Monday, June 14, 2010

Where is the OT Prophecy of JESUS RESURRECTION on the Third Day?

+++ Positron

XXX Wrong, wrong wrong confused guy

+++ In the Name of Lord Jesus of Nazareth

Dear Positron66,

In Psalm 16:10 where did it mention " JESUS RESSURECTION " on the Third Day ?


Can you interpret the prophecy of Lord Jesus??? Who are you to interpret the words of Lord Jesus???  Lord Jesus said  "All things that the Father hath are mine" (John 16:15) which means all the words of prophecy are from Lord Jesus Christ who speaks by the Holy Spirit through the holy prophet.

Learn from Lord Jesus as how He interpreted the fulfillment of prophecy about Him: "They hated me without a cause." How can one know it is from Psalm that Lord Jesus quoted and it was about Himself???

John 15:25  Jesus said "But that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, 'They hated me without a cause.'

Psalm 69:4  "They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.

Here is the interpretation:-
1) Hate Me without a cause; Me = Lord Jesus Christ
2) More than the hairs of mine head = Numerous disbelievers such as disbelieving High priest, Scribes, Pharisees, Romans soldiers and others in the nation of Israel
3) They that would destroy me = They would kill Lord Jesus
4) Being Mine enemies wrongfully = disbelievers or haters wrongfully or mistaken Lord Jesus as their enemy and not as Messiah
5) I restored that which I took not away = Lord Jesus was resurrected from His dead as His soul went to Hades but He did not take away His Body to Hades. Hence He resurrected His Body on the third day to avert the corruption or decay.

How many days will Lord Jesus be resurrected from His Death? Prophet Jonah had an experience of the belly of Hell and "resurrection" on the third day when he was vomited out to the dry ground.
Jonah 1:17  Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Jonah 2:2  And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Jonah 2:10  And the LORD spoke unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

Lord Jesus confirmed that Prophet Jonah was a type of his  experience that He would fulfill it in 3 days.
Mat 12:40  For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Lord Jesus said "all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me" (Luke 24:44). Hence all things or passages about Lord Jesus must be taken COLLECTIVELY and not one or two verses individually BECAUSE He did not say one prophecy only.

Psalm 16:10  "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."

Leave My soul = soul of Lord Jesus went to Hades upon death
Holy One = Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 1:24, Luke 1:35, Luke 4:34)
Corruption = Decomposition with foul odor after 3 days (John 11:39)

In order to arrest the decomposition of the body of Lord Jesus, God resurrected Him in 3 Days. Who have confirmed the above interpretation of Scripture is about the resurrection in 3 days?

1) Apostle Peter (Acts 2:14) saying,
Acts 2:27  because You will not leave My soul in Hades, nor will You allow Your holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:31  seeing this beforehand, he spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor would His flesh see corruption,
Acts 2:32  God raised up this Jesus, of which we all are witnesses.

2) Apostle Paul (Acts 13:16) saying,
Acts 13:34  And that He raised Him up from the dead, no more to return to corruption, He spoke in this way: "I will give you the holy promises of David."
Acts 13:35  Therefore he also says in another psalm, "You shall not allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
Act 13:37  But He whom God raised again saw no corruption.

3) Lord Jesus Christ confirmed that the Scriptures about Him have been fulfilled when He appeared to His disciples on the Third Day.

On the third day, Lord Jesus resurrected and appeared to His 2 disciples namely Cleopas (Luke 24:18) and Simon (Luke 24:34) on their way to Emmaus village:
Luke 24:13  And behold, two of them went that SAME DAY to a village called Emmaus, it being about sixty stadia from Jerusalem.
Luke 24:21  But we had trusted that He was the One who was about to redeem Israel. And besides all this, TODAY is the third day since these things were done.

Luke 24:34  And they said, the Lord has indeed risen, and has appeared to Simon.
Luke 24:44  Then He (Jesus) said to them, "These are my words that I SPOKE to you while I WAS still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."
Luke 24:45  Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,
Luke 24:46  and (Jesus) said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead,
Luke 24:47  and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem."

Did Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul speak in truth?
1Jn 2:20  But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.
1Jn 2:21  I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and know that no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He who denies the Father and the Son (of God) is antichrist.
1Jn 2:23  Everyone who denies the Son (of God) neither has the Father. The one confessing the Son (of God) also has the Father.

As you TDNC deny that Jesus is not the Son of God, you are not interpreting in truth about the words of Lord Jesus Christ in respect of His resurrection in 3 days from Psalm 16:10.

Holy One = Jehovah God and Holy One = Lord Jesus:
Isaiah 43:3  For I am Jehovah your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior

Daniel 8:13  "Then I heard a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that one who spoke..."

