Thursday, January 27, 2011

Are Muslims superior because of circumcision of the flesh???

WTA, Yahuweh Elohim sent His Son Yahushua to the world for His tidings to be preached and for believers to accept Him as the Savior and Lord. If people reject the gift from Yahuweh Elohim, then why could a person benefit from it? A sinner who prefers to reject the gift and remains a sinner will die as a sinner.

By analogy, Yahuweh Elohim sent you a life boat during great flooding at your town in order to save you. You reject the life boat and got drowned and landed in hell. Whose fault???


WTA, you can reject the word of Yahuweh but he cannot change the Law of Yahuweh that you are already condemned to hell. Refer John 3:18.


Quote from Muslim WTA
QUESTION :
What about those christians who dont believe and dont follow Jesus teachings and commands..... will they go to heaven or hell ?
If heaven, how come ?
If hell, W H Y ?
Unquote

Good question from WTA this time. First of all, understand all the commandments of Yah'shua Messiah first, then pray and ask the Father Yah'weh - "Have I fulfilled the commandments of your Holy Son Yah'shua Messiah?" I believe Yah'weh will send Christians around you to speak to you and the Holy Bible which is the Word of Yah'weh will also guide you in all truth.

There is an explicit commandment about the baptism in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt 28:19) for discipleship of all nations, not for remission of sins.

RNJKV Mat 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach (make disciple) all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
Mat 28:19 Go therefore, disciple all nations, and baptize them in the name (of) the Father, and (of) the Son, and (of) the Spirit of Holiness. (Aramaic - Etheridge)


The explicit command from Yah'shua Messiah as spoken through Apostle Peter by His Holy Spirit is about repentance of sins and baptism in the Name of Yah'shua Messiah for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. A person is not considered a Christian until he or she is baptised in the Name of Yah'shua (Jesus) Messiah by the Holy Spirit administered by Master Yah'shua Messiah.

Acts 2:38 Then Kepha said unto them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the Name of Yahushua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

There is only one exceptional case which Yah'shua Messiah personally performed the spiritual baptism on one of the criminals who was crucified on the Cross at his side, that had accepted Him as his Saviour.
Luke 23:39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be the Messiah, save thyself and us.
Luke 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear Elohim, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
Luke 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
Luke 23:42 And he said unto Yahushua, Rabbi, remember me when thou comest into thy Kingdom.
Luke 23:43 And Yahushua said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in Paradise."


All true Christians have to be baptised in the Name of Yah'shua (Jesus) in order to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Failing which he or she is not truly born again.

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
Mark 1:8 "I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit."
Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many DAYS hence.


Any person who claimed to be a Christian but has not yet been baptised in the Name of Yah'shua Messiah is in danger of Hell-fire for disobeying Mark 16:16.

Any true Christian who has been baptised and yet continue to sin wilfully will be in danger of casting down to Hell-fire for having trodden the Son of Yahu'weh under the foot, and has profaned the Blood of the Covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of Grace.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


Any Christian who has been baptised, tasted the heavenly gift and received the Holy Spirit but later renounced the faith in Yah'shua Messiah as the Lord and Saviour will lose his salvation for eternity because to come back to Yah'shua after falling away will crucify to the Son of YHWH afresh and put him to open disgrace. In other words, "there is no once saved, always saved" as some Christians may have misunderstood the grace of Yah'shua Messiah.

Heb 6:4 But they who have once descended to baptism, and have tasted the gift from heaven, and have received the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5 and have tasted the good word of God, and the power of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 cannot again sin, and a second time be renewed to repentance; or a second time crucify and insult the Son of God. (Murdock)




The Law of Elohim is about circumcision of your heart, not of the flesh.

Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Deu 30:6 "And YHWH thy Elohim will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love YHWH thy Elohim with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live."

Circumcision of the flesh is not even mentioned in the Quran which Muslims are merely following the Law of Moses partially from the Jews. In other words, there is no explicit command from Allah to circumcise the male child but some Muslims religious leaders go beyond the law of Moses to circumcise even the female children!!! Do you call it observant of the Law of Moses???


In Islam, circumcision is mentioned in some man-made Hadith (it is referred as Khitan), but NOT in the Qur'an. Some Fiqh scholars state that circumcision is recommended (Sunnah); others that it is obligatory. While endorsing circumcision for males, Islamic scholars note that it is NOT a requirement for converting to Islam -- Source: Al-Sabbagh, Muhammad Lutfi (1996). Islamic ruling on male and female circumcision. Alexandria: World Health Organization. p. 16.


These quotations from the Hadith prove that Muslims breached the Law of Moses on the age of circumcision for the male child; initially Muhammad could be circumcised at puberty around 9-14 years old and later Muslims changed to 7th day of birth.

