16 which means Lord Jesus physical presence on earth and not His presence in Heaven.
John 13:16 Amen, amen, I say to you, The servant is not greater than his lord; nor (is) the apostle greater than he who sent him. (Etheridge)
Mat 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
HOWEVER, the context of Lord Jesus' message is not saying about Himself and His Father but between He and His apostles.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
>>>
NIV Matt 15:24. He answered, "I WAS SENT ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel."
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Lord Jesus did not mean He has no power to restore His position in Heaven with His Father.
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
>>>
COMMENT :
In Matthew 19: 16-17, Jesus rejected the notion that he was GOOD !
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Lord Jesus did not reject the notion but merely seeking clarification as to why the man called Him "good"???
>>>
In John 13:16 & Matt 15:24 Jesus said that God is greater than Jesus.
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Your interpretation of the above 2 verses is 100% wrong because Lord Jesus said (John 10:18) "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again."
>>>
QUESTION :
Who is trying to mislead the poor, bewildered & directionless Christians in this Forum .
Jesus or Positron ?
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TDNC is a corrupted mind liar trained by the father of lies.
+++ 06A). Quran 36:13-16 says about 3 messengers sent to a city so as to confirm the truth of the message.
>>> Yusuf Alis Translation Noble Quran 36 :13 17
13 Set forth to them, by way of a parable, the (story of) the Companions of the City. Behold!, there came apostles to it.
14 When We (first) sent to them two apostles, they rejected them: But We strengthened them with a third: they said, "Truly, we have been sent on a mission to you."
15 The (people) said: "Ye are only men like ourselves; and (God) Most Gracious sends no sort of revelation: ye do nothing but lie."
16 They said: "Our Lord doth know that we have been sent on a mission to you:
17 "And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message."
This is a Parable ( story ) where Allah sent 2 messengers to a city on a mission. When the people rejected these two messengers, Allah sent a third messenger to strengthen them ( two messengers).
To the best of my understanding Allah did not say that HE will limit or send ONLY 3 messengers to a city or to a nation.
Yusuf Ali's Translation :
6:48 We send the messengers only as the bearers of good news and as warners. So, whoever believes and corrects (his action and attitude) shall have no fear. Nor shall he ever grieve (or be sorry)!
5:19 Oh you, the people of the book! After a long pause (of about six hundred years) between messengers, there has now come to you Our messenger (Muhammad, SAW) who clarifies matters for you. Lest you should say, No bearer of good news and no warner had ever come to us! The bearer of good news and the warner has indeed come to you now! Allah has the power to do all things.
18:056 We sent the messengers only as bearers of glad tidings, and as warners. But the unbelievers quarrel. They attempt to refute the truth with baseless discussions. They mock My signs and that about which theyre being warned.
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Then who are the eyewitnesses to the events in the OT and NT Bibles???
+++ 06B). How many messengers have been sent to Mecca to convert the pagan Arabs???
>>> To the best of my understanding ONLY ONE, Prophet Muhammed (pbuh)
32:3 Do they say he has made it all up? On the contrary, it is the absolute truth from your Lord! (It is revealed) in order to warn the nation among WHOM NO WARNER HAD COME BEFORE YOU. Perhaps they will find their way.
7:184 Do they not ponder? Their companion, (Muhammad, SAW) does not have an affliction. Rather, he is (truly and) clearly a warner.
27:92 (I have been ordered) to recite the Quran. Anyone who finds his way back, does so far his own good. To the one who goes astray say, I am in fact, just a warner!
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Very well, as there was only one messenger sent to Mecca, then who establish worship at Kaaba Stone??? Who built the Kaaba Cube? Who laid the Black Stone at Kaaba Cube???
+++
05)." Where in the Gospel did Jesus say His Father is CALLED ALLAH ??? "
>>>
Do you know the difference between "CALLED ALLAH " with " MEANING OF ALLAH ? "
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Allah means "The God". Called "The God" is who???
Jehovah is the Name of the Hebrew God.
Jesus is the Name of the Hebrew Messiah.
Allah is the Muslim God
Muhammad is a Muslim messenger
How could Muslim God be reconciled with the Hebrew God in term of the number of days of creation???
