Saturday, December 3, 2011
Muslims accused Christians are praying to a fake jesus god who came out of a vagina
ALL Muslims do it every day - i.e. Praying TOWARDS a Metal Vagina-shaped Black Stone embedded at the side of the Kaaba in Mecca. Muslims call it praying towards the Kaaba for strength and unity but this does not refute the paganism and idolatry of such practices. Abraham never did it! The Jews & Christians do not practise it!
For an example:
[QUOTE] Donster, positron66 and other christians agree and accept christians are praying to a fake jesus god who came out of a vagina ! [END QUOTE]
REFUTED by YAHUSHUA (Jesus)
John 8:23 And he (Yahushua) said unto them, "Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
WHERE did Positron agree with WTA that praying to Yahushua is the commandment of Yahushua???
Christians are taught by Yahushua to pray to His Father in the Name of Yahushua. Yahushua never ask people to pray to Him directly nor it is agreed by Positron any where in this forum.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from Elohim.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
Bear in mind, there is no explicit verse in the Bible that Yahushua came out of Virgin Mary through her vagina. First of all, the conception of Yahushua came by the agent of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary and not through her vagina. Likewise the birth of Yahushua could be similar to cesarean birth by the work of the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of YHWH.
Luke 2:6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
Now for a baby delivered by cesarean birth, is it not called "she brought forth her son"??? Before man knows about Cedarean birth, God knows it first. It is natural to believe Mary gave birth through her vagina but this does not discredit the pre-existence of Yahushua with His Father in Heaven and Yahushua's creation of the whole world by His Power.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHWH, and the Word was YHWH.
John 1:2 The same (Word) was in the beginning with YHWH.
John 1:3 All things were made (created) by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Yahushua was the Creator of the Universe and all things both seen such as mankind and unseen such as angels and spirits.