Ibn Abbas (r.a.) was asked "How old were you when the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) died?" He replied, "At that time I had been circumcised. At that time people did not circumcise the boys till they attained the age of puberty (Baligh)." (Bukhari)
Abdullah Ibn Jabir (r.a.) and Aisha (r.a.) said: "The Prophet (peace be upon him) performed the Aqiqah of al-Hasan and al-Hussein (the prophets grandsons) and circumcised them on the 7th. Day." (Related in al-Bayhaq & Tabarani)
Imam Nawawi says: "circumcision is recommended to be performed on the seventh day of infancy-the day of Aqiqah (Al-Majmu 1/303)

The Law of Yah'weh God given to Abraham was to circumcise the male child on the 8th day of birth. Circumcision on any other day is still a breach of the Law of YHWH:
Gen 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
Gen 17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
Gen 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

Yah'weh God repeated the law to Moses to circumcise the male child on the 8th day of birth.
Lev 12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

Prophet John the Baptist was circumcised on the 8th day on his birth, not the 7th day!
Luke 1:59 And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father.

The Law of Moses cannot be compromised by any Jews as they have to do it on the 8th day even if it falls on the Sabbath day which they are supposed not to work:

John 7:22 "Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the Sabbath day circumcise a man.
John 7:23 If a man on the Sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the Sabbath day?"


Moses gave the Law in order to preserve the holy nation of Israel in preparation of the coming Messiah. Once Yah'shua Messiah has come, He shall institute a New Covenant by grace and truth to supersede the Old Covenant of Moses, but not to abolish the Law of Moses:-
John 1:17 For the Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Yahushua the Messiah.

The Covenant of Moses was replaced by the New Covenant of Yah'shua "because they continued not in my Covenant, and I regarded them not, saith YHWH." Hebrews 8:9. The New Covenant of Yah'shua is accompanied by water baptism into His Death and Resurrection, then the Holy Spirit of Elohim will come to circumcise the heart of the believer.

Heb 8:5 "Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of Elohim when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he (Yah'shua) is the mediator of a Better Covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith YHWH, when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith YHWH.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith YHWH; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them Elohim, and they shall be to me a people"


There is not a single commandment from Yah'shua Messiah about circumcision of the flesh except the baptism for the discipleship of all nations (Matt 28:19) Yah'shua Himself was circumcised on the 8th day of His birth, not the 7th day!
Luke 2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Yahushua, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.


Muslims who circumcised on the 7th day of birth still break the Law of YHWH Elohim as it was originally decreed to be performed for the children of Abraham and for those purchased with his money. Muslims are not purchased by the money of Abraham but Christians are purchased by the Blood (money) of Yah'shua Messiah the Jews.

Rom 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of YHWH.


All Christians have been circumcised by union with Yah'shua Messiah whose circumcision has been imputed to the Christians by baptism:-
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of the Messiah:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of YHWH, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but the Messiah is all, and in all.

In other words, all Christians have the Jewish blood inside them because the Blood of the Messiah has been imputed into the Body of Gentiles Christians by baptism. As Yah'shua Messiah has fulfilled all the Law of Moses, Christians who are baptised into the Body of Yah'shua are One Spirit with Elohim.

1Cor 6:17 But he that is joined unto YHWH is one spirit.
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of YHWH.


Hear O Mankind, Yah'shua Messiah the Son of Yahu'weh Elohim literally came out from Elohim.

John 3:5 Yahushua answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of YHWH.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be Born Again."


By analogy, that which is born of a dog is dog and that which is born of an ape is ape. He that is born of the Flesh is human being, He that is born of the Spirit is Spiritual Being. He who came out of Elohim is Elohim. Yah'shua(Jesus) spoke plainly, not in metaphors that He came out from Elohim.

RNKJV John 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the TIME cometh, when I shall NO MORE speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
John 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I CAME OUT FROM ELOHIM.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
John 16:29 His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest NO PROVERB."

John 16:15 (Yah'shua said) "All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that He shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."


Non-followers of Yah'shua (Jesus) are already condemned to Hell:
John 3:18 He that believeth on Him (Yah'shua) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the Name (Yahu'shua) of the only begotten Son of Yahu'weh (YHWH).

The eternal condemnation is explicitly mentioned in John 3:18. There is no other way to Heaven!!! Hence Yah'shua Messiah is SUPERIOR than any Prophets on earth!!!

John 14:6 Yahushua saith unto him, "I AM the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me."


Followers of JESUS are called Christians and are SUPERIOR over Muslims:-
Quran 3:55 (Yusuf Ali) " Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of those who blaspheme; I WILL MAKE THOSE WHO FOLLOW THEE SUPERIOR to those who reject Faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute. ..." Note: Allah will punish whosoever dispute that CHRISTIANS are Superior!!!

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