There are 2 Holy One in Heaven; Jehovah God and Lord Jesus. As God sent His Son to the world (John 3:16), the Holy One who was in the world was Lord Jesus and no other person was called Holy One in the New Testament.

In Hosea 6:2 it mentioned " REVIVED " and NOT " RESURRECTED ! "

Revive can be applied for many other purposes as well !

Whereas " RESURRECT " is more SPECIFIC to people who " DIED " and came back to life !

TDNC, you are WRONG to argue the word "revive" based on translated English version. You have to check the Hebrew word which was translated to "revive" and check the context of the message.

Hosea 6:1  Come and let us return to Jehovah. For He has torn, and He will heal us; He has stricken (killed), and He will bind us up.
Hosea 6:2  After two days He will bring us to life; in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. 
Hosea 6:3  Then we shall know, if we follow on to know Jehovah. His going out is prepared as the morning; and He shall come to us as the rain, as the latter and former rain to the earth. (MKJV)

The Hebrew word "chayah" can mean "restore (to life), revive, give (promise) life"

"Raise us up" comes from Hebrew word "qum" which also means "raise up, lift up (again)"

The true meaning of Hosea 6:2 is revealed in Ephesians 4:8-10.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. (Ephesians 4:8-10)

The "captivity" here is the Old Testament saints. Christ went to Hades after His death, to the abode of the righteous dead of Israel (Luke 16:23). There He preached the gospel (1 Pet. 4:6) so that they could meet their Savior and respond to Him in love. During their lives on earth, they had believed in God and trusted in Him for salvation, but they had not known Jesus, whose coming was still future. They became acquainted with Him, as it were, only after His death and descent into Hades. Yet He did not visit them and then leave them alone. He brought them out of Hades and took them to heaven so that they might dwell in the presence of the Father. Previously, they could not live in the Father's presence because their sins were not covered by the finished work of Christ. Lacking identification with Christ in His perfection, they had no standing before God and no right to dwell in heaven.

This interpretation allows a full explanation of everything stated in Hosea 6:2.
1.    It says He would "revive us." They must be revived because they are dead as Hosea 6:1 says He has killed. Hebrew word is "nakah" which means "kill, slay, murder, wound, (give) stripes". It does not mean in a comatose state.
2.    It says He would "raise us up." They must be raised because their souls dwell in the earth when they are dead
3.    The raising would occur "after two days"—to be precise, "in the third day." Their deliverance from Hades would be accomplished at the resurrection of Christ, on the third day after His burial. Yet they were not immediately taken to heaven. On the Sunday when Jesus rose from the dead, before He ascended to the Father with them, many were seen walking about Jerusalem (Matt. 27:52-53). Apparently, His ascension took place later on Sunday. Early on Sunday morning, Christ would not let Mary touch Him because He had not yet ascended (John 20:17), yet in the evening He let the disciples touch Him (Luke 24:39).
4.    The passage says that "we shall live in his sight." After being removed from Hades, they would literally live in the sight or presence of God.
The same interpretation makes sense of verse 3 in Hosea 6.
Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
Hosea 6:3
The first assertion can be translated, "Then shall we know, we who press on to know the Lord." They had always looked for the Redeemer's coming, but now they would know who He is. They would see Him face-to-face.
The expression, "his going forth," refers to His resurrection. The next expression, "prepared as the morning," can be translated, "certain as the morning." Thus, His resurrection would be as certain as the morning.
The word "morning" has special meaning. Morning is shachar, usually translated "dawn." It occurs one other time in Hosea.
So shall Bethel do unto you because of your great wickedness: in a morning shall the king of Israel utterly be cut off. Hosea 10:15

The resurrection was certainly to occur at dawn before the sun rises.
Mat 28:1  In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.
Mat 28:2  And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

Hosea 6:3 "...He shall come to us as the rain, as the latter and former rain to the earth."

"Rain" is symbolic for the Holy Spirit just as water baptism is symbolic for the foreshadow of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
John 1:33  And I (John) did not know Him (Jesus), but He (God) who sent me to baptize with water, that One said to me, Upon whom you shall see the Spirit descending, and remaining upon Him, He (Jesus) is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.