Over 1,500 years B.C., it was written that GOD created Heavens and earth in the beginning (Genesis 1:1). And God took 6 days to enhance the earth to be habitable and created the vegetation, living creatures and human beings (Genesis 1:2-31).
Surah 7:54 [Pickthal]
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX DAYS, then mounted He the
Throne. He covereth the night with the day, which is in haste to follow it, and hath made the sun and the moon and the stars subservient by His command. His verily is all creation and
commandment Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!
Surah 10:3
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX DAYS, then He established
Himself upon the Throne, directing all things. There is no intercessor (with Him) save after His
permission. That is Allah, your Lord, so worship Him. Oh, will ye not remind?
Surah 11:7
And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX DAYS and His Throne was upon the
water that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. Yet if thou (O Muhammad) sayest:
Lo! ye will be raised again after death ! those who disbelieve will surely say : This is naught but
mere magic.
Surah 25:59
Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in SIX DAYS, then He
mounted the Throne. The Beneficent! Ask any one informed concerning Him!
Surah 32:4 [Pickthal]
Allah it is Who created the heavens and the earth, and that which is between them, in SIX DAYS. Then He mounted the throne. Ye have not, beside Him, a protecting friend or mediator. Will ye not then remember?
Surah 2:117 [Pickthal]
The originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: "BE! and it is."
Surah 6:73 [Pickthal]
He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in truth. In that day when He saith: "BE! it is." His word is the truth, and His will be the Sovereignty on the day when the trumpet is blown. Knower of the invisible and the visible, He is the Wise, the Aware.
Is Allah of the Quran the Almighty God? If so, why He cannot made Iblis to obey his order? If "Be and it is" is true, then Surah 20:116 is false. Because Allah said "Be" but "it is" not so for Iblis. Iblis has authority to refuse the command of Allah!
1. Why Allah can fail even once??? Could he fail twice if he had failed once? I guess so. Hahaha... What kind of Allah are you worshipping when he cannot even command Iblis to obey???
2. Why Allah permitted idolatry by commanding angels to worship a created man Adam made from dust or mud of the ground???
Surah 20:116 (Pickthal)
And when We said unto the angels: "Fall prostrate before Adam, they fell prostrate (all) save Iblis; he refused."
3. Let's see if Iblis is more clever than your Allah.
Surah 38:75 [Pickthal]
He said: O Iblis! What hindereth thee from falling prostrate before that which I have created with both My hands ? Art thou too proud or art thou of the high exalted ?
Comments: Allah admitted that he created Adam with his both hands. Hahaha.... What? He created a man and asked angels to worship an idol???
4. Iblis teached Allah a lesson for being so foolish. When Allah failed to command Iblis to submit, he still could not read the mind of Iblis as why he refused. Do you think such a god is Almighty, All-knowing???
Surah 7:12 [Pickthal]
He said: What hindered thee that thou didst not fall prostrate when I bade thee? (Iblis) said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire while him Thou didst create of mud.
Surah 7:11 [Pickthal]
And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: "Fall ye prostrate before Adam!" And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration.
5. Now Allah is proven not almighty as his word failed to make Iblis to bow to Adam. So I doubt very much that these verses are true as he has proved that he failed with Iblis. What do you think as a Muslim?
Surah 2:117 [Pickthal]
The Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Surah 36:82 [Pickthal]
But His command, when He intendeth a thing, is only that He saith unto it: Be! and it is.
Surah 3:47 [Pickthal]
She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me ? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Comments: Are you sure Allah can create JESUS by saying "Be! and it is" when he failed to make Iblis to bow to Adam???
Surah 19:35 [Pickthal]
It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Comments: If Allah does not take himself a son, then who create Adam, a son of God??? Then why JESUS called GOD ALMIGHTY "Abba FATHER"??? Obviously the spirit of Allah is not the Spirit who dwells with JESUS THE SON OF GOD. JESUS did not call "Allah" but "Father".
Questions:
Now, you know that Allah only say "Be and it is" that JESUS came forth from GOD not even made by both hands of Allah unlike he created Adam. So do you think Allah command angels to worship JESUS??? If not, please state your reasons.
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