Until today Lord Jesus Christ baptizes all His true followers with His Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit will help believers to proclaum that "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor 12:13) and Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God. (John 20:31)

According to Matthew 2:15, the next verse refers to Christ.
Mat 2:5  And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. (Hosea 11:1)

This is the prophecy foretelling that Christ would sojourn for a time in Egypt. So, there can be little doubt that the king of Israel in Hosea 10:15, one verse before, is Christ. His death happens in a morning. The thought here is that Christ is the Light of the world (John 8:12), and His coming would be like a dawning, but in that morning He would die. Thus, when Hosea 6:3 says His going forth is certain as the morning, it means that just as He must come and die, He must also rise again.
According to verse 3, His going forth would take place after He came to Israel like rain. What does this mean? The explanation is given later in the book of Hosea.
Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you. (Hosea 10:12)

In other words, after Christ finished His work of redemption, He would bring righteousness to the dead who died in faith and who dwell in Hades; as a result, they would be accounted worthy to enter the presence of God. Their translation would occur after a period of two days.
Having looked at Hosea 10:12, we can now understand the significance of the well-known prophecy that follows, in Hosea 11:1. This prophecy together with later texts in Hosea convey a message similar to John 3:16. The latter states God's program for the whole world; the former, His program for Israel. In both, the motive is love. In both, God acts by putting His Son in danger. In one, He sends Him from heaven's tranquility into a world that would crucify Him. In the other, He brings Him out of the place of safety, Egypt, to the place where men had conspired to kill Him and where eventually they would succeed. Both Hosea and John reveal that through the Son's victory over death, He would obtain life for us.

I will ransom them from the hand of Sheol; I will redeem them from death: O death, where are your plagues; O Sheol, where is your ruin: repentance is hidden from My eyes.
Hosea 13:14 (11)
The last phrase apparently means that God would have no doubt or regret about doing as He states. God is speaking prophetically about the time when Christ would remove the saints of Israel from Sheol, providing them with eternal life. Both Hosea and John reveal that the life God provides is conditional on repentance or belief.

As we examine chapter 24 of Luke, we twice see Jesus expound upon the Scriptures. Before teaching the apostles in Jerusalem, He told them that "all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me" (Luke 24:44). All through this section, Christ spoke of the Old Testament in its entirety, rather than referring to any specific passage. Thus, there is a contextual precedent, so that when Jesus stated "thus it is written," it would be reasonable to associate this with the whole of the Scriptures pointing to His last days. When Jesus said that it was "necessary for the Christ to suffer," He referred back to something Prophet Isaiah had predicted many years earlier.

"He was despised, and rejected of men; man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and as one from whom men hide their face he was despised; and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed (Isaiah 53:3-5).

Psalm 22:16  For dogs (Romans) have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me: they pierced (crucified) my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:17  I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psalm 22:18  They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Prophecies in OT fulfilled in NT

Psalm 22:16; Zech 12:10 - His hands and feet will be pierced and they will weep for the first-born - John 19:23,34,37 - Jesus' hands and feet were pierced and his followers wept for Him, the true first-born Son of Israel.

Psalm 22:17 - they will stare and gloat over Him - Matt. 27:36; Luke 23:35 - the people stood by and stared at Jesus on the cross.

Psalm 22:18 - they will divide His garments among them - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:23 - they divided Jesus' garments among them.
Psalm 22:18 - they will cast lots for His garments - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:24 - they cast lots for Jesus' garments.
Isaiah 53:8-10; Dan. 9:26 - the anointed one shall be cut off and die - Luke 23:46; 24:7; John 19:30 - Jesus the Messiah died.
Isaiah 53:9 - He will be buried in a rich man's tomb - Matt. 27:57-60; Mark 15:42-46; Luke 23:50-53; John 19:38-42 - Jesus was buried in a rich man's tomb (the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea).
Psalm 16:10; Hosea 6:2 - He will be raised to life on the third day - Acts 13:33-35, Matt. 28:6; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:34,46 - Jesus was raised to life on the third day.

Following His suffering and death, He was indeed "to rise from the dead" as can be seen from the prophecy in Psalm 16:8-10: "I have set Jehovah always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: My flesh also shall dwell in safety. For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol; neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption."

Psalm 16:10  "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."

Leave My soul = soul of Lord Jesus went to Hades upon death

Holy One = Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 1:24, Luke 1:35, Luke 4:34)

Corruption = Decomposition with foul odor after 3 days (John 11:39)

In order to arrest the decomposition of the body of Lord Jesus, God resurrected Him in 3 Days. The Holy One seeing no corruption, was eminently, remarkably, and literally fulfilled in Lord Jesus, who, though He was crucified and laid in the grave, yet was raised from thence the third day, which was before the usual time that dead bodies corrupt and putrefy; see John 11:39 - foul odor began to release after 3 days.

Summary of Facts: There are 3 witnesses namely Apostle Peter, Apostle Paul and Lord Jesus Christ Himself. Lord Jesus Christ, AFTER His resurrection on the third day saying ""These are My words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled. Thus it is WRITTEN, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead..." Luke 24:44 & 46

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